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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    is there a scientific basis behind this decision?
    there's no scientific basis

    they just want more people to be able to commute

    nakarating na sa IATF nahihirapan mga tao mag commute dahil sa forced limit on number of passengers

    madami di makarating sa trabaho

    how can the economy recover with all those restrictions?

    ang decision making ngayon ng IATF is based on pressure to open up the economy

    coz nakarating na sa kanila sa kangkongan pupulutin ang Pinas pag patuloy parin ang restrictions

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    nakita na nila gaano kalaki ang damage nagawa ng lockdown

    di na pwede maulit

    now it's learn-to-live-with-the-virus and wait-for-the-vaccine nalang

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    Every day, the statistics about COVID-19 cases and deaths make the front page, and keep repeating the boring message that the Philippines is the “worst” performer in Southeast Asia. Here is how I recommend that the scores be read:

    Medical care in Thailand, the Philippines, and Malaysia is decent; Singapore looks amazing.

    COVID-19’s tracking overload
    By: Mahar Mangahas - *inquirerdotnet
    Philippine Daily Inquirer / 05:05 AM September 12, 2020

    Every day, the statistics about COVID-19 cases and deaths make the front page, and keep repeating the boring message that the Philippines is the “worst” performer in Southeast Asia. Here is how I recommend that the scores be read:

    * Make comparisons with the entire world, not just Southeast Asia. These are official figures, so be wary of numbers from authoritarian countries like Cambodia, China, Russia, and Vietnam.

    * Use figures that are per unit of the population to compare countries of different size. I find worldometers.info the most useful source because cases, deaths, and tests are already given per million of the population (abbreviated here as “/M”).

    As of last Thursday, for the Philippines, the cases were 2,231/M and the deaths were 36/M, cumulated from the start of the pandemic. For the world as a whole, cases were 3,592/M and deaths were 116/M. Since only 3.24 percent of the world’s cases have resulted in death, COVID-19 is NOT a super-deadly disease.

    “Cases” are not equal to “infections” because the latter concept also includes people infected but invisible to the health authorities since untested. In Singapore, the case rate is 9,757/M, very far above the world case rate of 3,592/M, perhaps because Singapore has done 1 test for every 3 people, which is effectively mass testing. To estimate the infection rate efficiently, what I recommend is scientific random testing of the population, which only requires several thousands, not several millions, of tests at a time.

    For our neighbors, the current (9/10/20) case rates per M are: Indonesia 742, Brunei 331, Malaysia 295, Thailand 49, Myanmar 35, Cambodia 16, Vietnam 11.

    * For me, the prime indicator of performance is low fatality. The deaths divided by the cases equals the fatality rate. In the Philippines, this is 1.61 percent, meaning that 98.39 percent of the cases have survived so far, although some cases are still active.

    For Southeast Asia, the current fatality rates are: Indonesia 4.04 percent, Vietnam 3.64 percent, Brunei 2.11 percent, Thailand 1.63 percent, Philippines 1.61 percent, Malaysia 1.36 percent, Myanmar 0.57 percent, Singapore 0.05 percent (no deaths data for Cambodia). This indicates that medical care in Indonesia and Vietnam is below world standards. Medical care in Thailand, the Philippines, and Malaysia is decent; Singapore looks amazing.

    Incidentally, the United States, as of 9/11/20, has a case rate of 19,765/M and a death rate of 589/M, implying a fatality rate of 2.98 percent of the cases—slightly below the world average, and much higher than that of the Philippines.

    The Oxford Stringency Index. The performance of the Philippines in combating the pandemic has been very costly to the Filipino people, as measured by the SWS well-being indicators, due to the extremely stringent government policies.

    The stringency can be analyzed by a very useful index created by the Blavatnik School of Government of the University of Oxford, which assembles the policies on school closing, workplace closing, cancellation of public events, restrictions on gathering size, closing of public transport, stay at home requirements, restrictions on internal movement, and restrictions on international travel. It is called OxCGRT, which stands for Oxford COVID-19 Government Response Tracker.

    The Oxford Stringency Index (OxSI for short), is a number from 0 to 100, available for all countries since January 2020, updated daily. The Philippine OxSI started at 11 on 1/24/20, and rose quickly in February and March until it hit 100 from March 22 to April 30. It subsided to 96 in May, 83 by mid-June, and 81 by late July; it was in the 70s by August, and at 56 by Aug. 24.

    No other country in Southeast Asia ever reached an OxSI of 100. The latest OxSIs and their historical peaks (max) are: Vietnam 74, max 95; Indonesia 60, max 80; Malaysia 57, max 75; Singapore 52, max 85; and Thailand 46, max 75.

    Incidentally, the latest US OxSI is 68 (Aug. 28); its max was at 73 from 3/21 to 6/14/20.


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    #17644
    DOH reports 4,935 cases today, the highest since August 26. Only 1 lab wasn't able to submit data.

    Also, 186 deaths were reported, the highest in a single day as fatalities from July and August were included. 126 of these were previously reported as recovered.




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    Serious question, it seems like everyone who dies from covid na young (below 50) have a bit of extra weight. Those that I have seen on social media or TV parang walang payat that lost the battle? Lalo tuloy ako natakot

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Serious question, it seems like everyone who dies from covid na young (below 50) have a bit of extra weight. Those that I have seen on social media or TV parang walang payat that lost the battle? Lalo tuloy ako natakot

    Being obese carries other sickness like heart disease, diabetes, hypertension etc...



    Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young | Science | AAAS

    Since the pandemic began, dozens of studies have reported that many of the sickest COVID-19 patients have been people with obesity. In recent weeks, that link has come into sharper focus as large new population studies have cemented the association and demonstrated that even people who are merely overweight are at higher risk. For example, in the first metaanalysis of its kind, published on 26 August in Obesity Reviews, an international team of researchers pooled data from scores of peer-reviewed papers capturing 399,000 patients. They found that people with obesity who contracted SARS-CoV-2 were 113% more likely than people of healthy weight to land in the hospital, 74% more likely to be admitted to an ICU, and 48% more likely to die.

    “We didn’t understand early on what a major risk factor obesity was. … It’s not until more recently that we’ve realized the devastating impact of obesity, particularly in younger people,” says Anne Dixon, a physician-scientist who studies obesity and lung disease at the University of Vermont. That “may be one reason for the devastating impact of COVID-19 in the United States, where 40% of adults are obese.”

    People with obesity are more likely than normal-weight people to have other diseases that are independent risk factors for severe COVID-19, including heart disease, lung disease, and diabetes. They are also prone to metabolic syndrome, in which blood sugar levels, fat levels, or both are unhealthy and blood pressure may be high. A recent study from Tulane University of 287 hospitalized COVID-19 patients found that metabolic syndrome itself substantially increased the risks of ICU admission, ventilation, and death.

    The physical pathologies that render people with obesity vulnerable to severe COVID-19 begin with mechanics: Fat in the abdomen pushes up on the diaphragm, causing that large muscle, which lies below the chest cavity, to impinge on the lungs and restrict airflow. This reduced lung volume leads to collapse of airways in the lower lobes of the lungs, where more blood arrives for oxygenation than in the upper lobes. “If you are already starting [with] this mismatch, you are going to get worse faster” from COVID-19, Dixon says.

    Other issues compound these mechanical problems. For starters, the blood of people with obesity has an increased tendency to clot—an especially grave risk during an infection that, when severe, independently peppers the small vessels of the lungs with clots. In healthy people, “the endothelial cells that line the blood vessels are normally saying to the surrounding blood: ‘Don’t clot,’” says Beverley Hunt, a physician-scientist who’s an expert in blood clotting at Guy’s and St. Thomas’ hospitals in London. But “we think that signaling is being changed by COVID,” Hunt says, because the virus injures endothelial cells, which respond to the insult by activating the coagulation system.

    Add obesity to the mix, and the clotting risk shoots up. In COVID-19 patients with obesity, Hunt says, “You’ve got such sticky blood, oh my—the stickiest blood I have ever seen in all my years of practice.”
    Last edited by Monseratto; September 12th, 2020 at 06:33 PM.

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    #17648
    Lahat ba ng namatay have some extra weight? Though some I saw are not morbidly obese naman pero siguro 20 lbs overweight. I'm wondering kung may payat or normal weight below 50 yrs old na namatay from covid

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    If they remove it or caught outside, penalize them heavily...


    Caloocan assures confidentiality of residents wearing ‘quarantine wristbands’ | Inquirer News

    This equipped with a unique QR code. Using the band, an individual could share his/her health status, location and infection risk.

    Such bands were distributed to select Caloocan residents undergoing quarantine and who underwent COVID-19 testing, Hernandez said.

    With the bands the local government can track the whereabouts of those individuals being monitored, Hernandez added.

    “Mamonitor natin closely kung nasaan or ang whereabouts ng ating kababayan dahil ipinagbabawal na ang home quarantine. Dapat nasa facility sila at dapat hindi sila lalabas sa facility,” he said.

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    Myanmar cases are spiking...


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    #17651
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    how can they claim confidentiality,
    when it is so visible to the naked eye kahit hindi naka-gafas??

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    #17652
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    how can they claim confidentiality,
    when it is so visible to the naked eye kahit hindi naka-gafas??
    Yung data connected sa band ang confidential. It has a QR code na naka link sa database kung nasan ang mga data mo, like health status. Hindi naman porket may band daw eh positive na. Kahit yung mga under monitoring or undergo swab test meron.

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    BBC News
    Coronavirus: Oxford University to resume vaccine trial after pause
    12 September 2020

    Trials of a Covid-19 vaccine being developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University will resume after being paused due to a reported side effect in a patient in the UK.

    Coronavirus: Oxford University to resume vaccine trial after pause - BBC News

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    #17654
    ^^^

    itutuloy talaga nila yan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Myanmar cases are spiking...

    Mahirap magpatest sa Myanmar past month. Too few test kits. U need to write pa to barangay why u want to test. Baka dumating na test kits now?

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    Today is Grandparents day... a good reason to go out to tagaytay?

    JUST IN: Sunday Morning scene at Tagaytay-Calamba road.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Today is Grandparents day... a good reason to go out to tagaytay?







    lockdown/quarantine fatigue

    lahat gusto lumabas

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    #17659
    majority talaga noypisss eh sabaw luhtang.

    Kung saan ang traffic doon ang punta.

    mahilig sa buhay singit

    tapos of all places eh tagaytay south super sikip kalsada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Today is Grandparents day... a good reason to go out to tagaytay?






    ... dahil maraming nakabasa na bukas na muli ang tagaytay...?
    'kala koh, bawal ang 60+ year olds...?

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