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    #211
    intay nalang ako sa nov gunshow at para mura ang AK 47

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    At ito okay na hand gun. hehe

    Browning 1911 isn't exactly what I'd consider a "reliable" handgun.

    Most preppers prefer Glock. Personally, I'd go for a Makarov/CZ-82/CZ-83 simply because...

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsTnmjZgFI0]Makarov Bottle Opener - YouTube[/ame]
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #213
    For survival, I'd take a nice reliable12 ga. pump action shotgun (like a Mossberg M590) and even a 2nd gen. Glock 17 as long as there's sufficient 9mm ammo and 12ga buckshot shells.

    For SHTF situations and dealing with an advancing zombie horde, I'd take something like this:



    The AA12 Atchisson Assault Shotgun with a 32-shell drum magazine.

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    #214
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    Browning 1911 isn't exactly what I'd consider a "reliable" handgun.

    Most preppers prefer Glock. Personally, I'd go for a Makarov/CZ-82/CZ-83 simply because...
    that's because glock is like the ak of pistols, very reliable and next to impossible to break unintentionally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    For survival, I'd take a nice reliable12 ga. pump action shotgun (like a Mossberg M590) and even a 2nd gen. Glock 17 as long as there's sufficient 9mm ammo and 12ga buckshot shells.

    For SHTF situations and dealing with an advancing zombie horde, I'd take something like this:



    The AA12 Atchisson Assault Shotgun with a 32-shell drum magazine.
    you do realize that shotguns takes forever to reload right plus recoil is pretty strong so quick follow up shots are hard to do especially on pump action shotguns? that's why most people choose m16 platforms.

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    #215
    Shotgun is one of the most versatile long firearm I want to have in a shft situation. A trained operator will not have a problem loading ammo that is why in tactical trainings, shotgun and a reliable sidearm go hand in hand (watch Magpul The Art of Dynamic Shotgun).

    A modern quality shotgun is also like any modern rifle. Recoil is suppressed by upgrading dampening furniture (to make it also look tacticool ) and/or using reduced recoil loads. If 12 gauge is too strong to handle, then use 20 gauge.

    Why I want a shotgun? Ammunition and parts is cheap, versatile and readily available anywhere. Stopping power is awesome. It is a highly effective in CQB and if need be, for long range duty (watch hickok45). Shotgun is good at hitting a moving target at 20 to 50 meters and highly destructive at a closer distance. If you want to hit targets 50 meters and beyond, just switch to slug shotshells. It can also be used for hunting small wild game animals for food (using birdshot load) which if you use say a M16 or AK, will completely obliterate your duck meal. You also eliminate the need to carry magazines (unless the shotgun is magazine fed type). It is highly effective at breaching doors and destroying locks. For crowd control, you can use non-lethal loads. Shotguns are easy to field strip and clean on the fly. No other long firearm, can do all of these.

    SWAT and special forces always have one in most of their operations (pump or semi-auto). If these guys depend on this all around weapon, I want one for myself as well, for all around use.

    The cocking sound of pump shotgun alone creates fear to those at the other end of its barrel.
    Last edited by frenchtower; September 19th, 2012 at 03:32 AM.

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    I prefer Sig over the Glock but… if there were a truly a Zombie Apocalypse, you will want something whose magazines and parts will be easy to find on dead victims. I’m sure you would more easily find Glock parts and mags vs other semi-auto pistols. If that were not an issue, I would realistically go with my Sig P226.

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    #217
    Shotgun, scattergun, peppergun. However you call it, it is awesome!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XCv0...e_gdata_player

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    #218
    Quote Originally Posted by frenchtower View Post
    Shotgun is one of the most versatile long firearm I want to have in a shft situation. A trained operator will not have a problem loading ammo that is why in tactical trainings, shotgun and a reliable sidearm go hand in hand (watch Magpul The Art of Dynamic Shotgun).
    Problem is, as the DVD pointed out, it takes considerably more skill especially switching between slugs and buckshots. That's the price of versatility. In a high stress situation that weapon system can also be a disadvantage...

