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    These standard tests can get us some hard facts about oil filters.

    Multi-Pass Filter Test
    ISO 16889
    ISO 4548-12
    ISO 19438
    SAE J1858

    These testing services are available in the states. I hope some car clubs send filters for testing else we're left with the manufacturer's own test result statements. So far I haven't found a comparative using any of these tests.

    If you happen to find oil filter comparisons using these tests please don't hesitate to post the link here.

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    Baldwin Filters | Tech Tips

    http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/pdf...es/MB10046.pdf

    http://www.mobil.com/Shared-Files-LC...gn_amer_en.pdf

    There's a lot more but don't feel like pulling them all up.

    All major US brands use the above ISO testing.

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    #2203
    Quote Originally Posted by indiej View Post
    These standard tests can get us some hard facts about oil filters.

    Multi-Pass Filter Test
    ISO 16889
    ISO 4548-12
    ISO 19438
    SAE J1858

    These testing services are available in the states. I hope some car clubs send filters for testing else we're left with the manufacturer's own test result statements. So far I haven't found a comparative using any of these tests.

    If you happen to find oil filter comparisons using these tests please don't hesitate to post the link here.
    Most filter companies already use these standards. Fleetguard, Baldwin, WIX, NAPA, Purolator, Bosch, AC Delco, ect. All do.

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    Yes, and just like the VOAs that people do, wouldn't it be nice that people also do these third party tests? It won't be as numerous as OAs I suppose. 1-3 tests of a line e.g. the Pure One Series or Donaldson Endurance series, and we'll get the idea if they're superb or junk.

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    #2205


    Vic C506. Looks like the media collapsed.



    Vic C513

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    Quote Originally Posted by indiej View Post
    Yes, and just like the VOAs that people do, wouldn't it be nice that people also do these third party tests? It won't be as numerous as OAs I suppose. 1-3 tests of a line e.g. the Pure One Series or Donaldson Endurance series, and we'll get the idea if they're superb or junk.
    There are lots of independent test as well. Just like this Test Pictures and Results - Oil Filtration Comparisons From the Workbench

    But all a individual needs to do to see how well there filter is working is do a oil test with a particle count.



    A iso test cost about 1600USD a filter so it's not something most individuals who don't have access to the equipment to do the particle counts can do.

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    Dvldoc* sir what can you say about this oil my friend is dristributing here in the Philippines?

    Its made by GS KOREA (Caltex Korea) He said they have a refinery there. Its rated SEMI Synthetic API CI-4...

    And the price is cheap * 250 per liter, is it the same like DELO 400?

    Thanks for the input

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    #2208
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post


    Vic C506. Looks like the media collapsed.



    Vic C513
    It's not that uncommon to see wavy filter media so that alone does not make a filter bad, The problem with VIC is they still use a very old style of cellulose for there filters with a low efficiency rating and compared to others it is very thin.

    You can see what I mean here. VIC still uses the same stuff as OEM which is just as inefficient.





    Compare that to modern filters with modern cellulose blends



    Very big difference vs VIC





    VIC's are cheap for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    There are lots of independent test as well. Just like this Test Pictures and Results - Oil Filtration Comparisons From the Workbench

    But all a individual needs to do to see how well there filter is working is do a oil test with a particle count.
    Yey!

    A iso test cost about 1600USD a filter so it's not something most individuals who don't have access to the equipment to do the particle counts can do.
    Boo!

    Thanks doc

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    #2210


    B7144 on the 4BE1 Isuzu

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    wow.. pati delivery trucks niyo naka baldwin na? hehe.. ilan kms niyo po ginagamit? 10k? pag 10k yata magiging same lang sa gastos sa bosch na 5k no? I'm just using bosch on trucks kasi.. hehe

    guys may bd28 napo? thanks:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC View Post
    wow.. pati delivery trucks niyo naka baldwin na? hehe.. ilan kms niyo po ginagamit? 10k? pag 10k yata magiging same lang sa gastos sa bosch na 5k no? I'm just using bosch on trucks kasi.. hehe
    B7144 = Php 860. Vic C409a = Php 295. I plan on doing at least 10T kms OCI.

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    #2213
    That's a pretty low reving engine, I would go a minimum of 12T.

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    Ung VIC cheaply made pero mas mahal pa sa magandang brand on certain models.

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    never thought of using baldwin on trucks because of the premium price.. but that made me think again.. hehe.. will buy baldwin.. will run.. 10k lang siguro.. hehe every 5k kasi oil ko.. so every other changeoil.. i will change filters... i use only cheap oils eh...
    1950php per 18liter in pail

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC View Post
    never thought of using baldwin on trucks because of the premium price.. but that made me think again.. hehe.. will buy baldwin.. will run.. 10k lang siguro.. hehe every 5k kasi oil ko.. so every other changeoil.. i will change filters... i use only cheap oils eh...
    1950php per 18liter in pail
    The price is not that premium on the Baldwins, in many cases they are always cheaper than OEM and cheaper than most locally stocked brands.

    And as far as fleet trucks go that's what Baldwin and Fleetguards are designed for that's what makes them so good for a daily driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Ung VIC cheaply made pero mas mahal pa sa magandang brand on certain models.
    So imagine how much the mark-up on those VICs are. The importer has a good business running along.

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    Is Volmax open on Saturdays? I'm planning to visit them tomorrow to get myself a Baldwin B118 then mate it with RP15w40 diesel grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kompressor View Post
    Is Volmax open on Saturdays? I'm planning to visit them tomorrow to get myself a Baldwin B118 then mate it with RP15w40 diesel grade.
    Tel 244-83-75

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    Tel 244-83-75
    THANK YOU THANK YOU! I just called the number and presto, might head there after work if not tomorrow morning. (They're open 8am-5pm on Saturdays as well)

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