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    #71
    Is the Carens a competitor to the Innova or Avanza? Upon looking on its stats, the Carens seems to be closer to the Innova size-wise.

    Carens Innova

    Overall Length 4545 4555 mm
    Overall Width 1800 1770 mm
    Overall Height 1650 1745 mm
    Wheelbase 2700 2750 mm
    Tread (Front/Rear) 1573/1569 1510 / 1510 mm
    Curb Weight 1545-1595 1585-1685 kg
    Last edited by Revenant; March 29th, 2007 at 01:31 AM. Reason: Added the stats fir curb weight.

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    #72
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    Getz, Starex and Santa Fe sir, my brother's, my dad's 2nd car and mine respectively. all CRDi engines.

    we still have an 8-yr old 1st gen CRV in possession, although love namin coz never kami pinasakit ang ulo, it's getting more expensive to maintain kasi nagsisimula na ang wear and tear ng major parts. and gasoline medyo lakas sa gas.

    if we will decide to replace it, baka Kia Sportage CRDi pag dumating dito. kakasuya na kasi kung Tucson, puro Hyundai na hehehe


    if you want alternative sedans, you can try the accent or the matrix. we originally thought of getting the matrix instead of the starex, kaya lang MT eh. yun accent yata ok, medyo madami meron sa Manila neto.
    I am also thinking of the Sportage CRDi as a second car. I like the Sportage's styling better than the Tucson plus the safety features. I am going to the MIA on Saturday to take a look at it.

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    #73
    My Korean-surplus-third hand Kia Carnival Park II cools better than a 1st gen CR-V, according to it's owner. No to mention rear-riding passenger often complain about A/C being too cold.

    Oh, and I've never overheated the Carnival either.

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    #74
    mali pala matching ko. we cant compare avanza to carens. i saw a lot of carens videos in youtube. ganda talaga.

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    #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Revenant View Post
    Is the Carens a competitor to the Innova or Avanza? Upon looking on its stats, the Carens seems to be closer to the Innova size-wise.

    Carens Innova

    Overall Length 4545 4555 mm
    Overall Width 1800 1770 mm
    Overall Height 1650 1745 mm
    Wheelbase 2700 2750 mm
    Tread (Front/Rear) 1573/1569 1510 / 1510 mm
    Curb Weight 1545-1595 1585-1685 kg

    Strange, the Innova actually feels wider inside... might be due to the more compact rear suspension, as the Carens third row is impinged by the shock towers. But it's been quite a while since we saw the Carens on display... if it really is Innova-class in size, but with MPV refinement, it should sell well... if people are willing to give it a chance.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #76
    Quote Originally Posted by eggman View Post
    Eto ang variants at prices ng Carens:

    2.0 LX M/T=777,000

    2.0 LX A/T=827,000

    2.0 EX A/T=970,000

    Ok lang kahit walang CDI variant for now....
    sir pwedeng malaman kung sang dealer yung quote nyo?

    i was just quoted 868k for LX A/T and 995K for the EX A/T

    thanks!

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    #77
    Quote Originally Posted by JuneT View Post
    sir pwedeng malaman kung sang dealer yung quote nyo?

    i was just quoted 868k for LX A/T and 995K for the EX A/T

    thanks!
    Ngek! Ano eto, price increase "strategy" nanaman?!

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    #78
    I would expect the Carens to have more refinement than the Innova, as it's a unibody vehicle versus the ladder-frame Innova.

    The price of 777k for the entry-level manual tranny seems too good to be true, but if true, it should be a best seller.

    If the price is close to 900k, I don't think it will have much traction against the Innova E. As far as I can see, the Carens value proposition vs the Innova is, you get more car (i.e. all power features in the entry-level version) for the same amount of money.

    But if the entry-level M/T hits 900k that puts it in Innova E territory, which matches it feature for feature. At 777k a lot of people would choose the Carens over the bare-bones Innova J, but at say 880k.. hard-sell.

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    #79
    Quote Originally Posted by orly_andico View Post
    I would expect the Carens to have more refinement than the Innova, as it's a unibody vehicle versus the ladder-frame Innova.
    Indeed. The Carens also has a fully independent suspension making it more of a minivan with a shortened wheelbase instead of an AUV.

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    #80
    was in the motorshow yesterday....ala akong nakitang KIA booth dun..

    for the prices....the initial prices like P777K was indicative pricing lang daw according sa KIA MOTORS Paco.....sa actual landed cost..dagdag daw ng P20-40K

    hmmm.....

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