China Corona Virus Outbreak

[dr. d]

With so much utang we are getting, why can’t we buy more equipment to expedite genome sequencing and testing.


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in my opinion,
it's like setting up a hospital.
the money is easy. the hospital building + equipment are do-able.
the difficult part is looking for the expert personnel willing to man it.

personally, i prefer using the money to buy quality vaccine.
someone (not me!) earlier said, "vaccination is key".

[uls]

reading your post (#28987), i got the impression that you were accusing the authorities of deliberately withholding information, until they could not keep it a secret any longer.
apologies for the mis-understanding.

it could be that the gov't didn't want the public to panic that's why medyo hesitant sila magsabi may local transmission

whenever the media interviews DOH or IATF person ang sinasabi lagi galing abroad mga delta wala pa local transmission

na-isolate naman daw agad kaya di nakahawa

malabo yun coz once may pumasok na delta, mahahawa mga tao sa paligid

ung mga nahawa makakahawa din ng iba

so ung 2nd generation, 3rd generation onwards local transmission na yan

[shadow]

Inutil talaga DOH, FDA and dutiti administration.


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[H1Tman]

in my opinion,
it's like setting up a hospital.
the money is easy. the hospital building + equipment are do-able.
the difficult part is looking for the expert personnel willing to man it.

personally, i prefer using the money to buy quality vaccine.
someone (not me!) earlier said, "vaccination is key".

That’s another issue doc. Are we buying quality vaccine?[emoji2373]


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[BratPAQ]

Gawin ng mandatory vaccinstion, paliitin na ang mundo ng mga ayaw pabakuna.


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First they have to make the vaccine available on more places than now. Gamitin yang mga Cinema na nabubulok lang. Hindi yung pipila pa sa mga baha at ulan mga tao para mabakunahan. Hindi naman tayo tulad ng US na scraping the bottom of the barrel na for people to be vaccinated. Marami pa rin gusto pa vaccine pero mabagal ang LGU.

[dr. d]

That’s another issue doc. Are we buying quality vaccine?[emoji2373]


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i do not have the expertise to comment on that.
sorry.

but i am a believer in "the best vaccine is the one that is available".

[uls]

di naman masisi gobyerno, kahit ung mga bansa pinaka strict mag-implement ng airport-to-quarantine nalulusutan

it's an airborne respiratory virus

[BratPAQ]

i agreer with cns.
... only when the vaccine becomes easily available to anyone who wishes it.

is govt still limiting importation and distribution rights to itself?
in my opinion, given the chance, private enterprise may be able to do it faster and more efficiently...

Minsan kasi ang sinasabi ng gobyerno sa news eh "kaya po magpa bakuna na kayo" it's like the government is spinning like madami tayo vaccine at wala gusto pa bakuna. Are they not aware na 2am pa lang pila na mga tao and as early as 7am uuwi ka na dahil puno na pila for that day? Pumipila sa baha mga tao para pa bakuna. Wala sa mga citizen ang choke point.

[cast_no_shadow]

Minsan kasi ang sinasabi ng gobyerno sa news eh "kaya po magpa bakuna na kayo" it's like the government is spinning like madami tayo vaccine at wala gusto pa bakuna. Are they not aware na 2am pa lang pila na mga tao and as early as 7am uuwi ka na dahil puno na pila for that day? Pumipila sa baha mga tao para pa bakuna. Wala sa mga citizen ang choke point.

Decentralized ba talaga sa roll out wala standard SOP prescribed?

Sa Manila lang naman talaga ang glaring na bulok yung roll out.

Kahapon 4:30am ko hinatid sa pila parents ko. Site started 7:00am. 7:30am tapos na sila for their 2nd dose.

Again nakakawa man but wala choice eh ganun yung proseso. Iraos mo na talaga.


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[shadow]

di naman masisi gobyerno, kahit ung mga bansa pinaka strict mag-implement ng airport-to-quarantine nalulusutan

it's an airborne respiratory virus

intuil pa Rin, ganun talaga pag batugan yun principal. Emeegency meeting daw pero bukas pa naka schdule. Walang sense of urgency. Hinde mo masisi dahil bed weather at masarap matulog kaya tulog muna siya.

