The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[kenzie]

bro. wild rpm happen to our pregio. the culprit was a broken spring behind the rotor head. in my wife fuego. engine won't idle and just die. also due to a broken spring. if it happends again you might need to have your injection pump checked/ overhauled to see for damage.

nako naman talga kahet anong alaga sa Carnival talagang sirain ... ako 1.5 years ko din inalagaan yun carnival like my eldest kid pero bale wala talagaing sirain kaya no other choice but to SELL it.....

at the end of the day its not worth keeping the van if you don't have enuf moolah to take care of it every so often(like every 1 week). sad but that's what hapend to me...

[celd15b]

bro. wild rpm happen to our pregio. the culprit was a broken spring behind the rotor head. in my wife fuego. engine won't idle and just die. also due to a broken spring. if it happends again you might need to have your injection pump checked/ overhauled to see for damage.

yikes...injection pump...mahal ba mag paayos nun?

un na ba ung calibration? or iba pa un?


tnx sa quick reply..

[mintoy]

yikes...injection pump...mahal ba mag paayos nun?

un na ba ung calibration? or iba pa un?


tnx sa quick reply..

the spring should not be expensive but just pray that it did not affect the rotor head. sa pregio namin. it never ran the same. bunagal sya until i changed the rotor head years after. SOP and calibration once the injection pump is overhauled. FYI, sa suke kong calibraion. labor for overhaul is 1,200. calibration is 400. total cost will depend on what parts they will have to replace.

[celd15b]

the spring should not be expensive but just pray that it did not affect the rotor head. sa pregio namin. it never ran the same. bunagal sya until i changed the rotor head years after. SOP and calibration once the injection pump is overhauled. FYI, sa suke kong calibraion. labor for overhaul is 1,200. calibration is 400. total cost will depend on what parts they will have to replace.

sir pwede po ba malaman ang suki nyong calibration shop?
ung pinagtanungan ko kasi na shop somewhere in marcos hiway--petron..

labor palang nila is whopping 6-7k petot....


how much po inabot nung total cost nung sa inyo?

also, ano po tawag sa spring na un? where is it connected?

tnx sir...

[mintoy]

sir pwede po ba malaman ang suki nyong calibration shop?
ung pinagtanungan ko kasi na shop somewhere in marcos hiway--petron..

labor palang nila is whopping 6-7k petot....


how much po inabot nung total cost nung sa inyo?

also, ano po tawag sa spring na un? where is it connected?

tnx sir...

bro, the costings was for our pregio which i had calibrated 2 month ago. i have not asked kung magkano ang labor sa sedona. its possible na mas mahal kasi masikip ang engine compartment ng sedona. total cost was 15k for calibration, rotor head and nozzel tips replacement.

fyi, accoridng to my sukeng calibration. nozzels of kia sedona is 32k for a set of 4. my suke is jc calibration in upper bicutan.

[carnibal]

meron na po ba sa inyo naka encounter ng case kung saan meron presence ng diesel dun sa labas/taas ng injectors? ano kaya cause nun. thanks

[celd15b]

bro, the costings was for our pregio which i had calibrated 2 month ago. i have not asked kung magkano ang labor sa sedona. its possible na mas mahal kasi masikip ang engine compartment ng sedona. total cost was 15k for calibration, rotor head and nozzel tips replacement.

fyi, accoridng to my sukeng calibration. nozzels of kia sedona is 32k for a set of 4. my suke is jc calibration in upper bicutan.

does the nozzels have to be replaced when availing calibration? or pag sira lang? how do u know if it needs to be replaced?


also san nakalagay ung "spring" na tinutukoy nyo sir?

tnx again

[taz]

masters... nagtataka lang ako dahil kaka change-oil lang namin sa Carnival M/T, wala pang 1 month maitim na agad ang langis, at mausok. Dahil din dun masakit sa ilong ang amoy ng langis pag naka start na engine..... ganun ba talaga?

