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    #20221
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    tsikoteers,

    sabi ko sa inyo sense of humor ng universe

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    330,000+ vaccine doses pulled in California after allergic reactions

    California has removed over 330,000 doses of the Moderna coronavirus vaccine from circulation after six healthcare workers experienced severe allergic reactions after being vaccinated.


    Batikos pa sa china. Im on a roll
    Transparency... Pag sinovac yan or sinopharm baka I donate lang nila dito yan at ikaw makakakuha niyang kasama mga DDS


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    #20222
    logical lang naman di kasing taas ang efficacy ng inactivated virus vaccine compared sa mRNA vaccine

    mRNA vaccine show only the spike to the immune system so all antibodies produced are specific to the spike only -- concentrated lang sa spike ang antibodies

    sa inactivated virus vaccine the whole virus is shown to the immune system not only the spike

    so antibodies produced are for various parts of the virus

    kalat kalat ang antibodies hindi concentrated sa isang part lang kaya di kasing taas ang efficacy

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    #20223
    old style bakuna ang china

    ganyan naman talaga ang pag gawa ng bakuna bago naimbento ang mRNA, viral vector, etc

    dunno what the big deal is

    wala naman pumipilit kahit kanino magpabakuna ng china

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    eto isipin niyo

    ung sobrang bago technology wala pa nakakaalam ang long term effect

    wala pa isang taon ang mRNA vaccine

    lahat ng nabakunahan ng mRNA vaccine considered phase 4 trial yan

    inoobserbahan pa ng Pfizer and Moderna yan

    then irerefine pa nila ang advice

    tulad ng nangyari sa Norway... Ni-refine ang criteria huwag ibigay sa mga matandang may sakit

    later on meron pa yan
    Last edited by uls; January 21st, 2021 at 11:50 AM.

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    #20224
    India gumawa din ng inactivated virus vaccine





    at least kaya nila gumawa ng sariling bakuna kahit low tech

    eh ang Pinas?

    hanggang import lang kaya

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    #20225
    Dapat kasi yung mga dds pumila na at magpalista na sa malakanyang for sinovac vaccine, para hindi na ma-stress si tatay digz kung paano niya idi-dispose yung 20 million doses ( ba yun?) na inorder niya.

    Well known na kasi mga non dds eh sa astra zeneca, pfizer, moderna, j&j naghihintay pati na nga LGU.

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    #20226
    kung di magamit ung sinovac hayaan masira

    no big deal... di naman bago sa gobyerno hinahayaan masira mga gamot

    dami expired na gamot sa mga DOH warehouse

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    #20227
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung di magamit ung sinovac hayaan masira

    no big deal... di naman bago sa gobyerno hinahayaan masira mga gamot

    dami expired na gamot sa mga DOH warehouse
    di ko alam ito bro? ano kayang mga gamot, sayang naman kung ganun. sayang pera and sayang tao pwede maligtas nito

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    #20228
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    di ko alam ito bro? ano kayang mga gamot, sayang naman kung ganun. sayang pera and sayang tao pwede maligtas nito

    example

    P2.2B worth of DOH drugs expired or sitting in storage – COA

    Explain expiring medicines, DOH told | Inquirer News

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    #20229
    intention is good: let's provide free maintenance meds to the poor

    execution is bad: matapos mag acquire ng napakadaming gamot, wala naman kakayahan mag distribute

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    #20230
    all this talk about getting ready for arrival of vaccines... it's all theater

    looks good, sounds good

    but i'm skeptical of the execution

    i see red tape and controversies screw up vaccine distribution

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    thanks for sharing.. sayang pera
    normal lang sa gobyerno yan

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    Sad but true.
    One of the main reason for slow distribution is every local official wants their share of the limelight when it comes to giving to the poor plus palaksan system wherein relatives and friends of officials gets pushed up or inserted in the queue. Kailagan may banner pa pati photo-op para sa FB.

    National and some Local governments started holding mock vaccination trials. But guaranteed even with this magiging magulo yan once they start distributing it.

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    #20234
    If you have allergies, pre existing illness such as diabetes, high blood etc.... mRNA is also not recommended so better check with your doctor on which vaccine method suits you.

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    #20235
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    old style bakuna ang china

    ganyan naman talaga ang pag gawa ng bakuna bago naimbento ang mRNA, viral vector, etc

    dunno what the big deal is

    wala naman pumipilit kahit kanino magpabakuna ng china

    -

    eto isipin niyo

    ung sobrang bago technology wala pa nakakaalam ang long term effect

    wala pa isang taon ang mRNA vaccine

    lahat ng nabakunahan ng mRNA vaccine considered phase 4 trial yan

    inoobserbahan pa ng Pfizer and Moderna yan

    then irerefine pa nila ang advice

    tulad ng nangyari sa Norway... Ni-refine ang criteria huwag ibigay sa mga matandang may sakit

    later on meron pa yan
    Anong wala? Govt ang pumipilit hinde daw dapat maging choosy


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    #20236
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Anong wala? Govt ang pumipilit hinde daw dapat maging choosy


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    hindi ka naman kukunin ng pulis, itatali at i-injection-an ng china vaccine

    ang sinasabi ng gobyerno kung gusto mo libre wag ka choosy

    kung ayaw mo hintay ka ibang vaccine

    yan ang pagkaintindi ko

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    #20237
    anyway wala naman magpapa-injection ng china vaccine mabubulok lang yan sa storage

    ayusin nalang ng gobyerno/LGUs + private sector ang distribution ng pfizer, moderna, azn vaccines

    lalo ung pfizer & moderna madali masira

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    #20238
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    hindi ka naman kukunin ng pulis, itatali at i-injection-an ng china vaccine

    ang sinasabi ng gobyerno kung gusto mo libre wag ka choosy

    kung ayaw mo hintay ka ibang vaccine

    yan ang pagkaintindi ko
    Paano ba dapat magpa antigen or rapid test before magpa vaccine then test ulit after 3 weeks para makita kung meron na antibodies?


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    #20239
    ^^

    you mean after magpabakuna to find out if you already have antibodies?

    yes makikita yan sa rapid antibody test (IGM/IGG)

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    #20240
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^

    you mean after magpabakuna to find out if you already have antibodies?

    yes makikita yan sa rapid antibody test (IGM/IGG)
    Yup, para sure kung nag take or hinde


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