    .22LR on the other hand... may be more than enough considering zombies are unlikely to be carrying armor and you can use the "silent" rounds >.>
    Last edited by safeorigin; September 19th, 2012 at 06:24 AM.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #219
    Agree with 22lr but isn't it too light to ever inflict serious damage to hordes of attacking bloodthirsty ghouls? Perhaps a 22 Win Mag?


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    Last edited by frenchtower; September 19th, 2012 at 07:10 AM.

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    #220
    Quote Originally Posted by frenchtower View Post
    I prefer Sig over the Glock butÖ if there were a truly a Zombie Apocalypse, you will want something whose magazines and parts will be easy to find on dead victims. Iím sure you would more easily find Glock parts and mags vs other semi-auto pistols. If that were not an issue, I would realistically go with my Sig P226.
    i also prefer the sig over the glock. my edc now is a sig 220 carry. the problem is parts aren't as widely available as glocks. plus it requires more maintenance than a glock. that's why it's hard for me to let go of my g19.

    Quote Originally Posted by frenchtower View Post
    Shotgun is one of the most versatile long firearm I want to have in a shft situation. A trained operator will not have a problem loading ammo that is why in tactical trainings, shotgun and a reliable sidearm go hand in hand (watch Magpul The Art of Dynamic Shotgun).

    A modern quality shotgun is also like any modern rifle. Recoil is suppressed by upgrading dampening furniture (to make it also look tacticool ) and/or using reduced recoil loads. If 12 gauge is too strong to handle, then use 20 gauge.

    Why I want a shotgun? Ammunition and parts is cheap, versatile and readily available anywhere. Stopping power is awesome. It is a highly effective in CQB and if need be, for long range duty (watch hickok45). Shotgun is good at hitting a moving target at 20 to 50 meters and highly destructive at a closer distance. If you want to hit targets 50 meters and beyond, just switch to slug shotshells. It can also be used for hunting small wild game animals for food (using birdshot load) which if you use say a M16 or AK, will completely obliterate your duck meal. You also eliminate the need to carry magazines (unless the shotgun is magazine fed type). It is highly effective at breaching doors and destroying locks. For crowd control, you can use non-lethal loads. Shotguns are easy to field strip and clean on the fly. No other long firearm, can do all of these.

    SWAT and special forces always have one in most of their operations (pump or semi-auto). If these guys depend on this all around weapon, I want one for myself as well, for all around use.

    The cocking sound of pump shotgun alone creates fear to those at the other end of its barrel.
    i agree but in a shtf situation shotgun won't be my main weapon, it will only serve as a secondary weapon for me. i already have an armscor shotgun which is very reliable. but like i said it isn't as easy to use compared to a pistol or rifle. there is no way you can reload a shotgun as quick as an m16 or a pistol where you can reload it in less than a second. i love shotguns because it can breach doors easily and really do a lot of damage at cqb situations and the variety of ammo loads available for it but again as much as i love it i wouldn't choose it as my main weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    Problem is, as the DVD pointed out, it takes considerably more skill especially switching between slugs and buckshots. That's the price of versatility. In a high stress situation that weapon system can also be a disadvantage...

    .22LR on the other hand... may be more than enough considering zombies are unlikely to be carrying armor and you can use the "silent" rounds >.>
    glad that you brought up the .22LR anyone who doubts the power of this round should do a lot of research. there is a reason why this is the number one choice of assassins till this day. it's been mossads execution caliber for decades. it's the only caliber that can be silenced properly.

    i've seen a video on youtube where a guy shot a chicken wrapped in jeans and a flannel at 100 yards and it ****ed that chicken up, just imagine what it would do to your head.

    Quote Originally Posted by frenchtower View Post
    Agree with 22lr but isn't it too light to ever inflict serious damage to hordes of attacking bloodthirsty ghouls? Perhaps a 22 Win Mag?


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    since zombies can only be killed with a head shot .22lr is very effective against zombies here's why.

    high velocity for long range
    quiet for being a gunshot
    can be dead accurate at long range
    only caliber that can be silenced to the point that it only sounds like an airsoft gun
    only caliber that you can bring thousands of it at the same time because of how light it is
    even a child can handle the recoil
    since the recoil is very light follow up shots are quick and accurate

    before doing a lot of research i also doubted the capability of the .22lr but after doing my research i was really impressed by it.

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