China Corona Virus Outbreak

[dr. d]

i never saw a post in this thread about avoiding shared toilets (public toilet, office restrooms etc)

puro disinfecting packages mga nababasa ko

pag may virus ang unang gumamit ng toilet at nag flush siya without putting down the lid, ung aerosols generated will float in the air

tapos meron sumunod na gumamit ng toilet...

i guess people didn't think about that

now that's one more thing to worry about hehe

perhaps the designer of the toilet facility, made provision for rapid replacement of the ambient air, so's to remove obnoxious odors from the previous user's... products.
tuloy, the covid virus is removed along with the mal-odors.
is there a policy in the building code, that said public toilets should have exhaust ventilation?

[uls]

have you ever entered a toilet where someone just got out?

kahit nag flush siya alam mo nag ebs siya dahil sa amoy

that's the aerosol you inhaled

[dr. d]

have you ever entered a toilet where someone just got out?

kahit nag flush siya alam mo nag ebs siya dahil sa amoy

that's the aerosol you inhaled

"only if i were desperate."
otherwise, i would wait for a few minutes...

[uls]

mas delikado ang virus floating in the air than virus on packages

kahit nahawakan mo as long as you didn't touch your face and you wash your hands agad... you're fine

pero ung virus suspended in the air wala ka kalaban laban

ever entered an empty room and smell yosi?

you know people were smoking in that room maybe even an hour ago

now replace yosi with aerosol containing virus

[dr. d]

mas delikado ang virus floating in the air than virus on packages

kahit nahawakan mo as long as you didn't tough your face and you wash your hands agad... you're fine

pero ung virus suspended in the air wala ka kalaban laban

ever entered an empty room and smell yosi?

you know people were smoking in that room maybe even an hour ago

now replace yosi with aerosol containing virus

masks, folks. masks!
especially when in strange places.

[Flipo]

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[_Cathy_]

Nothing to worry if naka mask mga deliveries. Sila dapat matakot sayo since hindi ka naka-mask.

Di ba we are always reminded that wearing of masks is to save others, not yourself.

I'm having shortness of breath since Friday Hindi ko na alam kung anxiety ba or may sakit na ko. I promised myself na I will wear mask na even if 5 secs lang interaction ko sa delivery. Napaka paranoid ko yun pala yung basic hindi ko alam - I did not know that normal breathing can spread covid

I hope this cures cats anxiety...

Still feeling anxious. I am looking for face masks sa Shopee and I am surprised that a box costs as low as P60+ I bought for P200+ hindi pa nga nagagamit kasi may amoy. I plan to buy Vietnam face masks pero nasa P300+ pa rin. I prefer either Taiwan or Vietnam.

i never saw a post in this thread about avoiding shared toilets (public toilet, office restrooms etc)

puro disinfecting packages mga nababasa ko

pag may virus ang unang gumamit ng toilet at nag flush siya without putting down the lid, ung aerosols generated will float in the air

tapos meron sumunod na gumamit ng toilet...

i guess people didn't think about that

now that's one more thing to worry about hehe

That's why when I go out it's only for a 2 hrs or less. I never take off my mask so the whole time I am out I don't drink or pee.

[ray_noel]

masks, folks. masks!
especially when in strange places.

Kahit naka mask doc ma aamoy mi pa rin yung smoke...

Meaning ba nun nakaka pasok pa rin si virus kahit nag surgical mask ka?

And Dapat hindi mo ma amoy usok ba to make sure na walang aerosol ka na nakuha?

If yes, surgical mask is not as effective as it should be... kahit yung sinabi ni uls, papasok ka sa c.r alam mo nag spray ng deodorizer kasi maaamoy kahit may mask...


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[boybi]

Kahit naka mask doc ma aamoy mi pa rin yung smoke...

Meaning ba nun nakaka pasok pa rin si virus kahit nag surgical mask ka?

And Dapat hindi mo ma amoy usok ba to make sure na walang aerosol ka na nakuha?

If yes, surgical mask is not as effective as it should be... kahit yung sinabi ni uls, papasok ka sa c.r alam mo nag spray ng deodorizer kasi maaamoy kahit may mask...


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Because masks will not protect the wearer, it’s for the protection of others in case the wearer has the virus.

If the wearer has the virus, when he breathes, coughs or sneezes, most of the virus particles will stick to the inside of the mask and won’t be floating in the surrounding air.

[_Cathy_]

Kahit naka mask doc ma aamoy mi pa rin yung smoke...

Meaning ba nun nakaka pasok pa rin si virus kahit nag surgical mask ka?

And Dapat hindi mo ma amoy usok ba to make sure na walang aerosol ka na nakuha?

If yes, surgical mask is not as effective as it should be... kahit yung sinabi ni uls, papasok ka sa c.r alam mo nag spray ng deodorizer kasi maaamoy kahit may mask...


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Pag naka N95 wala kang maamoy, I knew that kasi when I was buying cilantro I thought peke ata walang amoy, then I remembered naka N95 pala ko Sobrang mahal naman kung daily naka N95, I think it's P200 each? Hindi naman kaya ng lahat gumasta ng P6000 a month for mask

What if may covid tapos wala siyang mask at nag cough siya sa enclosed space then you come in a few seconds later pero ikaw naka surgical mask lang

[jut703]

Pag naka N95 wala kang maamoy, I knew that kasi when I was buying cilantro I thought peke ata walang amoy, then I remembered naka N95 pala ko Sobrang mahal naman kung daily naka N95, I think it's P200 each? Hindi naman kaya ng lahat gumasta ng P6000 a month for mask

What if may covid tapos wala siyang mask at nag cough siya sa enclosed space then you come in a few seconds later pero ikaw naka surgical mask lang

Whether surgical or N95, you still have a ~15% chance to inhale aerosolized droplets containing covid if the spreader did not have a mask on.

Thats why it's critical that everyone has a mask on because you can never be sure that you're not an asymptomatic carrier.

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[shadow]

Because masks will not protect the wearer, it’s for the protection of others in case the wearer has the virus.

If the wearer has the virus, when he breathes, coughs or sneezes, most of the virus particles will stick to the inside of the mask and won’t be floating in the surrounding air.

Whether surgical or N95, you still have a ~15% chance to inhale aerosolized droplets containing covid if the spreader did not have a mask on.

Thats why it's critical that everyone has a mask on because you can never be sure that you're not an asymptomatic carrier.

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Dapat ganyan ang messaging ng DOH, you wear mask to protect others from yourself in case asymtomatic ka.

Pero ngayon ang intindi ng tao is wearing of mask is to protect yourself from the virus.

Kaso kung yun matitigas talaga ulo na ayaw mag mask kung hinde sila takot mahawa mas lalo siguro sila walang pakialam na makahawa rin.


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[_Cathy_]

Dapat ganyan ang messaging ng DOH, you wear mask to protect others from yourself in case asymtomatic ka.

Pero ngayon ang intindi ng tao is wearing of mask is to protect yourself from the virus.

Kaso kung yun matitigas talaga ulo na ayaw mag mask kung hinde sila takot mahawa mas lalo siguro sila walang pakialam na makahawa rin.


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Mas lalo hindi magsusuot mga selfish who don't care about others.

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[shadow]

Oo nga yun usok ng yosi meron kayang nasasamang virus doon?


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[_Cathy_]

Oo nga yun usok ng yosi meron kayang nasasamang virus doon?


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May nagyo yosi pa ba ngayon in public? Wala na ata. Feeling ko meron e galing lungs yun usok

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[Monseratto]

during sars1 may transmission in a building in HK

ung piping ng toilet runs from top to bottom of building so meron may virus sa higher floor

ung pag flush ng toilet generates aerosols nag leak sa pipe sa lower floors

nagka virus mga sa lower floor

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scientists knew that so they looked for sarscov2 in stool infected people and they found virus

Earliest HK COVID cases in HK were from poorly installed toilet pipes which caused a cluster. Also discoveries of signs of COVID last November in sewage by Italian scientist...

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[StockEngine]

Dapat ganyan ang messaging ng DOH, you wear mask to protect others from yourself in case asymtomatic ka.

Pero ngayon ang intindi ng tao is wearing of mask is to protect yourself from the virus.

Kaso kung yun matitigas talaga ulo na ayaw mag mask kung hinde sila takot mahawa mas lalo siguro sila walang pakialam na makahawa rin.


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Excellent point. Hindi pa nila minessage ito? Service providers should wear masks.

[ray_noel]

Because masks will not protect the wearer, it’s for the protection of others in case the wearer has the virus.

If the wearer has the virus, when he breathes, coughs or sneezes, most of the virus particles will stick to the inside of the mask and won’t be floating in the surrounding air.

Pag naka N95 wala kang maamoy, I knew that kasi when I was buying cilantro I thought peke ata walang amoy, then I remembered naka N95 pala ko Sobrang mahal naman kung daily naka N95, I think it's P200 each? Hindi naman kaya ng lahat gumasta ng P6000 a month for mask

What if may covid tapos wala siyang mask at nag cough siya sa enclosed space then you come in a few seconds later pero ikaw naka surgical mask lang

Whether surgical or N95, you still have a ~15% chance to inhale aerosolized droplets containing covid if the spreader did not have a mask on.

Thats why it's critical that everyone has a mask on because you can never be sure that you're not an asymptomatic carrier.

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Mas mataas chance pala ng surgical mask lang... you will see still a lot of people binababa ang mask pag nag uusap... meron din iba nag yoyosi pa rin in public....

Yung protective layers ng surgical mask is from the inside to avoid spreading it outside... so yung galing ng outside pa puntang inside, wala...

It’s oposite sa mask na may mga valve? Kasi they can spread it outside but the virus can’t penetrate inside...

So to make it work both ways, suot ka ng surgical mask tapos cover it with mask na may valve...


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[_Cathy_]

Bawal nga daw mask na may valve e

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[uls]

Dapat ganyan ang messaging ng DOH, you wear mask to protect others from yourself in case asymtomatic ka.

Pero ngayon ang intindi ng tao is wearing of mask is to protect yourself from the virus.

Kaso kung yun matitigas talaga ulo na ayaw mag mask kung hinde sila takot mahawa mas lalo siguro sila walang pakialam na makahawa rin.


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dati binanggit ko yan diba?

i wear mask to protect you, you wear mask to protect me

kailangan may cooperation ng community for masks to be effective