Vehicular Accidents

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I hope this is allowed on this forum. Repost ko lang itong reply ko in a different thread:



Not passing judgment on this incident kasi hindi ko alam ang facts, and I haven't watched the video link pa (as of typing this). If you click the >> button in the quotation box, it brings you to the original thread pala. Anyone who can be bothered to do so can read the entire context of the quote from there.

SOP ng pulis to file charges but dismiss yan sa prosecutor, since police can't judge kung sino may kasalanan.


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[Miles_on]

I'm not complaining about the law. it's the press release that irks me na ang dating ay laging yung driver ang presumed guilty until proven innocent. though di naman kasi makakasuhan ang patay. they could simply frame it like "kasalukuyang iniimbestigahan ang pangyayari bago magsampa ng karapat-dapat na kaso."

Blame the media in the country.

Misleading headlines and tabloid style writing kasi ang main target market nila... (I'll stop myself there)

Ex:
"Sunog at apoy sa bahay! Nagbabaga!!!"

Basahin mo yung article and it turns out, yung sunog nasa kusina, kasi nag iihaw ng barbeque.


Example lang po yun, but I think you guys get what I mean to say...

[Dr.Kamiya]

Well, they're in for a rude awakening.
There are those who, by sheer bravado (aka. "YABANG") or ignorance, somehow believe that the law doesn't apply to them (ex. motor na beating the red light, reckless or nag-counterflow na alanganin).

They may have gotten used having no repercussions from breaking traffic laws, but these people forget that the laws of physics always apply.

[dr. d]

Eto pa:

"Sige, you think the laws don't apply to you?" No matter what they think, unless anghel, demonyo, santo sila or the Master himself (referring to the big "J"), the laws of physics apply to them same as any other thing here on Earth.

a law of physics that's frequently violated:
"nawalan ng break."

my take:
the breaks were not lost. they were merely overwhelmed by the big momentum, generated thus:
1. going too fast; and/or
2. carrying a heavy load.

[Miles_on]

Naman kasi.

Some people are fooled by the illusion that their vehicle's exceptional maneuverability, capacity to slip through tight spaces and phenomenal acceleration gives them invincibility and other "super powers"...

Actually, if they keep it up long enough, it will confer them the ability to pass through solid objects, flight and inter-dimensional travel... by premature separation of the soul from the body

[dr. d]

Naman kasi.

Some people are fooled by the illusion that their vehicle's exceptional maneuverability, capacity to slip through tight spaces and phenomenal acceleration gives them invincibility and other "super powers"...

Actually, if they keep it up long enough, it will confer them the ability to pass through solid objects, flight and inter-dimensional travel... by premature separation of the soul from the body

i once asked a motorcycle rider who was snaking his way thru traffic, why they (motorsiklistas) would not simply fall in line like the cars.
"motor ito", was his reply.
so yes, they appear to have this air of "superiority". i use the word uncomfortably, because it somehow does not convey what i mean inside, but i can not think of a better word.

then again,
i asked an office colleague who rode a two-wheeler,
"sir, gusto ko lang maka-uwi."

[Miles_on]

so yes, they appear to have this air of "superiority". i use the word uncomfortably, because it somehow does not convey what i mean inside, but i can not think of a better word.

I think all of us here understand naman what you are trying to say.

I did post some time ago that in these past years, driving has become even more hazardous with these erratically driven vehicles around us. That’s how reality has changed for us, so we must adapt, and put our years of driving experience to use.

I spoke to an officer of a riding club (motorcycle enthusiasts) and he said with disdain:

“Marami kasi diyan, marunong lang MAGPATAKBO ng motor, pero hindi marunong MAG-MOTOR...”

So basically, we are now surrounded by a bunch of relatively newly minted motorists on 2 wheels, not any less dangerous than an inexperienced driver on 4, but harder to evade and foresee. Natural selection weeds out the foolhardy, stubborn or careless with expensive, painful or fatal lessons. Yung gripe ko nga lang is wag sana silang mandamay sa katangahan/kayabangan nila!

[absinthe]

At least 11 killed in Balingasag, Misamis Oriental truck crash
Published January 13, 2022 6:33pm

The vehicle was traveling to a beachside resort for a postponed Christmas party on Wednesday when the driver lost control after the brakes apparently failed on a downhill section of road.

Around 50 people were crammed into the truck, most of them in the open tray, when it veered off the road and into a tree.

The vehicle then flipped over onto a pile of rocks, Balingasag municipal police chief Major Teodoro De Oro said.

[StockEngine]

At least 11 killed in Balingasag, Misamis Oriental truck crash
Published January 13, 2022 6:33pm

This is a massacre to say the least.

[Ry_Tower]

agree naman na most likely di ka makukulong or mapipilitan magbayad. pero sabi mo rin nga, it's the hassle and sakit ng ulo -and even harassment from relatives nila- ang problema. lalo kung sa provinces nangyari yung accident. sobrang laking abala lalo kung nananahimik ka lang sa lane mo.

