The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[yapoy86]

Hi Bro,

Oks ang analysis mo, I just added brake fluid (level was near Minimum)and the problem on the light indicator was gone...Maraming salamat!!!

bro have your brake pad linings and brake system for leaks.. your brake pads might be running thin making your fluid level at minimum..

[utakabo]

guys, my carnival has been my chief ride lately and it has been running good but i have been experiencing two issues with it:

1. my foremost concern is the starting system - it sometimes doesn't crank the engine right away but rather it emits a loud weird and irritating sound (somewhat similar to when you drag a heavy object on a rough surface but much louder) and sometimes followed by a sound as if something is slipping. although in occasions that it cranks the engine, the engine starts right away. my mechanic mentioned about the bendix drive probably slipping.

2. when the engine is running, the usual rhythmic "chaga-chaga-chaga" sound of a diesel engine is accompanied by squeaking sound (like new rubber shoes the first time you use it on the court). noticeably audible when the engine is cold then goes away as the engine heats up but lately the sound does not completely go away even when i have ran the car for up to 30 km. i initially suspected the cold weather but i am a little bit more alarmed now.

did anyone among you experience the same? any advices you can give. i am trying to delay a little bit going to the mechanic as my schedule is quite toxic these days, besides, i am planning to have my corolla repaired first before addressing the carnival's problem (just in case the two problems i have mentioned above turn out to be not too serious - although my intuition is telling me otherwise)

TIA

[yapoy86]

* utakabo:

1. Starter for carnival use 2 copper plates as contactors that acts as the starter switch. When your switch the key to start position, the starter solenoid is activated to push the starter gear to the flywheel. Then the solenoid will also trigger the starter itself by connecting the 2 copper plates. The solenoid applies force to the copper plates to ensure good contact, but the copper is not hard enough and therefore get thin in time resulting to poor contact. When this happens, the contacts will not be able to trigger the starter motor and sometimes will make that "chatter" noise

2. Have your crankshaft pulley checked for slipping. This is very common to cars aged 5 years or more. Or the least is the serpentine belt that needs changing..

[utakabo]

tnx sir yapoy for the very quick response

* utakabo:

1. Starter for carnival use 2 copper plates as contactors that acts as the starter switch. When your switch the key to start position, the starter solenoid is activated to push the starter gear to the flywheel. Then the solenoid will also trigger the starter itself by connecting the 2 copper plates. The solenoid applies force to the copper plates to ensure good contact, but the copper is not hard enough and therefore get thin in time resulting to poor contact. When this happens, the contacts will not be able to trigger the starter motor and sometimes will make that "chatter" noise

2. Have your crankshaft pulley checked for slipping. This is very common to cars aged 5 years or more. Or the least is the serpentine belt that needs changing..

i suddenly remember that a couple of members had posted the same problem before(if i remember correctly). where are these copper plates located sir, are they near the ignition switch or located near the motor itself?

all the belts are relatively new, i had them (timing, serpentine and the other fan belt) replaced only last year. so is it most likely the crankshaft pulley?

[diesoline]

1. Starter for carnival use 2 copper plates as contactors that acts as the starter switch. When your switch the key to start position, the starter solenoid is activated to push the starter gear to the flywheel. Then the solenoid will also trigger the starter itself by connecting the 2 copper plates. The solenoid applies force to the copper plates to ensure good contact, but the copper is not hard enough and therefore get thin in time resulting to poor contact. When this happens, the contacts will not be able to trigger the starter motor and sometimes will make that "chatter" noise

2. Have your crankshaft pulley checked for slipping. This is very common to cars aged 5 years or more. Or the least is the serpentine belt that needs changing..

thanks for this one. this reminded me to check on the belt. great info too on the workings of the starter.

Hi bro. Happy new year to you as well.

I hope you have time to post a photo of your Carnival with the white sidewall tires installed. I imagine them having an elegant, semi-classic look.

hi mikey, i finally reminded myself to get a pic of the car. i am ok with the looks of white-striped tires. what do you think?

but still, it's a pain to keep the white stripe pristine, especially in the front tires.



altec, any update on your sedona?

