Remote bypass oil filtration

**crazy_boy** · August 5th, 2011 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

I used in my pick-up the Mobul delvac MX 15w40 with CI-4 rating before. I'm gonna decide whether the Top1 SDO Oil or the Shell Helix Diesel HX7 will be my permanent oil. Shel HX7 is just CF rated but is semi-syn. Same price with Top1 SDO whihc has higher API rating at CI-4. I guess i'll be using either Top1 SDO or Mobil Delvac althought the dlvac is tempting at just P200/ltr vs the P300-304 for Top 1 SDO and Shell Helix Diesel HX7.

Thanks for the links!

use Top1 narin haha!

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Our ride is requiring only CD rated oil.

But it is better to use a better oil. Top1 SDO na gamit mo diba? Mukhang mas ok yan due to higher zinc content eh.

Same price with Shell Helix Diesel HX7 kasi eh.

Mobil Delvac and Shell Rimula X multigrades naman yung budget oil na maganda rin since CI-4 rated na at widely available pa.

i want to try Elf brand oil sana. i've been reading alot of good reviews kasi. and currently, we are using Elf Trophy DX on our 4D56. mukhang maganda naman yung feedback as per our driver.

**locoroco777** · August 5th, 2011 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

It's ok since the 40rating is what is for the climate at star-up in temperate climates. Yung 5 rating naman is for the colder climates. Kaya nga sa mga laging snow covered, dapat 0wXX ang rating AFAIK.

It is not too thin since most multigrade here are even 15w40 eh.

pero kasi bro yung tinitingnan daw dapat talaga is yung winter temo eh...

kasi yung bigger value is viscocity lang which is nagbabago din when the temparature changes according to the engr I've talked to...so kung baga lets say yung 30 na value pag nainitan nagiging parang 40 narin daw....so ayun...ehehe

nakaka confused din talaga hehe...

I'm reading about oils for a long time now, mostly on the internet, pero nagkakaron ako ng maraming 2nd thoughts when I've talked to someone who is really knowledgeable in this field...hehe

**Ry_Tower** · August 5th, 2011 07:14 PM

^ hehe oo nga minsan nakakalito but I do believe safe yung ginagamit natin. Hanap lang natin yung best eh hehehe

*CB, yes baka yan gamitin ko since semi-syn naman at mas mataas yung API C-rating niya which what I want plus yung zinc content nga is above 1,000 ppm as per dvldocs link data.

Kung magtipid mode, mobil delvac MX 15w40 ako. :shy:

**dvldoc** · August 5th, 2011 08:56 PM

Newer oils have LESS ZDDP (ZINC) 850ppm or less for CJ-4 and SM oils.

For your diesel you want CI-4, CI-4 Plus and CJ-4

For a ideal of the Mobil Delvac oil with the CI-4 Plus rating is 1700ppm zinc very high

Here's some for Mobile one which list there API and zinc contents.

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 zinc 1200ppm
Advanced full synthetic formula
CJ-4, CI-4,
CI-4 Plus, SM,
SL

Mobil delvac MX 15w40 (Now that's some good oil) zinc content is over 1000ppm

API CI-4, CH-4, CF, SL, SJ

**dvldoc** · August 5th, 2011 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by locoroco777

Doc,

Im currently using a 5w40 grade diesel specific oil with an API rating of CJ-4....

But according to an engineer I've talked to he said that the 5w40 is "too thin" for the climate here, and might cost some trouble in the long run... also, he said that the more appropriate oil here is in the range of 10w and 15w however, Im still satisfied with the performance Im getting with the 5w40 oil...but Im quite concerned about what he said with regards to it causing me trouble in the long run...

also, as I so much want our both ends to meet, I cannot find a Synthetic diesel oil in the ranges of 10w and 15w
because its either a synthetic one but not diesel specific or the other way around...

So may I know whats your take on that?

He is semi wrong about it being to thin it's still 40 weight oil the 5w means nothing in your climate it is only for cold weather. Many people use this oil weight year around in the states. Ford state they CJ-4 is recommended if you run 5W-40 up to 100F, which you can also do with CI-4 and CI-4 plus

Mobil 1 Turbo
Diesel Truck 5W-40 http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf

You also have AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-40 Premium Diesel Oil, which is CJ-4

Mobil Delvac 1 5w40,
Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 5W-40,
"Valvoline Premium Extreme Full Synthetic Diesel" 5w40,
Motorcraft® SAE 5W-40 Full Synthetic Diesel Motor Oil,
Rotella T6 5w40,

All of these can be used year around in any climate. They all still hold their viscosity in the hotter climates. And it get way hotter in the US than it does in the Philippines in many places in the summer. Ever cook a egg on cement you can do it where I live right now.

