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    #501
    Akala ko ba OCt ilalabas ito? Di ba na launch na nga?

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    #502
    ^Yung TCi inilabas na. Yung CRDi sa Nov. pa.

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    #503
    lui, pwede mo ba i-post dito yung specs ng Gold variant once meron na?

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    #504
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    ^Yung TCi inilabas na. Yung CRDi sa Nov. pa.


    meron na po ba kayo idea kung ilang kilometers per liter ang tinatakbo nang grand starex crdi?

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    #505
    any of you guys know the fuel consumption of the grand starex CRDI? how many kilometers per liter nya? thanks guys!

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    #506
    ^ siguro mas matipid na dahil VGT na yung turbo. yung starex jumbo CRDi ng kaibigan ko mga 7.7 km/l konsumo sabi ng driver niya

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    #507
    hello guys! meron po ba nakaka alam sainyo dito kung ilan ang max speed nang grand starex crdi vgt? thanks guys!

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    #508
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    lui, pwede mo ba i-post dito yung specs ng Gold variant once meron na?
    sure sir kapag may final spec na po

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    #509
    Quote Originally Posted by ressie View Post
    hello guys! meron po ba nakaka alam sainyo dito kung ilan ang max speed nang grand starex crdi vgt? thanks guys!
    idea lang sir ung isang client ko po na bumili ng current grx m/t sabi nya umabot na daw sya 170km/h sa skyway. siguro mas mabilis ang grand starex dito since mas mataas po hp nya, 145 vs 174

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    #510
    Quote Originally Posted by lui View Post
    idea lang sir ung isang client ko po na bumili ng current grx m/t sabi nya umabot na daw sya 170km/h sa skyway. siguro mas mabilis ang grand starex dito since mas mataas po hp nya, 145 vs 174


    ok salamat po sir lui! bakit po pala sa international website nang hyundai 125hp lang yung crid vgt engine na nakalagay sa specs nila?

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    #511
    Quote Originally Posted by ressie View Post
    ok salamat po sir lui! bakit po pala sa international website nang hyundai 125hp lang yung crid vgt engine na nakalagay sa specs nila?
    nku d ko po alam bkt 125 nakalagay. ung santa fe kc 2.2 crdi vgt 150 na. kaya inisip ko tama ung 174 sa 2.5 crdi vgt

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    #512
    Quote Originally Posted by lui View Post
    nku d ko po alam bkt 125 nakalagay. ung santa fe kc 2.2 crdi vgt 150 na. kaya inisip ko tama ung 174 sa 2.5 crdi vgt


    ok thank you very much sir lui! tagal naman kasi ilabas nung hari yung crdi models nila. hehe!

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    #513
    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    I visited Hyundai Global today. They had on display the 12-Seater TCI Manual Transmission Grand Starex. It was a white color model.
    Got to see this when I visited that dealership last Saturday. Some comments:

    1. It's huge! Well, at least compared to the current 9-seater and Jumbo versions. It's still not Grandia huge.
    2. On the exterior, the white slab sided van with black bumpers, handles and side mirrors did not look 'grand' at all. If tinted black, IMO, it'd look more like a higher-end delivery van. Tsk tsk! Not P1.2m worth for me.
    3. Though the headlamp assembly looked quite sophisticated for a delivery van, the blank slot for the fog lamp told me otherwise.
    4. On the interior, in general, it didn't look too bare compared to our current model Jumbo and GRX. It's no Starex PRO, that's for sure. I didn't get to scope each and every convenience feature though as I went on to check on the seating room.
    5. Having two sliding rear doors is convenient for such a large ride.
    6. 1st row seating room. It's a bucket seat for the driver, but not for the passenger, since there's a jumpseat attached to said chair. There's enough space to comfortably stuff my 5'7" 200+ lbs frame in the driver's seat without having to push it all the way back. Didn't notice whether the passenger seat could slide though. Jumbo's bucket could, but not 9-seater's bench in the previous model.
    7. 2nd row seating room was about ok. The left passenger seat could only recline, while the right seat could slide back and forth for loading of the other rows. So i guess if you need legroom, this is the seat to be in.
    8. 3rd row seating. It's was a bit tight on the left seat. It felt a bit claustrophobic, being stuck against the wall. This is probably the tightest seat in the van.
    9. 4th row seating. Space is ok. But the chair's lower portion folds up, then the row slides forward, unlike the tumble type in the previous Jumbo. I wonder if the Grand's way of folding can max out the luggage space.
    10. Plush seat materials naman. Masarap naman sakyan.
    11. With the way the 12 seater is configured, it was really intended to haul people, just like the previous Jumbo, and just some occasional cargo. What sort of saddens me is the 10 seater though, which is supposedly composed of 3 rows of benches. The last row does not tumble and or fold. So whatever space you have behind the 3rd row is all you'll be having. Unlike the current GRX, which can make more room for cargo.