[aaalen]

Verify ko lang po kung ilang ang teeth ng Timing belt ng Kia Carnival model 2000, Yung 1st gen na J3 po ang makina. Kasi dalawang klase daw po yun. isang 151 tska 153, undecided ako kung ano ang bibilhin. Also yung Timing belt ng 4G63 as per mitsu maraming klase daw ng 4G63 Engine, ask nila kung pang anong modelo ang paggamitan ng Timing belt. Thanks!

[mcnubla]

mga sirs... unfortunately, i have another problem with my carnival and this time its the worst problem. after replacing the air filters, oil filters, fuel filters, ATF, cleaning intake manifold, cleaned turbo, replaced injectors... the cause of the problem is the automatic transmission.

hirap kasing humatak yung sasakyan ko... kailangan tapakan ko madiin yung accelerator para pumick-up... most of the time pinipindot ko pa yung hold or overdrive para bumilis. sobrang mausok din. bumaba ng bumaba yung consumption from 10/ltr to 7.5/ltr to now 5/ltr nalang.

na check na nung wheels sa e.rodriguez and kailangan na daw ibaba yung transmission. nag inquire ako ng bago/surplus na automatic transmission and its P40,000.

ang good news lang is umaandar pa sya kahit paano...

baka po may suggestion ko kung saan ko pwede paayos? iniisip ko sa fronte o kaya sa examiner. kasi sabi ng kasa, kailangan daw ng computer kaya nagdadalawang isip ako.

[altec]

Diesoline,

Hopeless na talaga ang kia casa dito sa amin. My car is not yet out. I paid another 5,400 to have it calibrated with parts replaced that I don't know, they won't show me the breakdown. When I got the unit, i noticed walang power. So returned it to them. Initially, they thought the timing was off and checked. They told me today that they are sending the injection pump AGAIN to their current calibration shop for backjob. Hay nakow, bobo talaga.

[yapoy86]

grabe naman yan.. yung carnival namin dati nabili namin 2nd hand (2001 model), ako lang ang nag maintain at palit ng mga worn out parts, 2years pa namin ginamit until trade in namin last year walang problema.. lakas humatak at kaya pa din sumabay sa mga bagong labas na sasakyan. hindi din mausok

[yapoy86]

Verify ko lang po kung ilang ang teeth ng Timing belt ng Kia Carnival model 2000, Yung 1st gen na J3 po ang makina. Kasi dalawang klase daw po yun. isang 151 tska 153, undecided ako kung ano ang bibilhin. Also yung Timing belt ng 4G63 as per mitsu maraming klase daw ng 4G63 Engine, ask nila kung pang anong modelo ang paggamitan ng Timing belt. Thanks!

yung carnival ko 2001 model 151 teeth.. bro i suggest you buy the original part CONTITECH ang brand Made in Germany.. nasa 3,500 pesos ang price nyan (maybe lower pa) iba kasi yung quality at hardness nung original timing belt.. remember that 4G63 is gas engine while J3 is diesel.. mabigat ang injection pump ng J3 kaya baka maputol lang ang timing belt na pang 4G63..

yung original timing belt ko andito pa sa akin nakatabi.. nagpalit ako nito at 90,000 kms, yung orig belt buong buo pa.. wala man lang signs na mapuputol na

[aaalen]

Thanks for the info bro. San ka nga pala nakabili ng Contitech na brand ng Timing belt? Thanks!

yung carnival ko 2001 model 151 teeth.. bro i suggest you buy the original part CONTITECH ang brand Made in Germany.. nasa 3,500 pesos ang price nyan (maybe lower pa) iba kasi yung quality at hardness nung original timing belt.. remember that 4G63 is gas engine while J3 is diesel.. mabigat ang injection pump ng J3 kaya baka maputol lang ang timing belt na pang 4G63..

yung original timing belt ko andito pa sa akin nakatabi.. nagpalit ako nito at 90,000 kms, yung orig belt buong buo pa.. wala man lang signs na mapuputol na

[ericmm]

Thanks for the info bro. San ka nga pala nakabili ng Contitech na brand ng Timing belt? Thanks!

Hi aaalen,

Just in case hindi ka pa nakakabili. I bought mine dati sa Karmelcon sa Banawe. You may call the shop at 7125518 and look for Jack.