**crazy_boy** · August 5th, 2011 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

^ hehe oo nga minsan nakakalito but I do believe safe yung ginagamit natin. Hanap lang natin yung best eh hehehe

*CB, yes baka yan gamitin ko since semi-syn naman at mas mataas yung API C-rating niya which what I want plus yung zinc content nga is above 1,000 ppm as per dvldocs link data.

Kung magtipid mode, mobil delvac MX 15w40 ako. :shy:

does your rig have EGR? CI-4 yata minimum requirement ng rigs with EGR.

**locoroco777** · August 5th, 2011 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by dvldoc

Newer oils have LESS ZDDP (ZINC) 850ppm or less for CJ-4 and SM oils.

For your diesel you want CI-4, CI-4 Plus and CJ-4

For a ideal of the Mobil Delvac oil with the CI-4 Plus rating is 1700ppm zinc very high

Here's some for Mobile one which list there API and zinc contents.

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 zinc 1200ppm
Advanced full synthetic formula
CJ-4, CI-4,
CI-4 Plus, SM,
SL

Mobil delvac MX 15w40 (Now that's some good oil) zinc content is over 1000ppm

API CI-4, CH-4, CF, SL, SJ

so which is more important doc? the molybdenum(high concentration in motul) content or the zinc content which is present in mobil1 TDT?

Originally Posted by dvldoc

He is semi wrong about it being to thin it's still 40 weight oil the 5w means nothing in your climate it is only for cold weather. Many people use this oil weight year around in the states. Ford state they CJ-4 is recommended if you run 5W-40 up to 100F, which you can also do with CI-4 and CI-4 plus

Mobil 1 Turbo
Diesel Truck 5W-40 http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf

You also have AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-40 Premium Diesel Oil, which is CJ-4

Mobil Delvac 1 5w40,
Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 5W-40,
"Valvoline Premium Extreme Full Synthetic Diesel" 5w40,
Motorcraft® SAE 5W-40 Full Synthetic Diesel Motor Oil,
Rotella T6 5w40,

All of these can be used year around in any climate. They all still hold their viscosity in the hotter climates. And it get way hotter in the US than it does in the Philippines in many places in the summer. Ever cook a egg on cement you can do it where I live right now.

now thats comforting to know!

I'll mention it the next time we talk...hehe...especially the cooking of the egg in a pavement...

so my readings before isn't worthless at all....:bwahaha:

even the mechanics in the dealership service are even threatening me that my warranty will be expired if I use the 5w40 because its only used in colder climates according to them hehe....this had me laughing really, because I was about to say that how come its being used in the middle east? I only stopped myself from saying it to not start an argument haha....

thanks a lot for the infos doc!

**Wh1stl3r** · August 5th, 2011 11:46 PM

*dvldoc
I know what you mean re: heat wave there, my aunt in Chicago can't even get out of the house as its too hot. Heat wave in the windy city. Funny thing how she couldn't visit here because her skin can't take the heat. Now the heat's visited her.

*locorocco
I'm curious to know if Motul is better than Delvac/TDT as well. Super lubricant daw kasi yang moly. A friend said his truck runs smoother with Motul than with Mobil 1 TDT. Ako naman I've noticed the engine temperature is a bit hotter going from a mineral to a synthetic. (Mobil Delvac MX 15w-40 to Royal Purple 15w-40)

What do you think doc? Any experience with Motul?

**locoroco777** · August 6th, 2011 12:54 AM

^oo nga bro eh....pero nung galing ako motul then switch sa TDT ang pakiramdam ko naman is parang tumipid ang consumption nya...

and everything else is the same naman hehe...

**dvldoc** · August 6th, 2011 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by locoroco777

so which is more important doc? the molybdenum(high concentration in motul) content or the zinc content which is present in mobil1 TDT?

now thats comforting to know!

I'll mention it the next time we talk...hehe...especially the cooking of the egg in a pavement...

so my readings before isn't worthless at all....:bwahaha:

even the mechanics in the dealership service are even threatening me that my warranty will be expired if I use the 5w40 because its only used in colder climates according to them hehe....this had me laughing really, because I was about to say that how come its being used in the middle east? I only stopped myself from saying it to not start an argument haha....

thanks a lot for the infos doc!

ZDDP/ZINC is more important than moly,