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    #441
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    Bro.,- thank you so much for being upfront in the thread. I am sure the group here appreciates that...

    I must admit thought that I am flushed... Don't want to say anything more...

    Again, thanks so much bro.

    4000:play_ball:
    Finally, I've been to Hyundai Global City kahapon to see the grand starex. Hindi na nga talaga pwedeng lagyan ng roof rack kasi sobra ng matangkad. Hindi na madadala sa covered parking ng mga mall!!! I found the grand starex living up to it's promises, upgraded in size, look, and amenities, but it's sad to see that the 3 most important factor for safety missing-- the power side mirror, power central lock, rear wiper, aren't present in their entry level. They must include these as standards on every variant. The SA told me there's no SWB version, the 10 seater is also configured on the same bulky body of 12 seater. Also, mas maganda din sana kung nafo- fold yung back seats para pwede pa din kami magsakay ng sacks of rice, monoblock chairs, bulky boxes, or everything bulky na mabibili ng tita ko sa divisoria at baclaran!!! LOL. It can't be that versatile anymore, hindi na pwede pang passenger eh pang- cargo pa. Hindi ko na pati matatawag na SUV yan (Sport Utility Van)kasi parang sobrang liit ng air scoop para sa turbo nya. Iisa na din ang aux fan.

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    #442
    Guys my pics na ba kayo nung m/t CRDi variant ng grand starex? we haven't been to the showrooms yet... and my dad's already drooling to see one. pwede ba paki describe? may beige interior ba besides the black one that ive seen sa car show? ^^

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    #443
    Quote Originally Posted by xTrememan View Post
    Guys my pics na ba kayo nung m/t CRDi variant ng grand starex? we haven't been to the showrooms yet... and my dad's already drooling to see one. pwede ba paki describe? may beige interior ba besides the black one that ive seen sa car show? ^^

    By november pa daw dadating dito sa atin ang CRDI versions, currently eh TCI M/T pa lang ang available dito, Long wheelbase, 12 seater, 2.5 turbo intercooled diesel, 101 bhp, very disappointing kasi dami kulang, walang power window, central lock, at rear wiper. Parang compromised ang safety!Pero mas malaki sa dating starex. Boxy. Anlaki. Parang Hiace Grandia kalaki. malinis tingnan ang harapan. Gaganda ng seats, 2 sliding doors, ang rear aircon vents ay nakatapat na sa ulo ng mga passengers, sliding ang upuan sa tabi ng sliding door at kahulihang row para ma-adjust pag papasok ang mga tao. Nasa gitna ang jump seats kaya hindi siya kasing- convenient pasukin hindi gaya ng dating starex. Gray ang kulay ng dashboard. Nasa center console ng dashboard na ang kambyo, kaya kelangang dikit ang driver sa steering wheel pag nagda- drive kasi anlayo nga ng kambyo di tulad ng dati. Very basic ang features ng power outlet, cupholders, secret pockets, 2 glove boxes, manual dual aircon, cd-radio-sd card car stereo head unit, kapal pati ng gilid para sa mga pockets at cupholders din. This new grand starex has far great newer look but more adjustments and sacrifices required for it's new owners!!!

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    #444
    i-email kaya natin HARI para ayusin nila seating layout ng grand starex? pati na rin yung price... masyadong overpriced kasi eh....

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    #445
    I hope our feedback on the long list of shortcomings of the introductory model of the Grand Starex reaches the bosses at HARI. We are all (or mostly) present owners of Starex vans so I hope they listen to us (customers).

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    #446
    i can't e-mail HARI coz their website is down... tsktsktsk.... maybe we could e-mail someone from the motoring journalism world so they could air our grievances to the HARI big bosses

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    #447
    yan ba bago starex, naiikot para magkaharap ang 2nd row and 3rd row. para puwede mag-meeting on the road

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    #448
    . Also, mas maganda din sana kung nafo- fold yung back seats para pwede pa din kami magsakay ng sacks of rice, monoblock chairs, bulky boxes, or everything bulky na mabibili ng tita ko sa divisoria at baclaran!!! LOL. It can't be that versatile anymore, hindi na pwede pang passenger eh pang- cargo pa. Hindi ko na pati matatawag na SUV yan (Sport Utility Van)kasi parang sobrang liit ng air scoop para sa turbo nya. Iisa na din ang aux fan.