[bonkjonks]

mga sirs, hope you can help me with my problem sa carnival ko, ayaw na mag shift ng transmission ng maayos, happened only today, habang pababa kasi ako sa flyover ng edsa was doing around 60 that time and may taxi sa harap ko, and sa kalokohan nung taxi e biglang huminto just after the flyover, and yun, break ako syempre, pero pag break ko, bigla na lang kumurogkog yung carnival, btw its a 2001LS A/T, and talagang sobrang vibrate, parang nasa roung rouad na malalaki ang bato, tought mawawala sya in a while kaso hindi na, so i decided to open my windows to hear of anything unusual, wala naman and napansin ko na parang ayaw ng magshift. then diretso ko lang while kinakabahan at baka itirik ako, then decided to stop at total station after kfc sa coastal kasi may rapide dun kaso sarado na, was 1030PM, then when i started the engine again, nawala na yung vibration kaso nga lang talagang ayaw na magshift like before, have to step up to 2500rpm para mag 2nd then 3000+ na for the third and hanggang dun na lang. Fortunately, was able to make it home. i i hope na you can help me guys about this, ive been back reading the previous pages pero wala pa akong makitang naging clear solution sa ganitong problema.. thanks in advance guys and sana lahat ng problema sa carnival natin e maayos..at sana din di sobrang mahal ng paayos...
thanks in advance...

[boquito]

break ako syempre, pero pag break ko, bigla na lang kumurogkog yung carnival, btw its a 2001LS A/T, and talagang sobrang vibrate, parang nasa roung rouad na malalaki ang bato, tought mawawala sya in a while kaso hindi na, thanks in advance...

sir bonkjonks: palagay ko yung kumurogkog ay yung ABS mo. Nagengage lang siya dahil biglang preno. Yung sa transmission naman mukhang yun na yon, kailangan ng palitan ng surplus.

[boquito]

Sorry guys for the long absence.

Yun namang sedona ko na m/t. hangang ngayon wala pa ring nakakasolve ng parang surge ng power after about 1 inch depression ng accelerator at reverse surge pag release din. Kung saan saan ko na dinala mula sa a/t experts hangang sa kasa. Okay naman ang mga c/v joints at slack ng accelerator cables. Sabi noong isa parang nag se"second power" daw, yung sa kasa naman kung ano ano ang ginawa in the end nadoon pa rin. Sabi nasa set-up daw ng front wheel big engined na diesel. dahil nakaperpendicular daw sa kotse yung engine pag nag gas daw at nag slight twist yung engine parang nagsusurge. Kaya daw yung ibang big diesel engined suv hindi ganoon dahil nakaparallel yung engine at pag nag twist hinde halata. Nakakainis lang sa highway pag release ko sa gas for slowing down napapasubsub kami ng konti tapos pag tapak mo ulit mag biglang hahatak din ng konti. Ganito din ba ang mga rides nyo. Thanks in advance.

[sayuri]

hello guys!

just like the author of this thread, i have to give up my jimny 4x4 for a bigger car since that my wife is now going three months pregnant. and i am planning to get a mini-van.

i read reviews about the venture and 8 out of 10 reviews, they say that it is not good, and told me just to get a kia sedona.

now, i heard good reviews of sedona. someone actually is selling me kia sedona, local purchased, 2002 model, all power, AT, etc . . . under 89k Kms, casa maintained.

can you please help me with my questions:

what problems will i encounter with the kia sedona?

where do i get parts?

should i have it repaired sa casa? or sa friendly neighbor mekaniko? thanks.

[utakabo]

sir yapoy thanks alot! i had my ride serviced today - the squeaking sound was due to loose belt (i asked the mechanic to check also the crankshaft pulley) and the starting problem is gone (for now- knock on wood hehehe, i still have to observe). nagpalit lang ng solenoid kit, i don't know if it's the same as the copper plates you mentioned. anyway, total damage is 300 pesos including labor and the 75 pesos solenoid kit.

sayuri welcome to the thread. back read ka lang, a lot of problems have been discussed (try using the search tool and enter "problem" as key word)- from starting problem, to oil pump, timing chain and the likes. If you are in NCR, usual source is banawe (fronte, karmelcon) and pasay (goodgear). you can also order from fellow tsikoter jay castillo. their contact numbers have been mentioned several times in the thread (again just use the search tool).

