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    #20241
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Yup, para sure kung nag take or hinde


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    pwede...

    para malaman hindi sugar water lang ang ininject sayo hehe

    onga no?

    kunwari participant ka sa clinical trial

    diba double blind yan di mo alam kung totoong vaccine o placebo ang bibigay sayo

    you can use rapid antibody test to check whether or not you got the real thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pwede...

    para malaman hindi sugar water lang ang ininject sayo hehe

    onga no?

    kunwari participant ka sa clinical trial

    diba double blind yan di mo alam kung totoong vaccine o placebo ang bibigay sayo

    you can use rapid antibody test to check whether or not you got the real thing
    Pwede na kaya after the first dose? Para alam if balikan mo pa 2nd dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Pwede na kaya after the first dose? Para alam if balikan mo pa 2nd dose.
    Pwede na pero hinde pa daw aabot doon sa efficacy rate niya sa first dose, dahil primer lang para sa.body then yun second dose booster na to get the full efficacy.

    Pero I think before and after ng magpa vaccine dapat mag rapid test para sure. Siguro 3 weeks after ng 1st dose.


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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Pwede na kaya after the first dose? Para alam if balikan mo pa 2nd dose.
    actually sa western countries they're delaying 2nd dose

    since they wanna vaccinate more people ung second dose na naka-reserve para sa mga nag 1st dose gagamitin nila sa ibang tao

    nasa 50% efficacy ang 1st dose... the thinking is some protection is better than no protection

    mas madami mabakunahan kung gamitin agad mga second dose... hintay nalang dumating bagong supply

    sa mga nabasa ko first dose palang meron na antibody response -- detectable na sa antibody test

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    actually sa western countries they're delaying 2nd dose

    since they wanna vaccinate more people ung second dose na naka-reserve para sa mga nag 1st dose gagamitin nila sa ibang tao

    nasa 50% efficacy ang 1st dose... the thinking is some protection is better than no protection

    mas madami mabakunahan kung gamitin agad mga second dose... hintay nalang dumating bagong supply

    sa mga nabasa ko first dose palang meron na antibody response -- detectable na sa antibody test
    Sa Europe yata plan nila yan pero maraming experts kontra.


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    davao city will get the pfizer vax from the national gov't before march. ayuz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    davao city will get the pfizer vax from the national gov't before march. ayuz.
    Bakit hinde sinovac isasak sa lahat ng tao doon? Susunod naman silang kay dutti


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    #20249
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Ang manok ng puppy eh yung Sinovac, though Sinopharm yung ginamit ng PSG (and likely the puppy himself).

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    Bharat Biotech nag apply ng EUA sa Pinas

    inactivated virus vaccine ito tulad ng sinovac and sinopharm

    no efficacy data

    di pinapansin ng media kasi hindi gawa sa china haha

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    ............
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    New COVID-19 variant defeats plasma treatment, may reduce vaccine efficacy | Reuters

    Furthermore, 501Y.V2 shows substantial or complete escape from neutralising antibodies in COVID-19 convalescent plasma,” they wrote, adding that their conclusions “highlight the prospect of reinfection ... and may foreshadow reduced efficacy of current spike-based vaccines.”
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    #20253
    Ayos pwede ba mag mall mga bata 10 years old above. Pwede sa mall pero hinde pa rin pwede sa school.


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    #20254
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Bharat Biotech nag apply ng EUA sa Pinas

    inactivated virus vaccine ito tulad ng sinovac and sinopharm

    no efficacy data

    di pinapansin ng media kasi hindi gawa sa china haha
    Wait mo lang, pag yan ang binili ng government, paniguradong same lang din yan na mangyayari sa sinovac, marami ring aayaw dyan.

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    France tells its citizens: Fabric masks not enough to protect from COVID-19 - CNA

    The French government is now recommending that people wear surgical masks in public because they offer better protection from COVID-19 transmission than fabric face coverings, Health Minister Olivier Veran said on Thursday (Jan 21).

    France already requires masks to be worn in public places, but until now has not made recommendations about the type of masks. French authorities are worried they could be hit by new, more contagious variants of the virus.

    "The recommendation that I make to the French people is to no longer use fabric masks," Veran told French broadcaster TF1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drawdee View Post
    Wait mo lang, pag yan ang binili ng government, paniguradong same lang din yan na mangyayari sa sinovac, marami ring aayaw dyan.
    Tama. Wala din ito sa listahan ng bibilhin ng goberyo

    At, wala pa ding presyo so hindi pa alam.

    Hintay hintay muna mga apologist ng CHINA WUHAN VIRUS bago mangdamay ng iba

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ayos pwede ba mag mall mga bata 10 years old above. Pwede sa mall pero hinde pa rin pwede sa school.


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    baka mahawa mga senyor citizen titsers and principal.

    if virus is spread via exhaled breath and mouth fluids,
    dapat ay face mask + face shield and "minimize pagsasalita sa kolasroom" at all times.
    "keep quiet, students" will have to be re-enforced, now more than ever.
    so papano 'yan... pre-recorded lectures...?

    heh heh.

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    that E484 mutation is bad

    the UK variant doesn't have that mutation

    South Africa and Brazil variants meron

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    that E484 mutation is bad

    the UK variant doesn't have that mutation

    South Africa and Brazil variants meron

    Fauci: New data shows Covid vaccines may be less effective against some strains

    Some early findings that were published in the preprint server bioRxiv, which have yet to be peer reviewed, indicate that the variant identified in South Africa, known as 501Y.V2, can evade the antibodies provided by some coronavirus treatments and may reduce the efficacy of the current line of available vaccines.

    “Furthermore, 501Y.V2 shows substantial or complete escape from neutralising antibodies in COVID-19 convalescent plasma,” researchers with South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases wrote. Their conclusions, they said, “highlight the prospect of reinfection ... and may foreshadow reduced efficacy of current spike-based vaccines.”

    Even if the drugs are less effective, they will still likely provide enough protection to make the vaccines worth getting, Fauci said during a White House press briefing.

China Corona Virus Outbreak