    For the 12-seater, which I was able to inspect, I remember that you can slide the 4th row of seat and fold it for additional cargo space.... And yes, I don't think that that 3rd row of seat can be folded....

    4101:victory:


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    #449
    Quote Originally Posted by feeter View Post
    By november pa daw dadating dito sa atin ang CRDI versions, currently eh TCI M/T pa lang ang available dito, Long wheelbase, 12 seater, 2.5 turbo intercooled diesel, 101 bhp, very disappointing kasi dami kulang, walang power window, central lock, at rear wiper. Parang compromised ang safety!Pero mas malaki sa dating starex. Boxy. Anlaki. Parang Hiace Grandia kalaki. malinis tingnan ang harapan. Gaganda ng seats, 2 sliding doors, ang rear aircon vents ay nakatapat na sa ulo ng mga passengers, sliding ang upuan sa tabi ng sliding door at kahulihang row para ma-adjust pag papasok ang mga tao. Nasa gitna ang jump seats kaya hindi siya kasing- convenient pasukin hindi gaya ng dating starex. Gray ang kulay ng dashboard. Nasa center console ng dashboard na ang kambyo, kaya kelangang dikit ang driver sa steering wheel pag nagda- drive kasi anlayo nga ng kambyo di tulad ng dati. Very basic ang features ng power outlet, cupholders, secret pockets, 2 glove boxes, manual dual aircon, cd-radio-sd card car stereo head unit, kapal pati ng gilid para sa mga pockets at cupholders din. This new grand starex has far great newer look but more adjustments and sacrifices required for it's new owners!!!
    Grabe naman! pati power windows wala??? eh di mas ok pa yung Starex Pro, at least yun naka power windows kahit yung delivery panel type.

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    #450
    naka power window po ang ung grand starex tci version

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    #451
    Thanks Lui, we prospective buyers are guided accordingly. I am really eyeing for the grand starex tci kasi ok pa sa budget ko. But bec of bare bones feutures na nabasa ko dito sa thread baka antayin ko na lang 2008 innova.

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    #452
    The way I see it the grand starex dealers have their own marketing strategies similar with that of other japanese car brands. Unlike before the 1998 models, millenium up to the CRDI models, the differences are very minimal. I think there were only 2 or 3 models to choose from. If it is 9 seater or 11 seater we already know the seating configurations right away. Also, all models have standard features. Unlike the grand starex that has so many models to choose from. They even took off the basic features that we used to enjoy with the older models.

    If we look at this entry level without power windows, keyless entry, backing sensor, third brake light and other features. Ehh talagang madidismaya tayo.

    Take a look for example the seating arrangement. The grand starex has so many configurations. Buyers should take into considerations the different purposes of buying the grand starex. If it is intended only for cargo, transporting regular commuter, for business purposes etc. etc. etc. What if i bought a 2+2+3+3 configuration and it so happen that I needed a large space for cargo? yung older models fold mo lang yung 3 row malaki na space for cargo. And if you need more space you can fold the 2nd row too. A size of this van should be very very versatile in terms of usages. para maximized di ba? opinion lang po.

    If I buy a grand starex perhaps I need an open range to take out a seat just to convert it from passenger carrier into cargo. woooo

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    #453
    We're planning to get a starex. Talaga bang masmura sa graymarket dealer like Standout Motors kaysa HARI dealers? Sana may Standout Motors dito sa Cebu.

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    #454
    Quote Originally Posted by 3raserheads View Post
    We're planning to get a starex. Talaga bang masmura sa graymarket dealer like Standout Motors kaysa HARI dealers? Sana may Standout Motors dito sa Cebu.
    Punta ka nalang ng Manila, bili ka sa standout o casa tapos ship mo na lang sa Cebu, pansin ko lang mas impressive yung unit ng Standout, hindi kasi bare tulad ng sa casa.

