Khaos Super Gas Saver

[kiper]

Federal Certification Exhaust Emission Standards
for Light Duty Vehicles and Light Duty Trucks (February 2000)

NMHC: 0.211 g/km
CO: 2.11 g/km
NOx: 0.62 g/km


ARTC Automotive Research & Testing Center (Taiwan)

Report No. B93EG120
Report Date: July 14, 2004
Client: Inventionhaus Internation Corp.
Vehicle: Mitsubishi Freeca 2.0L

NMHC: 1.076 g/km
CO: 7.85 g/km
NOx: 3.04 g/km

Grabe..laki ng difference oh..harhahrar..considering na year 2000 standard pa to ha.

NMHC: 0.865 g/km
CO: 5.74 g/km
NOx: 2.42 g/km

Try niyo na rin compute..baka sabihin niyo mali pa ginawa ako eh..

Panu na kaya kung sa diesel engine pa to..? Masmabigat ang restrictions nila ngayon dun!

Kapag nabenta niyo to sa US..bibili na talaga ko ng KSTC..hahaha

Syanga pala..moderator ako dito..pero ang hawak ko lang ay ung sa FORD CLUB PHILIPPINES at TRAFFIC SIGN forums..u

Ano pa ba sasabihin ko..sige maya na lang ulit.

[kiper]

Onga pala..2 of my friends sa FORD CLUB PHILIPPINES nagpalagay ng ganyan dati. Parehas Lynx..si Tj at si Alex. EFI ang lynx at meron ding MAF sensors..sabi nyo diba, hindi nakakasira ang KSTC..mukhang kulang kayo sa research, test, experiments at knowledge mga bossing.

Ano nangyari? Sira ang timing ng makina nila pareho..wow.

Ung kay Alex..misfiring ang engine, plus ayaw mag-start ang makina paminsan. So ang tanging remedy..remove the good product. Ayos ulit ang auto..buti na lang.

Ung kay Tj naman..sad story. Sira ang timing nya..nagmimisfire. Eto nagulat ako dito, meron sumasabog sa tambutso at may lumalabas pang apoy..wow! Freak show..hehe di naman sya naka-nitro. Nakita din ito ng kaibigan kong si Meng nung nagconvoy sila papunta sa mandaluyong. The worst part..it cost him a whopping P20,000 para mapaayos ang kanyang minamahal na auto..

So that's like P26,000 plus ang nagastos nya..buti na lang at di pa rin napeperwisyo ang business niyo.

Kung gusto mo malaman kung totoo talaga ang sinasabi ko..I'll gladly give their contact numbers to you.

Un lang muna.

kiper

[BlueBimmer]

kiper negative testimonials natin hindi uubra dyan, gus2 lng nya ulit ulitin mga positive testi nya nyahaha

[johnqpublic318]

Read the fireworks versus Ischaramoochie on 4x4ph's Tech section. Fuelsaving.info is U.K.'s Tony.

[Bogeyman]

even if NOx emission was increased by a fraction, this is more than compensated for by the increase in engine power, lessened CO and HC emissions, and higher fuel efficiency. this just shows that you can't have everything you want.

No, this just shows how you value profits over human health and environmental well-being.

I'll tell you what Khaos successfully does, and you don't even need to be an automotive engineer to figure this one out:

The existence of products like Khaos are nothing short of obscene, for they breed a FAR WORSE generation of drivers; the kind who are emboldened with an excuse to get away with anything, since they think that a simple device installed in their engine "saves fuel" and "increases engine performance", no matter what they do on the road. Khaos does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except to encourage these drivers to become reckless, complacent, negligent and irresponsible in looking after their vehicles. These motorists will think nothing of throwing due diligence (and common sense) out the window in favor of the convenience that Khaos practically promises.

Ever hear of the Placebo Effect? That's what's fueling all those testimonials--a false sense of security, brought on by a lack of discipline and a desire for quick answers to everything.