Ibang Bansa hinde ko masisi dahil mabilis gumalaw at decisive so pag meron nakalusot wala na talaga magagawa eh dito ayaw mag travel ban dahil mas inisip pa yun China baka magtampo, tapos indecisive, iba-iba announcement hinde muna magusap

Magsabi na ganito then oras lang babaguhin nanaman.

Kung hinde mga inutil ewan ko ano tawag


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[cast_no_shadow]

Kung hinde mga inutil ewan ko ano tawag


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Not reflective with False Asia survey results [emoji23]


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[shadow]

Not reflective with False Asia survey results [emoji23]


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Yun na lang trabaho ng matanda once a week meeting hinde pa magawa agad kahit naghahabol tayo ngayon sa delta.

Unahin pa tulog niya. Walang viber group hinde din yata marunong gumamit ng zoom mga tao ngayon sa gobyerno.


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[tarzegetakizerd]

Decentralized ba talaga sa roll out wala standard SOP prescribed?

Sa Manila lang naman talaga ang glaring na bulok yung roll out.

Kahapon 4:30am ko hinatid sa pila parents ko. Site started 7:00am. 7:30am tapos na sila for their 2nd dose.

Again nakakawa man but wala choice eh ganun yung proseso. Iraos mo na talaga.


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Bulok din SOP sa Baguio. 2am/3am na daw pumipila ang mga tao. Alang silbe yung pre-registration same sa Maynila

[dr. d]

Bulok din SOP sa Baguio. 2am/3am na daw pumipila ang mga tao. Alang silbe yung pre-registration same sa Maynila

yan ang nakapagtataka.
what is so difficult with, "pre-register first, and come to the place on your scheduled schedule" ?

[cast_no_shadow]

Bulok din SOP sa Baguio. 2am/3am na daw pumipila ang mga tao. Alang silbe yung pre-registration same sa Maynila

For Manila the only purpose of the online registration is for registration but not for appointment.

You register and walk in anytime. Yes bulok nga ha ha ha


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[Lew_Alcindor]

it could be that the gov't didn't want the public to panic that's why medyo hesitant sila magsabi may local transmission

whenever the media interviews DOH or IATF person ang sinasabi lagi galing abroad mga delta wala pa local transmission

na-isolate naman daw agad kaya di nakahawa

malabo yun coz once may pumasok na delta, mahahawa mga tao sa paligid

ung mga nahawa makakahawa din ng iba

so ung 2nd generation, 3rd generation onwards local transmission na yan

more than a year na pandemic. I dont think people will panic with announcement of Delta variant local transmission.

daoat nga ina-nounce agad para balik ECQ mentality.

[viper888]

This has been circulating around Viber groups, not sure if its true:

Heads up to our Friends & Family...

Advance Information from just-concluded IATF Meeting today:

NCR will be escalated to GCQ WITH HEIGHTENED RESTRICTIONS due to the local transmission of the delta variant, effective immediately upon approval of PRRD.

Indoor dining will be for vaccinated individuals only at 20% venue capacity. Non-vaccinated will be allowed for outdoor dining (al fresco) at 50% venue capacity.

Lastly, children below 18 years old are not allowed to go out again.


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[cast_no_shadow]

Lastly, children below 18 years old are not allowed to go out again.


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Before was this strictly implemented? Sa papel lang din naman yan.

Samen akala mo walang Covid eh.


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[dr. d]

Before was this strictly implemented? Sa papel lang din naman yan.

Samen akala mo walang Covid eh.


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nasa sa atin na po 'yan.
policies like these are very difficult to adequately enforce.
if the infection spreads, do we have the gall to accuse anyone else but ourselves?

my opinion.

[cast_no_shadow]

nasa sa atin na po 'yan.
policies like these are very difficult to adequately enforce.
if the infection spreads, do we have the gall to accuse anyone else but ourselves?

my opinion.

Again doc madami sa atin walang disiplina.

Hindi lang naman pertaining dito, too many laws talagang problema js implementing it.

Some folks just wear mask / face shields for compliance kaya nga sablay sablay mga pag susuot eh.

At this point better to enforce it strictly. Mas masasalba tayo lalo na tayong mga sumusunod talaga.


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