2007 Kia Carens [ARCHIVE]

[oldblue]

yes i've been saying this since last year pa. value for money talaga ang mga korean cars ngaun. while others are still buying the japs and spending more, kami mga naka-korean cars laki na ng natitipid and korean cars still function as point A to B without problems

our family has 3 korean crdi's na. sulit na sulit, sa fuel, sa maintenance at puwedeng-pwede sa road conditions natin.

cars today are like cellphones, hindi na pang status quo di tulad noon araw. nowadays, even a yuppie can get a car by installment like cellphones. dapat practical hehehe

[minero]

yes i've been saying this since last year pa. value for money talaga ang mga korean cars ngaun. while others are still buying the japs and spending more, kami mga naka-korean cars laki na ng natitipid and korean cars still function as point A to B without problems

our family has 3 korean crdi's na. sulit na sulit, sa fuel, sa maintenance at puwedeng-pwede sa road conditions natin.

cars today are like cellphones, hindi na pang status quo di tulad noon araw. nowadays, even a yuppie can get a car by installment like cellphones. dapat practical hehehe

sir oldblue, ano ano other korean cars niyo? i have a santa fe like you but i want to replace my sentra as an alternate car. like you i am sold to korean cars for value for money and practicality. i heard a lot of raves about hyundai crdi engines but i have no first hand experiance kasi gas santa fe nabili ko. this time i want a crdi. it might be worth waiting for a crdi carens

[raquino]

the starex.. 2000 - 2003 models.. prone sa overheat.. weak a/c..
The steering squeals when making turns. acceleration of the santa fe v6 engine is is the same with the all new mitsubishi outlander.. id rather prefer the outlander coz of its fuel economy.

service parts is quite limited..

not all starexes are prone to overheating. yhis all depends on proper maintenance. i never overheated in my 2001 starex, never brokedown nor changed major parts. i'm very much satisfied with my starex and the aircon is very good. my kids often turns off the back aircon during long travels dahil sobra daw lamig. had other vans before and nothing compares to the starex.

[OTEP]

Satisfied din ako dun sa '03 Starex. Hindi ko na nga pinapaandar yung a/c sa likod minsan. Mas malamig pa sa dating Pajero ko yung aircon. Wala din overheat except nung masira yung aux fans (which are pretty easy to fix).

The Carens looks promising. Sana meron sa car show this weekend.

[eggman]

Nasa show ang Carens 2.0 liter LX and EX kasama nya yung Carnival 2.9 CRDI EX at Sportage CDRI 4WD...

[niky]

yes i've been saying this since last year pa. value for money talaga ang mga korean cars ngaun. while others are still buying the japs and spending more, kami mga naka-korean cars laki na ng natitipid and korean cars still function as point A to B without problems

our family has 3 korean crdi's na. sulit na sulit, sa fuel, sa maintenance at puwedeng-pwede sa road conditions natin.

cars today are like cellphones, hindi na pang status quo di tulad noon araw. nowadays, even a yuppie can get a car by installment like cellphones. dapat practical hehehe

Yun nga... who would've thought back in the 90's na hindi na leader ang Motorola now?

And who would've thought nung 2000 na magiging astig ulit ang Ericcson?

[a4Tech]

Nasa show ang Carens 2.0 liter LX and EX kasama nya yung Carnival 2.9 CRDI EX at Sportage CDRI 4WD...

Saan po location ng show?

[niky]

Dito yung info:
Manila Motorshow 2007 Thread

[oldblue]

sir oldblue, ano ano other korean cars niyo? i have a santa fe like you but i want to replace my sentra as an alternate car. like you i am sold to korean cars for value for money and practicality. i heard a lot of raves about hyundai crdi engines but i have no first hand experiance kasi gas santa fe nabili ko. this time i want a crdi. it might be worth waiting for a crdi carens

Getz, Starex and Santa Fe sir, my brother's, my dad's 2nd car and mine respectively. all CRDi engines.

we still have an 8-yr old 1st gen CRV in possession, although love namin coz never kami pinasakit ang ulo, it's getting more expensive to maintain kasi nagsisimula na ang wear and tear ng major parts. and gasoline medyo lakas sa gas.

if we will decide to replace it, baka Kia Sportage CRDi pag dumating dito. kakasuya na kasi kung Tucson, puro Hyundai na hehehe


if you want alternative sedans, you can try the accent or the matrix. we originally thought of getting the matrix instead of the starex, kaya lang MT eh. yun accent yata ok, medyo madami meron sa Manila neto.