A car is an investment, but not a self-sustaining one. One must be ready to invest time and effort in looking after it, to make sure that it is always running as well as it should. This is why owning a car is not for everyone; only those who are committed to caring for their car are the ones who truly deserve to have one. While it may be tiring, it can also be very fulfilling, with the knowledge that faithful maintenance pays with every kilometer that your car logs in.

Khaos, on the other hand, only serves as a very dangerous shortcut to this maintenance regimen that can potentially harm not only your car, but the environment as well.

If you're willing to settle for the kind of results you have been trumpeting all along, well, I guess Mr. Planas just isn't trying hard enough.

[BlueBimmer]

oh man the thread from 4x4ph only made ischaramoochie looked really like a fool. mouthing off useless phrases while delivering 0 proof of his miracle device.

bogeyman sure has a good point there!

[mazdamazda]

they have tried so hard to penetrate the numerous online automotive community (including pinoycentral)...

and yet they are still:



everytime!

[the_wildthing]

Eto na lang... We know it doesn't live up to its claim (despite numerous attempts to prove it does).

What can we do to help the rest who have fallen or will potentially fall into their trap?

Kawawa naman sila. And in the end baka tayo rin because of the ill effects to the environment.

[vinj]

Yung sa Pinoyexchange buhay nanaman... kala ko inilibing na yung topic. Haay buhay.

[empy]

i love this. :fight:

i especially enjoy the irony in the "your anecdotal comments are worthless, but my testimonial advertising is good as gold".

[mazdamazda]

just found this on the Khaos website:

How KSTC diifer from catalytic converter since it is also an anti-polluion device?
Catalytic Converter is a post combustion device that filters and deposit the pollutants in its chamber whileKSTC is a precombustion device that ensures unburned fuel (pollutants) are completely burned through a ratio of 15 parts of air and 1 part gas mixture all the time.

Wow! The catalytic converter FILTERS and DEPOSITS pollutants!

No wonder that the KSTC inventor is getting physics theories all mixed up. :bwahaha:

What's the saving percentage on gasoline consumption once KSTC is installed?
Based on 1,000 different types of vehicles with KSTC installed a savings of 10% to 50% were achieved, depending on type and condition of vehicle but an average of 25% on gas savings were usually observed.

1,000 different types of vehicles!!!

and notice the use of the word usually. so, no one bothered to input this all into an spreadsheet then get the average of the 1,000 different types of vehicles. how I wish that we can see that list!

KSTC is maintenance free just clean the filter by soap and water.

maintenance free? how come you are telling would be buyers that they need to clean it by soap and water?

Since KSTC achieve efficient combustion it can prolong the life span of the engine, spark plug, mufflers, and engine oil.

can explain about prolonging the life span of the muffler? muffler... wow!

[BlueBimmer]

tsk tsk just goes to show they are preying on people who have little knowledge on cars. its an insult that they even try to do the same thing on a car enthusiast forum! the nerve!

[ghosthunter]

just found this on the Khaos website:

Wow! The catalytic converter FILTERS and DEPOSITS pollutants!

No wonder that the KSTC inventor is getting physics theories all mixed up. :bwahaha:

yup! Isn't it interesting what can be passed as fact in some websites these days just to promote your product?

It has the same logic as catalytic converters being bad. Hmmmm, I wonder if Vixen spanked Mr. Planas yet?

[kiper]

Another testimonial from a club member..

originally posted by blacklynx

Khaos Super Turbo Charger??It's a hoax man...I bought one last year and installed it in my lynx automatic....Sa Alabang ko pa binili in town center. I met this guy named Anoy, claiming he used to be from Coke and now is employed with the Company of Khaos Super Turbo Charger. Yes, I did bought one, because at first I thought it was effective, and with their claims (based on the write ups in the newspaper and from chatting with Mr. Anoy) that the company joined a competition in Taiwan (this is true, i've researched this) and that Ford Makati is also a distributor of this gadget (now this one is a hoax, since I called ford makati and confirmed this after buying the item).

