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    #21221
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Sir ung bakuna ng fosun/biontech yan din ang bakuna ng pfizer/biontech

    iisa lang yun




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    gulat kayo no?

    China vs the West ba?

    di niyo alam may investment ang china sa #1 covid vaccine in the world
    hindi, e ilang beses mo na napost yan sa thread. What's important is the nationality of the company Pfizer is American. I don't care kung may investment pa dyan China, Russia or kung anong bansa. Kaya pati mga GErman boss ko galit na galit sa CHina even before the CHina virus

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    #21222
    Im surprised that we have positive covid here at the office so everyone is wary again on taking the rapid test. We are not still safe not unless we are all vaccinated.

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    #21223
    Sa mga maseselan na wala naman karapatan mag selan:

    All COVID vaccines stop severe illness and death. Take what's offered.

    Our advice is simple: Take whatever vaccine is offered to you. Right now, all of the vaccines are the “best.” This is what we’re doing for ourselves.

    The varying “effectiveness” rates miss the most important point: The vaccines were all 100% effective in the vaccine trials in stopping hospitalizations and death. Waiting for a more effective vaccine is actually the worst thing you can do to lower your risk of getting severely ill and dying of COVID-19.

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    No death or serious illness in 7 trials

    All seven COVID-19 vaccines that have completed large efficacy trials — Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, Novavax, AstraZeneca, Sputnik V and Sinovac — appear to be 100% effective for serious complications. Not one vaccinated person has gotten sick enough to require hospitalization. Not a single vaccinated person has died of COVID-19.
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    #21224
    Health]Health technology assessment sought for Sinovac | Philstar.com technology assessment sought for Sinovac | Philstar.com
    sabi ko nga kung ayaw di huwag

    di ko alam bakit nag abala pa mag donate ng bakuna ang china sa pinas puro batikos mga pinoy

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    #21225
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Sa mga maseselan na wala naman karapatan mag selan:

    All COVID vaccines stop severe illness and death. Take what's offered.
    samin Moderna and Astra daw ang hinihintay. Nagpa-preregister na din kami after ng statement ni RSA.

    Yun lang din naman consideration ko kaya papaturok ako kahit ano dun sa dalawa. Severe illness and death prevention.

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    #21226
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Sa mga maseselan na wala naman karapatan mag selan:

    All COVID vaccines stop severe illness and death. Take what's offered.

    masyado anti-china kasi mga noypi western centric kasi

    tsaka feeling 1st world pero 3rd world naman

    kung ayaw magpaturok ng china vaccine di huwag diba?

    maghintay ng pfizer as if may dadating millions of doses

    at best astra lang may pag asa large volume

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    #21227
    FOSUN BioNTech Vaccine...Soon made in China and distributed in Asia.

    Fosun Pharma is a subsidiary of Fosun Group, the private Chinese conglomerate with vast international holdings that include the Club Med Hotel chain, an English Premier League soccer team, and the circus group Cirque du Soleil. In its own right, Fosun Pharma is one of China's largest health care companies, manufacturing and selling drugs as well as providing health care services in hospitals.

    BioNTech said in October that its vaccines for China's market would be manufactured entirely in Germany, but BioNTech told Fortune that's only the case for BioNTech's first vaccine shipment to China. Starting with the second shipment, BioNTech will send vaccine materials to Fosun to "fill and finish," meaning Fosun will fill the vials and package the vaccines for distribution. Both companies told Fortune that Fosun may eventually manufacture the vaccine start to finish in China.

    On Dec. 30, Chinese news outlet Caixin reported that the two companies are in talks to build a manufacturing plant in China with the capacity to produce 200 million doses of the vaccine annually.
    Last edited by Monseratto; February 26th, 2021 at 12:00 PM.

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    #21228
    wala naman nagsasabi bulok pfizer better sinovac (except si kagalingan)

    highest efficacy nga mga mRNA vaccine (pfizer/biontech, Moderna)

    next are the adenovirus vaccines (Astra, J&J)

    next are the inactivated virus vaccines

    point is wala nga dumadating na mRNA vaccine

    pati ung astra na low cost high volume wala din dumadating

    gumawa ng paraan ang gobyerno para magkaroon ng bakuna pero puro batikos

    ung mga ayaw magpaturok di huwag

    huwag na madami salita

    hintayin nalang dumating ang brand na gusto nila
    Last edited by uls; February 26th, 2021 at 12:08 PM.

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    #21229
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Pfizer is just the distributor. BioNTech vaccine is made in Belgium and Germany... But soon it may be made in China and distributed in Asia.
    Much better then (Germany > USA) I don't mind also if it's made in China since most everything is outsourced to China. Naalala ko boybi posted that Chinese will make a product based on your budget and specifications so basta American or European standards I trust it. The only China brand I like is Anker and Mi haha.

    Btw yung sinocare ang daming products sa shopee, BP monitor, glucometer and thermometer etc pero loyal to Omron pa din ako, that's what I see the doctors use

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    Last edited by _Cathy_; February 26th, 2021 at 12:14 PM.

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    #21230
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    FOSUN BioNTech Vaccine...Soon made in China and distributed in Asia.
    That seem inevitable as long as this pandemic has not disappeared.

    Ma shock kaya mga anti chinese na their prized Pfizer vaccine maker is partly owned by a chinese company.
    baka lumipat bigla sa Moderna or Astrazeneca.