[taz]

masters... nagtataka lang ako dahil kaka change-oil lang namin sa Carnival M/T, wala pang 1 month maitim na agad ang langis, at mausok. Dahil din dun masakit sa ilong ang amoy ng langis pag naka start na engine..... ganun ba talaga?

[jadeplanas]

meron na po ba sa inyo naka encounter ng case kung saan meron presence ng diesel dun sa labas/taas ng injectors? ano kaya cause nun. thanks

yung return hose baka po maluwag na need to replace and yung injectors may leak kaya napupuno ng fuel yung sa rail area.

[carnibal]

yung return hose baka po maluwag na need to replace and yung injectors may leak kaya napupuno ng fuel yung sa rail area.

yep, luma na nga yung return hose. kaya pinapalitan ko rin nung araw na yun. pero after a long drive, meron ulit. baka nga yung injector na yung sira, sayang mahusay pa naman yung nozzle tips kasi wala pa usok. hanap nalang siguro ako ng surplus.

thanks

[mintoy]

does the nozzels have to be replaced when availing calibration? or pag sira lang? how do u know if it needs to be replaced?


also san nakalagay ung "spring" na tinutukoy nyo sir?

tnx again

hi sir, rule of thunb is kung mauso, have the nozzel tips checked and cleaned. kung loss of power/ poor accelaration, then injection pump.

nozzels may need to be replaced it after cleaning. it still will not show the proper spray pattern. according to my suke. the injectors cost 32k for a set of 4 injectors.

[mintoy]

yep, luma na nga yung return hose. kaya pinapalitan ko rin nung araw na yun. pero after a long drive, meron ulit. baka nga yung injector na yung sira, sayang mahusay pa naman yung nozzle tips kasi wala pa usok. hanap nalang siguro ako ng surplus.

thanks

hi sir, its possible na sira lang ang seal sa nozzel. hindi ko lang alam kung copper washer or rubber o-ring ang gamit ng makina ng sedona. this seal is not part of the injectors. calibration shop can remove the injector and replace the seal.

[bonkjonks]

hi sir, its possible na sira lang ang seal sa nozzel. hindi ko lang alam kung copper washer or rubber o-ring ang gamit ng makina ng sedona. this seal is not part of the injectors. calibration shop can remove the injector and replace the seal.

sa carnival po rubber o-ring lang ang gamit. pwede mahila injector pataas medyo matigas nga lang pero nahuhugot then palitan na yung o-ring, wala naman problema pagbabalik and as long as tama ang pagkalagay ng injector bracket (yung parang-y shape) wala ng tatagas na langis, kakagawa ko lang ng sakin, nabali ko nga lang yung dalawang injector bracket sa sobrang hikit ng pagturnilyo ko. cost me 45 petot each for the two injector brackets, and 0 petot for the labor, syempre DIY lang.

[andy_navy24]

Hi Im considering buying a 2003 kia sedona. This will be my first korean made purchase and im a little skeptical. The sedona has a automatic transmission, dual aircon, skyroof, SRS Airbags, power lock doors, LCD TV, stereo/ cd, captain chairs & fog lamps. Iv read most of the tread on the sedona but there is so much to read I was wondering what are the pros and cons of the sedona? How is it Maintenance & Repair wise? How is the quality of the interior and workmanship? thanks again

[mintoy]

Hi Im considering buying a 2003 kia sedona. This will be my first korean made purchase and im a little skeptical. The sedona has a automatic transmission, dual aircon, skyroof, SRS Airbags, power lock doors, LCD TV, stereo/ cd, captain chairs & fog lamps. Iv read most of the tread on the sedona but there is so much to read I was wondering what are the pros and cons of the sedona? How is it Maintenance & Repair wise? How is the quality of the interior and workmanship? thanks again

bro, its a good car. but be prepared to spend a lot when you have to change parts of the engine (timing belt set, nozzels...etc). but the suspension and body parts are affordable. one common complaint of the sedona is the smoke belching at idling and low rpm.

