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    #3081
    Quote Originally Posted by kimbon View Post
    may option ba sa user setting ng I-stop na pwedeng tagalan konti ang pagactivate nito? what i meant kung ang default setting time is xx seconds pwede bang gawin ng 1min, o kaya 1.5 min or more? at saka di ba may option ito na pwedeng disengage lang ang i-stop kahit na halos walang galawan sa daan habang trapik?? TIA
    i-Stop length is dependent on a lot of factors. Cabin temperature is one of them, that's why i-Stop won't work if your A/C is set to 18 Degrees or the coldest setting. This is because the car thinks that you need the cabin to be cooler so it won't turn the engine off. So say you're out on the road and i-Stop turns your engine off, the car will be prompted by cabin sensors to turn the engine on again once the cabin temp goes below your set A/C temp.

    Basically, there's no way to make the duration "longer" or "shorter" because the system prioritizes passenger comfort.

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    #3082
    ^ can i say the time duration of the i-stop takes a bit longer if the thermostat sets at higher temp.? is that correct???

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    #3083
    I think no. May cabin temperature sensor naman yun sasakyan. Kung ibabase natin sa sinabi ni germs, then hindi rin possible na by setting to a higher temperature eh hahaba ang i-stop. In my experience, usually setting ng AC ko is around 23-25 lang. Yun i-stop is shorter pag bagong bukas yun sasakyan, and longer pag stable na ang cabin temperature. Now, kung sasabihin natin na iseset ang temperature higher than 25, then it will only mean na matatagalan bago lumamig yun sasakyan, hence shorter i-stop duration. Tsaka ang i-stop usually 2 minutes lang ang duration.

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    #3084
    Well it's official. Toyota and Mazda announced their long term partnership.
    http://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-i...rtnership.html

    I wonder how they would call a re-badged M3. . .Toyoda 3 or Mazota 3?

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    #3085
    The partnership is about safety and fuel efficiency technology. Not about sharing vehicle designs or platforms.

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    #3086
    i-Stop is shorter when engines as just started because the capacitor has not yet built up enough energy not because of cabin temperature.

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    #3087
    I got confused by the earlier posting that i-stop is pretty much related/dependent on cabin temp, wherein as what I know airconditioning, from what I have read, it will still function properly when the i-stop is engaged.

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    #3088
    Quote Originally Posted by Aleman View Post
    I got confused by the earlier posting that i-stop is pretty much related/dependent on cabin temp, wherein as what I know airconditioning, from what I have read, it will still function properly when the i-stop is engaged.
    Hmm. . .how can the compressor run if the engine is off?
    Maybe the cabin temperature is among the parameters in controlling i-stop. It may also include data from sensors in battery charge level, engine temperature, etc.

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    #3089
    Wouldnt the reserve power on the i-loop (brakeforce energy recycle) be able to power the aircon?

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    #3090
    Quote Originally Posted by gwapster View Post
    Wouldnt the reserve power on the i-loop (brakeforce energy recycle) be able to power the aircon?
    Fan yes compressor no.

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    #3091
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Fan yes compressor no.
    With the intense heat here, it looks like too long on iStop e.g. in heavy traffic isnt gonna be comfortable.

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    #3092
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    The partnership is about safety and fuel efficiency technology. Not about sharing vehicle designs or platforms.
    That is precisely the objective of skyactive technology. And skyactive is comprehensive involving engine, drive and platform working in unison to achieve these objectives.

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    #3093
    Quote Originally Posted by gwapster View Post
    Wouldnt the reserve power on the i-loop (brakeforce energy recycle) be able to power the aircon?
    I believe the i-eloop is to help recharge the capacitor of the i-stop. Much energy is consumed in stop and go.

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    #3094
    The compressor still runs even if engine is off. That is what the i-Stop technology is about. That is why it will run for maximum of 2 minutes only. That is the amount of energy the capacitor can store. i-eLoop is regenerative braking technology. The capacitor recharged by the engine and the eLoop. So when you just started the engine, the capacitor has not yet fully charged so i-stop does not work as long. It's not because of the cabin temperature.

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    #3095
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    The compressor still runs even if engine is off. That is what the i-Stop technology is about. That is why it will run for maximum of 2 minutes only. That is the amount of energy the capacitor can store. i-eLoop is regenerative braking technology. The capacitor recharged by the engine and the eLoop. So when you just started the engine, the capacitor has not yet fully charged so i-stop does not work as long. It's not because of the cabin temperature.
    Nope, compressor is off. Blower lang talaga nagana kasi once i-stop kicks in, hangin lang ang nalabas sa vents. Residue nalang yun lamig na lumalabas.

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    #3096
    Quote Originally Posted by Louie Anson Ng View Post
    I inquired Mazda Q Ave for you, and out of stock na rin sila ng 2.0R. Kailan daw ang target date niyo?
    Hopefully daw by next month since i also requested the aluminum color. Sabi ko din sa SA, in case meron mauna na red speed, i can take it na lang.

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    #3097
    Now that would make i-stop a useless feature.

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    #3098
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Now that would make i-stop a useless feature.
    puede na rin... for very short periods. ... beats nothing at all.
    how many cars do we know, whose aircon blowers still function with the engine off?
    now, if we were to put in an electric motor to turn the compressor even with the engine off... but we'd probably need an extra battery, or a xxx-sized battery.

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    #3099
    yup. it makes sense if the compressor is not belt driven but electric motor driven.
    the stored energy can run the aircon for a limited time

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    #3100
    I think too much features in cars nowadays makes it all more costly and harder to maintain. Is all this really needed? Once it breaks down will cost us an arm and leg to have it replaced.

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