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    #16401
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    IMHO dapat yung quarantine period included sa paid work days nila. Consequence din naman yun ng work sa covid wards. If they don't get paid for that, I won't wonder any more why we have a shortage of nurses.
    Agree on this one. Part of the work eh, that is the consequence so dapat may compensation. Maaring hindi full amount pero at least half man lang.

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    #16402
    I thought the Chinese will do their phase 3 test here also... muikhang mahina si DU30 sa kanila.


    Indonesia starts phase 3 trial for COVID-19 vaccine, Sinovac reports phase 2 details - CNA

    Indonesia on Tuesday (Aug 11) started a late-stage human trial of a Chinese-made COVID-19 vaccine that will involve as many as 1,620 patients.

    The vaccine candidate, produced by Sinovac Biotech, is among just a few in the world to enter phase 3 clinical trials, or large-scale testing on humans - the last step before regulatory approval.

    The vaccine candidate, known as CoronaVac, is also undergoing a late-stage trial in Brazil, and Sinovac expects to also test it in Bangladesh.

    In Sinovac's mid-stage trial involving 600 participants in China, the rate of fever in patients was relatively lower than other COVID-19 candidates including one from AstraZeneca, the study showed ahead of peer review.

    Mid-stage trials usually test a candidate's safety and ability to trigger an immune response in a relatively small number of people before it enters late-stage tests.

    The study noted that the process to make the vaccines used in the phase 2 trial was more optimised than in phase 1, which produced more immunogens and triggered better immune responses.

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    #16403
    Just the other day, the media was all praises for NZ...


    New Zealand records four new COVID-19 cases and plunges back into lockdown | Daily Mail Online

    New Zealand has plunged back into a strict lockdown after four members of one family tested positive for coronavirus - despite 102 days of zero community transmission.

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    #16404
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    US and Europe will not acknowledge Russia's vaccine as the 1st

    di sila maniniwala coz kulang sa testing

    tsaka di sila papayag naunahan sila
    There has also been allegations of vaccine research hacking by Russia and China.

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    #16405
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    There has also been allegations of vaccine research hacking by Russia and China.
    these are industrial secrets.
    attempts at hacking are a common event.

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    #16406
    The problem I for see with this vaccine that is tested in less than 2 months is it isn't tested to wide array of people. Like seniors, immunocompromised persons, children, pregnant women and people with a particular disease that might get worse with this.

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    #16407
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    The problem I for see with this vaccine that is tested in less than 2 months is it isn't tested to wide array of people. Like seniors, immunocompromised persons, children, pregnant women and people with a particular disease that might get worse with this.

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    "we're desperate."
    we're, as it stands, cutting corners and making short cuts.
    the US FDA even has a word for it: "emergency use authorization".

    fyi.
    the mumps vaccine took four years to develop.
    chickenpox virus was isolated in 1954. the japanese had a local vaccine in the 70s. us fda approved their chickenpox vaccine in 1995.
    a covid vaccine in less than a year is... short of miraculous.
    if it works as advertised.

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    #16408
    "Phase 3 is unnecessary, comrade." - Putin

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    #16409
    Quote Originally Posted by madball View Post
    "Phase 3 is unnecessary, comrade." - Putin
    Mabilis talaga kasi "rush yan".

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    #16410
    Quote Originally Posted by teukie View Post
    Mabilis talaga kasi "rush yan".
    hah!
    i like that!

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    #16411
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    "we're desperate."
    we're, as it stands, cutting corners and making short cuts.
    the US FDA even has a word for it: "emergency use authorization".

    fyi.
    the mumps vaccine took four years to develop.
    chickenpox virus was isolated in 1954. the japanese had a local vaccine in the 70s. us fda approved their chickenpox vaccine in 1995.
    a covid vaccine in less than a year is... short of miraculous.
    if it works as advertised.
    It's futuristic as per trump, aka warp speed... desperate times indeed.

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    #16412
    Peolpe are funny din no?

    Noong walang pang gamot ang covid,:
    “Sana magkaroon na ng vaccine!!! Sana meron na, sana sana!!”

    Then pag may vaccine na,: “ Sige mauna na kayo magpainject, sige kayo na muna, ok lang mauna kayo.”

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    #16413
    Ayos! Kailan kaya schdule ng pagpapa bakuna ni duterte on national TV?


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    #16414
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ayos! Kailan kaya schdule ng pagpapa bakuna ni duterte on national TV?


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    Baka parang jetski lang...never mangyayari. O kaya kung i-televise man, baka tubig lang nasa injection. I'm sure may doubts din yan[emoji16]

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    #16415
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ayos! Kailan kaya schdule ng pagpapa bakuna ni duterte on national TV?


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    eto na may lusot na sila :

    Duterte ready to try Russia vaccine, but he’s not qualified | Inquirer News

    President Rodrigo Duterte boldly declared on Monday night that he would immediately try out the vaccine against the new coronavirus being developed by Russia, but the government’s own requirements for people who would be allowed to take part in the clinical trials disqualify him outright.
    According to the guidelines set by the country’s vaccine expert panel for the conduct here of the Phase 3 clinical trials, priority will be given to people aged 18 to 59 and are at high risk of coronavirus infection. These people include health workers and contacts of COVID-19 patients.

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    #16416
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    Pwede niya overrule yan. Wala naman silang magagawa. Now na!


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    #16417
    We hope that russian vaccine would work especially for people with moderate to critical cases with minimal side effects and no more deaths I think we are heading the right direction towards recovery.

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    #16418
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Pwede niya overrule yan. Wala naman silang magagawa. Now na!


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    Dapat mauna si mayor.

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    #16419
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    Peolpe are funny din no?

    Noong walang pang gamot ang covid,:
    “Sana magkaroon na ng vaccine!!! Sana meron na, sana sana!!”

    Then pag may vaccine na,: “ Sige mauna na kayo magpainject, sige kayo na muna, ok lang mauna kayo.”
    I don't know about you, but when I hoped for a vaccine, I thought of a proven tested one. Hindi ako magvovolunteer maging test subject Would you?

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    #16420
    Duterte is complaining about his salary and apparently supporting his other wife....

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