[bonkjonks]

mga sir ask ko lang po bakit po kaya yung rpm nung carnival ko pag idling e tumatalon talon, na parang tumataas baba, tsaka po pag umabot na ng 80kph e nagvivibrate na po yung sasakyan pero pag nasa 100 na po e humihina na yung vibrate.. pls help naman po sa mga nakakaalam...mahina rin po ang hatak.

[way22]

Hi Im considering buying a 2003 kia sedona. This will be my first korean made purchase and im a little skeptical. The sedona has a automatic transmission, dual aircon, skyroof, SRS Airbags, power lock doors, LCD TV, stereo/ cd, captain chairs & fog lamps. Iv read most of the tread on the sedona but there is so much to read I was wondering what are the pros and cons of the sedona? How is it Maintenance & Repair wise? How is the quality of the interior and workmanship? thanks again

Hi, I agreed with mintoy it is a good car but time to time it need maintenance. I have a 2002 Carnival Park II since 2004. with all the years, I went through some problems with the car. Like the alternator, you have to check that the terminal (specially the screw that attched the terminal to the body of the alternator) will not get loose. If it get loose, you will get a lot of problem as I had experienced. The voltage went up to 18V which might burn your ECU. Luckily I didn't but I have to change the alternator and a cocking device for the airbag. Untill now time to time I have to tighten the screw. It get loose due to the vibration of the engine. You can avoid a lot of problem if you maintain properly the alternator. If you hear a clinking sound from a cold starting and it goes off after few seconds, you may need to consider immediately to change the oil pump and some accessories goes with it like timing belt, tensioner etc. But so far I learned that you have to change these every 70Tkm. I got the problem of hard starting also but it was solved by changing the fuel filter/manual pump. But I never got the problem of injector/nozzles. To avoid smoke belching, maybe you can remove the vaccuum hose to the EGR but you have to plug the hose. So far these are the major problems that I can remember.

[mintoy]

Hi, I agreed with mintoy it is a good car but time to time it need maintenance. I have a 2002 Carnival Park II since 2004. with all the years, I went through some problems with the car. Like the alternator, you have to check that the terminal (specially the screw that attched the terminal to the body of the alternator) will not get loose. If it get loose, you will get a lot of problem as I had experienced. The voltage went up to 18V which might burn your ECU. Luckily I didn't but I have to change the alternator and a cocking device for the airbag. Untill now time to time I have to tighten the screw. It get loose due to the vibration of the engine. You can avoid a lot of problem if you maintain properly the alternator. If you hear a clinking sound from a cold starting and it goes off after few seconds, you may need to consider immediately to change the oil pump and some accessories goes with it like timing belt, tensioner etc. But so far I learned that you have to change these every 70Tkm. I got the problem of hard starting also but it was solved by changing the fuel filter/manual pump. But I never got the problem of injector/nozzles. To avoid smoke belching, maybe you can remove the vaccuum hose to the EGR but you have to plug the hose. So far these are the major problems that I can remember.

bro, i had some alternator problems too. akala ko nagka problema sa airbag and abs cuz they kept on lighting up + battery keeps on draining. brought it to kia tramo. they has to replace the IC of the alternator. i got a brand new IC from goodgear. it was cheaper than casa.

maybe adding a lock washer in the scews will help prevent then from loosening.

[way22]

bro, i had some alternator problems too. akala ko nagka problema sa airbag and abs cuz they kept on lighting up + battery keeps on draining. brought it to kia tramo. they has to replace the IC of the alternator. i got a brand new IC from goodgear. it was cheaper than casa.

maybe adding a lock washer in the scews will help prevent then from loosening.

Yes, last time when I had problem with the alternator as the terminal get loose and the voltage shot up to 18V, my airbag & abs lights all lite up. I replaced a good surplus alternator and I have the defective one repaired too. When you wire from the battery going to the alternator get hot specially at the terminal of the alternator which meant the it is getting loose. You have to tighten it specially the side screw which you can not see. This screw hold the terminal bolt to the internal field wire of the alternator. I found this out after all the trouble with the alternator. Hope this can help other Carnival user to prevent some problems.