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    #21231
    to be clear lang....

    the german company BioNTech is the company responsible for making the now famous mRNA vaccine bnt162b2

    Pfizer is an investor

    Fosun is an investor

    but Fosun and Pfizer aren't connected in this deal

    it's only between Fosun and BioNTech

    what Fosun gets is exclusive rights for importing and distributing finished vaccine in china (CBU)

    then later importing imported bulk ingredients for filling (semi-knockdown)

    then later making vaccines from scratch

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    #21232
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    to be clear lang....

    what Fosun gets is exclusive rights for importing and distributing finished vaccine in china (CBU)

    then later importing imported bulk ingredients for filling (semi-knockdown)

    then later making vaccines from scratch
    So Fosun has the rights in the future to make Covid vaccine using the mRna Tech?

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    #21233
    konting trivia lang hehe

    during development BioNTech's mRNA vaccine was known as bnt162b2

    then the product is called tozinameran

    then a brand name: Comirnaty

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    1 million doses of Comirnaty will arrive at HK tomorrow morning

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    #21234
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    So Fosun has the rights in the future to make Covid vaccine using the mRna Tech?
    in the future Fosun will be making the vaccine from scratch so yes they will be using BioNTech's mRNA tech

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    #21235
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    wala naman nagsasabi bulok pfizer better sinovac (except si kagalingan)

    highest efficacy nga mga mRNA vaccine (pfizer/biontech, Moderna)

    next are the adenovirus vaccines (Astra, J&J)

    next are the inactivated virus vaccines

    point is wala nga dumadating na mRNA vaccine

    pati ung astra na low cost high volume wala din dumadating

    gumawa ng paraan ang gobyerno para magkaroon ng bakuna pero puro batikos

    ung mga ayaw magpaturok di huwag

    huwag na madami salita

    hintayin nalang dumating ang brand na gusto nila

    Ang sinasbi ko mas grabe sideeffects ng mRNA kaysa inactivated veeerus.

    Ako sa pandemic na ito eh im a SUN WORSHIPPER. Ilan na lahway ng tira-tira chicken bones nahawakan ko, baka nalanghap ko pa nga habang nagpapakain pooooosa pero hindi ako nilalagnat mag-iisang taon na. MATIBAY NA NILALANG AKECH vs COVID.

    Sana nga wag matuloy chinavaks tapos puro mga western vaccine dumating tapos panuodin ko kayo ano side effect maranasan peeenoise. Kung pro-america dapat mafeel din ng peenoise symptoms ng western vaccine.

    Type nyo ba low platelets?

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    #21236
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Sana nga wag matuloy chinavaks tapos puro mga western vaccine dumating..........


    oo sana di na nag donate ang china puro batikos

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    buti kung madami dumating na western vaccine

    kung may dumating na pfizer from covax napakakonte lang nun (good for 60,000 people?)

    good luck kung meron pa susunod

    pag asa lang astra... kaya nila mag supply ng madami dami pero matatagalan pa... dami bansa umaasa sa astra

    kung 70% ng population ang babakunahan (77 million people)... tapos aasa lang sa western vaccine?

    haha

    GOOD LUCK
    Last edited by uls; February 26th, 2021 at 03:00 PM.

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    #21237
    mas maganda nga wala na dumating chinavaks para hindi imbentuhan ng batikos. Eh knowing peeenoise ang lakas mag nanette inbentor parang casa dealership.

    Kung puro western vaccine dumating tapos may natigok hahanapan na naman ng butas na ingredients raw material galing sa china. Juicecolored !!!! Sisihin na talaga china wag lagn western countries lalo na america pabagsak na!!!!!

    Eh ano ba gamit nyo cellphone? TApos ang lalakas pa magtiktok pagiling-giling pa at gamit pa zooom.

    6G na diskarte ng china ang bilis ng internet doon tapos peeenoise paarte-arte ano ba ambag sa mundo......mag ofw!!!!! Bayani kuno eh barangay mag-anak. (imagine nag-anak ng lima tapos gagawin hero!!! UGOK, bakit mo pinutok!!!! )

    tsikoteers na pro-america tapos na yun favorite nyo bansa. Sila-sila nagpapatayan. Tapos nakikibelong pa kayo eh ayaw nga sa inyo ni trumpo hahahahaha.

    "Noypiss sooooo white in the inside" Chin san su in the outside (ulitmo whitening cream china pa din )

    Luhtang talaga!!!!

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    #21238
    PH offers to pay more as a ‘technique’ to get COVID vaccine early – Manila Bulletin

    “This is the technique that we are doing, we are offsetting their price. We are negotiating to pay a little to ensure the early delivery,” Galvez told President Duterte in Filipino during a briefing.
    Admission of over pricing?
    Mas mahal na natin bibilhin yung vaccine tapos wala pa rin dumadating.
    Mukhang hindi effective technique ng government.

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    #21239
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    PH offers to pay more as a ‘technique’ to get COVID vaccine early – Manila Bulletin



    Admission of over pricing?
    Mas mahal na natin bibilhin yung vaccine tapos wala pa rin dumadating.
    Mukhang hindi effective technique ng government.
    gagamitin as palusot pag sobra sa badyet yung ginastos :D

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    #21240
    ang di maintindihan ng mga pinoy china vaccines fill a void

    hindi kaya ng western pharma supplyan ang buong mundo lalo na mga mahirap na bansa

    yan ang role ng china vaccine... para sa developing world

    pero dahil feeling mayaman ang Pinas only western vaccines are good enough

    so China pakiusap lang... huwag mo na bigyan o bentahan ng bakuna ang Pinas

    hayaan mo na ang pinas maghanap ng bakuna

    ikaw rin... pag may namatay matapos bakunahan katakot takot na batikos aabutin mo

    kaya wag na...

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