I'm not complaining about the law. it's the press release that irks me na ang dating ay laging yung driver ang presumed guilty until proven innocent. though di naman kasi makakasuhan ang patay. they could simply frame it like "kasalukuyang iniimbestigahan ang pangyayari bago magsampa ng karapat-dapat na kaso."

This I completely agree with. So as not to add fuel to the fire and to be unbiased. Use of "daw, raw, sinasabi" makes it unbiased yet very reportorial indeed. Para walang social media trial.

[babkalakal]

SOP ng pulis to file charges but dismiss yan sa prosecutor, since police can't judge kung sino may kasalanan.


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sometimes yung imbestigador kapag nag pa-interview mayroon nadin foregone conclusion o opinion tapos malaman laman hindi naman pala at di tugma dun sa decision ng piskal. ewan sa media leading ang questions tapos sensationalized pa.

to be clear SOP ba talaga mag file ng charge ang police? hindi ba mag fi-file lang sila kung may probable cause at under advisement ng legal nila?

[absinthe]

Misis, patay nang masalpok ng van ang sinasakyang tricycle na minamaneho ng mister niyang PWD
Enero 17, 2022 8:28pm GMT+08:00

xxx

Ayon sa isang anak ng biktima na si Honie, pauwi na sana ang kaniyang mga magulang at kapatid nang mangyari ang insidente.

"Dadaan lang, bibili ng tinapay. Yung truck napalampas pa nila, nalingon ni papa sa kaliwa, sa kanan nakita naman niyang malayo pa ang van. Hindi naman niya sukat akalain na maabutan pa sila [ng van]," kuwento niya.

Sa paunang imbestigasyon ng pulisya, sinabing parehong hindi nagmenor ang dalawang sasakyan sa naturang crossing.

"Approaching main road, dapat titingnan niya muna bago siya mag-proceed. Yung driver [ng tricycle] PWD [person with disability], iisa yung mata. Tapos may edad na rin si tatay. Matulin din yung van, 'yon lang ang isang pagkakamali ng [ng driver] ng van," ayon kay Police Corporal Jefferson Cantor, investigator, San Jose City Police.

Ayon kay Honie, walang lisensiya ang kaniyang amang PWD.

Sinabi ng pulisya pansamantalang nakalaya ang driver ng van matapos magbigay ng insyal na tulong pinansiyal at nangakong tutulong sa gastusin sa pagpapalibing sa biktima.

[BratPAQ]

Misis, patay nang masalpok ng van ang sinasakyang tricycle na minamaneho ng mister niyang PWD
Enero 17, 2022 8:28pm GMT+08:00

This is rare. The police have common sense.

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[yapoy86]

bukod sa walang lisensya.. eh iisa pa yung mata nung trike driver.. mahihirapan talaga yan kasi apektado na yung depth of field nya.. hindi nya basta ma estimate yung malayo sa malapit

[coiter]

This is rare. The police have common sense.

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at yung anak ng namatay aminadong walang lisensya ang tatay at walang paawa effect.

[dr. d]

bukod sa walang lisensya.. eh iisa pa yung mata nung trike driver.. mahihirapan talaga yan kasi apektado na yung depth of field nya.. hindi nya basta ma estimate yung malayo sa malapit

that is,
if he even saw the other vehicle at all...

while it is not illegal per se for a one-eyed driver to drive in the country, one still has to be a holder of a legitimate driver's license.

[BratPAQ]

that is,
if he even saw the other vehicle at all...

while it is not illegal per se for a one-eyed driver to drive in the country, one still has to be a holder of a legitimate driver's license.

I'm one eyed and I still bump into people during rush hour sa mall because of blind spot. That's why I stopped driving. Kung naglalakad nakaka bunggo ako, pano pa kaya pag nagda drive na.

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[dr. d]

I'm one eyed and I still bump into people during rush hour sa mall because of blind spot. That's why I stopped driving. Kung naglalakad nakaka bunggo ako, pano pa kaya pag nagda drive na.

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one has to be aware of one's limitations, and function accordingly, i guess.

[absinthe]

2 sakay ng motorsiklo, nasawi nang mabangga ng bus sa EDSA Busway
Enero 20, 2022 10:11pm GMT+08:00

xxx Kaagad na nasawi ang lalaking rider, at kinalaunan ay binawian na rin ng buhay ang angkas niyang babae.

Ayon sa post, nagkamali ng direksyon ang mga biktima dahil sa mobile navigation app.

Sa Facebook post ni MMDA Traffic Operations chief Bong Nebrija, sinabi niya na dapat i-update ng mobile navigation app ang itinuturo nitong direksiyon dahil matagal na umanong sarado ang North Avenue U-turn slot.

"The North Ave U Turn has been closed for a long time now and yet it keeps on directing riders towards it. Anyway may barriers naman diyan," ayon sa opisyal.

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[glenn_duke]

2 sakay ng motorsiklo, nasawi nang mabangga ng bus sa EDSA Busway
Enero 20, 2022 10:11pm GMT+08:00

Kasalanan daw ni waze, pina pa uturn cla sa saradong slot.

Lately nagiging engot na ang waze