[yapoy86]

nagpalit lang ng solenoid kit, i don't know if it's the same as the copper plates you mentioned. anyway, total damage is 300 pesos including labor and the 75 pesos solenoid kit.

yun na nga po yung solenoid kit.. its just 2 copper plates in an L shape

now, i heard good reviews of sedona. someone actually is selling me kia sedona, local purchased, 2002 model, all power, AT, etc . . . under 89k Kms, casa maintained.

sedona is OK.. one good thing about kia carnivals have known problems with known solutions.. you just need to ask the right question..

i suggest you have a good test drive of the vehicle..

Sorry guys for the long absence.

Yun namang sedona ko na m/t. hangang ngayon wala pa ring nakakasolve ng parang surge ng power after about 1 inch depression ng accelerator at reverse surge pag release din. Kung saan saan ko na dinala mula sa a/t experts hangang sa kasa. Okay naman ang mga c/v joints at slack ng accelerator cables. Sabi noong isa parang nag se"second power" daw, yung sa kasa naman kung ano ano ang ginawa in the end nadoon pa rin. Sabi nasa set-up daw ng front wheel big engined na diesel. dahil nakaperpendicular daw sa kotse yung engine pag nag gas daw at nag slight twist yung engine parang nagsusurge. Kaya daw yung ibang big diesel engined suv hindi ganoon dahil nakaparallel yung engine at pag nag twist hinde halata. Nakakainis lang sa highway pag release ko sa gas for slowing down napapasubsub kami ng konti tapos pag tapak mo ulit mag biglang hahatak din ng konti. Ganito din ba ang mga rides nyo. Thanks in advance.

bro have your accelerator cables adjusted... dapat medyo batak.. wag malaki ang slack...

also check your engine supports and replace if necessary..

also have your injectors cleaned and calibrated..

one possible cause of that your transmission already developed "backlash" or excessive free play.. try this test.. on a flat surface with the engine OFF, put your transmission in first gear release the foot brake.. push the vehicle back and forth, then observe for that backlash..you will notice your vehicle will move too much even the transmission is engaged..

just control how you step on the accelerator to avoid the surge..

[celd15b]

hi tsikoteers, ask ko lang kung san located ang IM ng carnival? balak ko kasi baklasin at linsin DIY...pati ung throttle body....

ung turbo din pala madali lang ba baklasin para malinis din...tnx


also anybody knows kung san located ang speed sensor ng carnival?


many tnx...again..

[benchph1]

Sorry guys for the long absence.

Yun namang sedona ko na m/t. hangang ngayon wala pa ring nakakasolve ng parang surge ng power after about 1 inch depression ng accelerator at reverse surge pag release din. Kung saan saan ko na dinala mula sa a/t experts hangang sa kasa. Okay naman ang mga c/v joints at slack ng accelerator cables. Sabi noong isa parang nag se"second power" daw, yung sa kasa naman kung ano ano ang ginawa in the end nadoon pa rin. Sabi nasa set-up daw ng front wheel big engined na diesel. dahil nakaperpendicular daw sa kotse yung engine pag nag gas daw at nag slight twist yung engine parang nagsusurge. Kaya daw yung ibang big diesel engined suv hindi ganoon dahil nakaparallel yung engine at pag nag twist hinde halata. Nakakainis lang sa highway pag release ko sa gas for slowing down napapasubsub kami ng konti tapos pag tapak mo ulit mag biglang hahatak din ng konti. Ganito din ba ang mga rides nyo. Thanks in advance.

Ang galing naman nila para i-claim na dahil sa design, ang dahilan ng sudden surge ng carnival mo. sus.

E bakit kaming lahat wala naman niyang problema na yan. yan ang sabihin mo sa nagsabi niyan.

crossed out ng ang mechanical parts such as cv joints, transmission, isa na lang ang naiisip ko. fuel delivery. either fuel lines, fuel filter, injectors or ecu. yes, may ecu ang carnival. nasa front passenger kick panel.