    I don't feel the P1.2M is worth it for a bare Grand Starex with a manual tranny and a TCI engine. Perhaps the P1.6M version with AT tranny and CRDi engine would be better.

    Separately, just this morning, I saw a full options black Grand Starex from Standout. Malaki, pero eleganteng tignan. Far cry from the one in the showroom.

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    #514
    introductory price lang pala mga price ng grand starex. may possibilty na mabago pa price. so, we should now petition HARI to lower their prices kung gusto nga nila makuha yung target nila na 8% market share at maging best seller pa rin nila....

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    #515
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    introductory price lang pala mga price ng grand starex. may possibilty na mabago pa price. so, we should now petition HARI to lower their prices kung gusto nga nila makuha yung target nila na 8% market share at maging best seller pa rin nila....
    Malabo na maging best seller pa rin yang Grand Starex, kasi lumaki na masyado size niya, kung titignan natin mas marami 9 seater na Starex kesa 11 seater, IMO kaya bumenta yung Starex kasi yung size niya di kalakihan pero very roomy at very manuverable, kung papansinin nyo marami sa mga Starex babae ang nagdadrive. Kaya kung gusto ng HARI bumenta yan gaya ng dati, e dapat siguro maglabas sila ng SWB version parang yung lumang 9 seater.

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    #516
    Quote Originally Posted by ronw123w124 View Post
    Malabo na maging best seller pa rin yang Grand Starex, kasi lumaki na masyado size niya, kung titignan natin mas marami 9 seater na Starex kesa 11 seater, IMO kaya bumenta yung Starex kasi yung size niya di kalakihan pero very roomy at very manuverable, kung papansinin nyo marami sa mga Starex babae ang nagdadrive. Kaya kung gusto ng HARI bumenta yan gaya ng dati, e dapat siguro maglabas sila ng SWB version parang yung lumang 9 seater.
    I agree with you. They should come up with a SWB version with seating that's as flexible as the 9 seater's. It's the 9-seater GRX that sold really well. I don't know why they've overlooked a similar setup.

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    #517
    may 9 seater variant po ang grand starex kaya baka malabo ilabas ang SWB version, kaya ang pwedeng gawin ng HARI is to lower their price...

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    #518
    Quote Originally Posted by ronw123w124 View Post
    Malabo na maging best seller pa rin yang Grand Starex, kasi lumaki na masyado size niya, kung titignan natin mas marami 9 seater na Starex kesa 11 seater, IMO kaya bumenta yung Starex kasi yung size niya di kalakihan pero very roomy at very manuverable, kung papansinin nyo marami sa mga Starex babae ang nagdadrive. Kaya kung gusto ng HARI bumenta yan gaya ng dati, e dapat siguro maglabas sila ng SWB version parang yung lumang 9 seater.
    Yes I also agree.

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    #519
    Sana nga mas matipid na yung grand starex. Kaya lang yung nabasa ko sa internet about the turbo mechanics. It says turbo's main job is to give the engine power and when it gives power it needs more fuel. When it needs more fuel it needs more air. Is it true?

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    #520
    The following is a part of what i've read over the internet


    This concise introduction to the Turbo-Charger is quoted from the textbook "Automotive Engines (8th edition)" by Crouse & Anglin, published by McGraw-Hill International. In three short, precise paragraph, it perfectly serves to introduce the Turbo-Charger in this article.
    As explained above, an engine will produce more power if more air-fuel mixture is forced into the combustion chambers. In NA engines, the maximum possible amount of air that can be fed into the combustion chamber is the displacement of that cylinder. For a 4-cylinder 1.6l engine, this will be approximately 400 c.c. of air per cycle. Flowing 400 c.c. of air into a cylinder of the 1.6l means it is working at 100% volumetric efficiency (V.E.). Engines with variable valve timing and other racing derived technologies (e.g. DOHC-VTECs) do acheive V.E. of above 100% but only a little bit more as they are still ultimately limited by the amount of air normal atmospheric pressure can push in. But maximum power is derived by igniting an optimal air-to-fuel mixture. So if we want to get more power, we will need to burn more fuel. And to burn more fuel, we need more oxygen and that means more air. But there is no way to feed a lot more than 400 c.c. of air into each cylinder in N.A. form. However, using a turbocharger, although each cylinder might still be only 400 c.c. volume, the air is now compressed and there is more oxygen per volume of air than that at normal atmospheric pressure. Thus in forced induction, we can feed in more fuel because we have the necessary amount of oxygen in the air to sustain optimal power production. This then is the basic operating principle of the Turbocharger.

2008 Hyundai Starex (Gen. 4)