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    #455
    Hi! Di ba problema kung walang warranty? If di problema baka it would be very costly? Im from Davao City and is very interested to buy a Hyundai Grand Starex HVX, problem is, my friend who owns a local Isuzu Trooper CRDI engine advised me to buy from HARI para raw i would not be worried when the CRDI engine would fail because of compatibility issues with our local diesel oils. With this concern aside, I would love to buy a Hyundai Grand Starex from either Standout, Car options, or Pit stop. Sabi kasi ng friend ko, it would cost at least 50th to 100th just to fix CRDI problems. I heard also from another friend of mine who works in toyota davao that they have encountered a lot of problem or concern with the CRDI engines equipped inside the Fortuner, Hilux, and the Innova. Hope all you Tsikoteers would enlighten me on this issue so i could finally decide on whether to buy from HARI although comes with a 5 year/100th warranty, i assume that the purchase price would be more expensive as well as bare or from importers such as Standout/Car Options/Pit Stop which i assume has a cheaper purchase price as well as loaded with more features and amenties though it would come with no warranty as there is no branch of Standout/Car Options/Pit Stop outside of Metro Manila.

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    #456
    Quote Originally Posted by ambekam View Post
    The way I see it the grand starex dealers have their own marketing strategies similar with that of other japanese car brands. Unlike before the 1998 models, millenium up to the CRDI models, the differences are very minimal. I think there were only 2 or 3 models to choose from. If it is 9 seater or 11 seater we already know the seating configurations right away. Also, all models have standard features. Unlike the grand starex that has so many models to choose from. They even took off the basic features that we used to enjoy with the older models.

    If we look at this entry level without power windows, keyless entry, backing sensor, third brake light and other features. Ehh talagang madidismaya tayo.

    Take a look for example the seating arrangement. The grand starex has so many configurations. Buyers should take into considerations the different purposes of buying the grand starex. If it is intended only for cargo, transporting regular commuter, for business purposes etc. etc. etc. What if i bought a 2+2+3+3 configuration and it so happen that I needed a large space for cargo? yung older models fold mo lang yung 3 row malaki na space for cargo. And if you need more space you can fold the 2nd row too. A size of this van should be very very versatile in terms of usages. para maximized di ba? opinion lang po.

    If I buy a grand starex perhaps I need an open range to take out a seat just to convert it from passenger carrier into cargo. woooo
    You can say these if probably you're paying less than the current(previous model).... But you're not bro. You are actually paying more,- like P200K more (correct me if I am wrong here....) than the same variant of the current (previous model)....

    Whew! Again,- thanks so much to lui for being a true-blooded tsikoteer!

    I think this Marketing Strategy s&cks,- Big Time! Many loyal Hyundai customers will look elsewhere.... No doubt! As for me,- again,- first and foremost,- the price was already out of our league. But more importantly now, the value for money is gone! So, these two compelling reasons logically would push someone in our class to consider other options...

    4101:victory:

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    #457
    it's not to late for us to flood HARI with our e-mails and letters so that they could address our concerns re: features and prices. and we can also seek the help of motoring journalists like James Deakin, Vernon Sarne and the Ang Brothers. they can help us persuade HARI to address our concerns and change the Grand Starex for the better.

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    #458
    i think may chance pa po mag improve an ang specs ng GRAND STAREX. sbi kasi knina ng isan sa mga bigboss ng HARI "W will continue to make improvement on the grand starex" un ang sbi nya

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    #459
    i guess the improvement will be on the price ha,,,,,,,,,meaning more expensive?

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    #460
    Quote Originally Posted by cocoy View Post
    i guess the improvement will be on the price ha,,,,,,,,,meaning more expensive?
    sbi po iimprove ung spec ng grand starex. malamang pati presyo mag improve nga

2008 Hyundai Starex (Gen. 4)