After confirming Ford Makati that they are not a distributor, I also tried doing some research on this gadget...Now think about this, CAR MANUFACTURERS ARE DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH AND PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY IN IT FOR ALMOST A CENTURY TRYING TO REDUCE GAS CONSUMPTION AND EMMISSION. If this Khaos is so effective, then why didn't the car manufacturers installed it in their cars? Isa pa, in engineering terms, as you increase the the air (which the khaos does) there's a certain point in the graph that the NO increase which is more harmful.

Napansin ko na yung kotse ko after installing the Khaos, nag-je-jerk na siya...I immediately tried to contact alabang and nakipag-talo pa sa akin sa phone, ayaw nilang ibalik yung bayad. Ang sabi nila na they will test it first by putting 1 liter of gas, tapos papatakbuhin with Khaos, and another liter of gas na walang Khaos...Hindi ba pinaka-stupid na reason yun...Testing if you really were able to save on gas, it should be in a controlled environment...The humidity, temperature, etc, etc...should be considered....tsk tsk...I tried to contact DTI agad, and also the main office...After how many days na pinag-pasa-pasahan kami nung tiga DTI, pinapunta ako sa main office nila sa timog...I brought my handycam to record yung mga sasabihin nila...They returned the money naman, pero masama sa loob nila, kesyo tinatanong nila ako kung meron bang ibang kotse, dun na lang daw ilagay, etc, etc...madaming kwento ako about what happened to me buying that item.....Many thanks dun sa tiga-DTI...I heard din that KABAYAN NOLI bought San Jose Builders, the distributor of the Gadget...hmmm, kaya naman pala

[ghosthunter]

another khaos satisfied customer :D

[Freeman]

I am sorry to hear of Black Lynx experience with Khaos STC. I am glad that they finally gave a refund to put an end to his nightmare.

I believe it is unfair to judge the product as a hoax, on the other hand I can deluge this forum with hundreds of testimonies saying otherwise. But what for? It has been established in this particular thread, that testimonies (whether good or bad) don't hold water. As for Black Lynx testimony, I believe it, but his case may be the exception more than the rule.

Allow me to shed light on the other issues -

Yes Ford Makati is not a distributor. it is my understanding that Ford dealerships cannot sell products that are not authorized by Ford. However it is common knowledge that the owners of Ford Makati distribute Khaos and other non-Ford products through another organization.


I cannot confirm the rumor regarding Mr. de Castro.

[Bogeyman]

It has been established in this particular thread, that testimonies (whether good or bad) don't hold water.

No, apparently Ischaramoochie takes into consideration only the positive and favorable testimonies, not the more critical ones.

As for Black Lynx testimony, I believe it, but his case may be the exception more than the rule.

Already three Ford owners dissatisfied with Khaos, and they're still considered as exceptions? How many complaints are we waiting for before someone finally decides that the product NEEDS MORE WORK?

And another thing: please stop insulting our intelligence by endlessly quoting government "results" in your claims. We all know the government's track record when it comes to honesty and accuracy.

[BlueBimmer]

re the problem of the lynx right after installing Khaos, its as clear as daylight that Khaos caused that problem. very slim chance it was a simple coincidence.

[empy]

I believe it is unfair to judge the product as a hoax

i believe it's more than fair to judge it as a hoax until proven otherwise. as has been said repeatedly in this thread, this device has been around for decades in various iterations, and various consumer and scientific authorities have all come out and said that it does not work.

the burden of proof is on khaos to tell us why it's different. so far, all we've seen is a 30 year old test on a carb motor that incidentally provides damning evidence that khaos drastically increases three different types of harmful emissions.

[mazdamazda]

dapat isali sa Home TV Shopping ang KSTC. :bwahaha: