The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[altec]

started the car, then the aircon. Looked at the slot, wala talagang microfilter yung akin, a local sedona. Yung sa akin, June renewal. Emission test result only 0.25, passing is 2.5, with 2% biodiesel blend. In contrast, the Kia KC2700 namin na halos same month nabili, after change oil at 60K, scored 2.0. Sabi ng Kia, they did the right procedure. Their excust for the 2.0, baka daw yung makina ng emission center due for calibration. Galing no? (mag excuse)

[mikey177]

altec,

pareho ba yung makina ng KC2700 at Sedona?

mahusay pala talaga yung biodiesel para sa makina, mas mababa pa yung score mo sa akin Buti na lang nakakabawi ako dahil palagi akong highway driving kaya high-rev madalas ang makina ko, walang pagkakataon yung dumi na mag-accumulate.

[OTEP]

The KC2700 uses the Pregio engine.

[mikey177]

Thanks, Otep.

[diesoline]

my carnival went through emissions testing yesterday. i was pleasantly surprised by the results.

opacimeter: 0.00k
carbon monoxide: 0.01%
hydrocarbons: 30 ppm

last year when the then 6 month old carnival was tested at the same center, i remember being disappointed to learn that it scored higher in the opacimeter (1.45) than my 5 year old frontier (.95). i started using biodiesel when i first bought bioexceed from seaoil on december 2004. i used it intermittently at a liter for every full tank. to solve my biodiesel supply woes in baguio city, i bought a carbouy of senbel from garyq last march. since then the carnival ran on a senbel B2 blend.

sold na talaga ako sa effectiveness ng biodiesel in reducing emissions! i will post this in the biodiesel thread too.

[mikey177]

Hey, congratulations diesoline. It looks like biodiesel really helps to lower the emissions in our diesel engines. Sana makahanap tayo ng supplier na mas malapit sa atin --I use up about a full tank of diesel every four days so it wouldn't be economical for me to go all the way to Quezon City for my supply.

OT: one danger of travelling on the highway daily is that there's a greater probability of my vehicle getting hit by small pebbles and other debris from the cars in front of me. Last Monday, I had to get the windshield of my Sedona replaced for the SECOND TIME because it cracked Buti na lang may stock ngayon yung Wheels QC kaya hindi na ako naghintay ng ilang buwan bago mapalitan. They finished the replacement overnight, and I got my tint upgraded from Platinum to 3M thanks to my insurance company.

Here's a pic of the nasty crack...

[altec]

diesoline, I think nagkamali ang emission center sa iyo. If your unit is diesel, it is the opacimeter that is the basis. The gas analyzer column which states CO and HC levels apply only to gas engines. Your unit is surely a diesel pero ang reading nila under gas engines.

I verified this by getting our company's smoke emission test results, kasi yun ang pagkaalam ko.

Iba ang cutoff score kung naturally aspirated and turbo diesel engines. Iba rin ang score cutoff for areas above 1000M elevation, which is where you are!!

[diesoline]

altec: hmmm... my unit is a crdi diesel, i think i'd have to have a retest and inform the technicians at the same emissions center about that possibility. altec, in your diesel vehicles' emission test results are the readings for the gas analysis portion also zero? i'd assume that if the center is only after the opacimeter reading. i know for a fact that emissions results are greater in higher elevations -- baguio is 1400 meters above sea level -- that was why i was really surprised with my carnival's results. anyways, that retest is really in order.

re the microfilter, i think you can get one from fronte and install it in the slot. try mo lang.

mikey_177: it's really hard to get biodiesel in our part of the country. my carbouy of senbel toppled on the twisties in kennon road and some spilled on my carpet. by the time i reached our place and i checked on the spill, the rubber backing of the carpet has already deformed. nakakaasar! two weeks ago, i bought a 5 gallon wedco gasoline carrier from handyman on sale for P278. i decanted the remaining contents of the senbel carbouy to that. i suggest that you get one if you plan to stock on biodiesel too.

sorry to hear about your windshield. i have incurred cracked and broken windshields a total of six times since i started driving regularly on the mc arthur highway 15 years ago. buti na lang my last hit was about four years ago na. i am keeping my fingers crossed.

suki mo rin pala wheels. my visits there were always pleasant. libre pa kape!

[altec]

diesoline, yup, for diesel engines, only the opacimeter column has values, the gas analyzer column are all zero. For gas, its the other way around naman. Yung values nakalagay sa certificate mo, kulang. For your reference, the complete data for the opacimeter readings are:

< dec 31, 2002 nat-2.5, turbo-3.5 1000M elevation 4.5
>=jan 1, 2003 nat 1.2, tur 2.2, 1000M elevation 3.2

Dates are based on registration date. So any cars registered before dec31 2002, uses the 1st row figures. All cars registered 2003 and onwards, uses the 2nd row figures.

For me, stupid ruling. If they really want to provide the Filipinos with clean air via the clean air act, they shouldn't differentiate between old and new cars. Lumalabas, we are tolerating the old cars to smoke belch and pollute our air. If so, these cars don't belong in our roads in the 1st place!

[mikey177]

suki mo rin pala wheels. my visits there were always pleasant. libre pa kape!

Thanks, diesoline. I'll let you know if I find a biodiesel source closer to home.

And yes, Wheels has always given me good service ...their insurance claims personnel are quite easy on the eyes too