[orly_andico]

is it really 777k for the 2.0L M/T with no safety features?

if true, that's a fantastic bargain! i'd get one over an Innova J in a heartbeat. almost same price and you don't have to deal with the indignities of "pawis" windows.

and it's not a body-on-frame vehicle. while body-on-frame is good in some ways (high ground clearance, better bulk-carrying capacity) it's also bad in the sense that you'll never get rid of those creaks and squeaks.

so when is this thing going to be sold here?

[Revenant]

Is the Carens a competitor to the Innova or Avanza? Upon looking on its stats, the Carens seems to be closer to the Innova size-wise.

Carens Innova

Overall Length 4545 4555 mm
Overall Width 1800 1770 mm
Overall Height 1650 1745 mm
Wheelbase 2700 2750 mm
Tread (Front/Rear) 1573/1569 1510 / 1510 mm
Curb Weight 1545-1595 1585-1685 kg

[minero]

Getz, Starex and Santa Fe sir, my brother's, my dad's 2nd car and mine respectively. all CRDi engines.

we still have an 8-yr old 1st gen CRV in possession, although love namin coz never kami pinasakit ang ulo, it's getting more expensive to maintain kasi nagsisimula na ang wear and tear ng major parts. and gasoline medyo lakas sa gas.

if we will decide to replace it, baka Kia Sportage CRDi pag dumating dito. kakasuya na kasi kung Tucson, puro Hyundai na hehehe


if you want alternative sedans, you can try the accent or the matrix. we originally thought of getting the matrix instead of the starex, kaya lang MT eh. yun accent yata ok, medyo madami meron sa Manila neto.

I am also thinking of the Sportage CRDi as a second car. I like the Sportage's styling better than the Tucson plus the safety features. I am going to the MIA on Saturday to take a look at it.

[DacoTyan]

My Korean-surplus-third hand Kia Carnival Park II cools better than a 1st gen CR-V, according to it's owner. No to mention rear-riding passenger often complain about A/C being too cold.

Oh, and I've never overheated the Carnival either.

[freespin]

mali pala matching ko. we cant compare avanza to carens. i saw a lot of carens videos in youtube. ganda talaga.

[niky]

Is the Carens a competitor to the Innova or Avanza? Upon looking on its stats, the Carens seems to be closer to the Innova size-wise.

Carens Innova

Overall Length 4545 4555 mm
Overall Width 1800 1770 mm
Overall Height 1650 1745 mm
Wheelbase 2700 2750 mm
Tread (Front/Rear) 1573/1569 1510 / 1510 mm
Curb Weight 1545-1595 1585-1685 kg

Strange, the Innova actually feels wider inside... might be due to the more compact rear suspension, as the Carens third row is impinged by the shock towers. But it's been quite a while since we saw the Carens on display... if it really is Innova-class in size, but with MPV refinement, it should sell well... if people are willing to give it a chance.

[JuneT]

Eto ang variants at prices ng Carens:

2.0 LX M/T=777,000

2.0 LX A/T=827,000

2.0 EX A/T=970,000

Ok lang kahit walang CDI variant for now....

sir pwedeng malaman kung sang dealer yung quote nyo?

i was just quoted 868k for LX A/T and 995K for the EX A/T

thanks!

[ryan]

sir pwedeng malaman kung sang dealer yung quote nyo?

i was just quoted 868k for LX A/T and 995K for the EX A/T

thanks!

Ngek! Ano eto, price increase "strategy" nanaman?!

[orly_andico]

I would expect the Carens to have more refinement than the Innova, as it's a unibody vehicle versus the ladder-frame Innova.

The price of 777k for the entry-level manual tranny seems too good to be true, but if true, it should be a best seller.

If the price is close to 900k, I don't think it will have much traction against the Innova E. As far as I can see, the Carens value proposition vs the Innova is, you get more car (i.e. all power features in the entry-level version) for the same amount of money.

But if the entry-level M/T hits 900k that puts it in Innova E territory, which matches it feature for feature. At 777k a lot of people would choose the Carens over the bare-bones Innova J, but at say 880k.. hard-sell.

[Revenant]

I would expect the Carens to have more refinement than the Innova, as it's a unibody vehicle versus the ladder-frame Innova.

Indeed. The Carens also has a fully independent suspension making it more of a minivan with a shortened wheelbase instead of an AUV.

[acespino2000]

was in the motorshow yesterday....ala akong nakitang KIA booth dun..

for the prices....the initial prices like P777K was indicative pricing lang daw according sa KIA MOTORS Paco.....sa actual landed cost..dagdag daw ng P20-40K

hmmm.....