Khaos Super Gas Saver

[eks883]

1st off in order to establish a good image you have to establish credibilty muna. how can you establish credibility? by simply giving proven facts/data let people see. its that simple. just post some hard data. kase from a consumer point of view, mahirap yun maniwala lang sa claims, lalo na sa panahon ngayon hirap kumita pera diba.

2nd is, yung term na turbo charger nya is misleading, its not a turbo charger kaya pls don't call it that.

lastly, i've seen ads saying Khaos is available nationwide.But the thing is this product has to be installed, you said that dapat sa main office nyo install para hindi palpak. so dapat sa manila lang available yan product (assuming manila head office nyo) kase di qualified yun "branches". So the training quality of your installers is put into doubt na.

just want to point that out.

[ghosthunter]

Ghosthunter, have you spoken with Black Sentra regarding the Khaos thang... I asked him how the TG interview went and think you'll agree to his observations. ;)

I haven't talked to Mike regarding the interview with Planas. I've meet him (Mike) before though. I could almost guess his impressions though from the TG interview.

[Walter]

This means that the money back guarantee is also not true. There you have it, a customer that is not satisfied with your product and your company is trying to find a way to wiggle itself out of the situation.

[ghosthunter]

I guess motto ng Inventionhaus is, "There is another sucker born every minute".

[vinj]

I haven't talked to Mike regarding the interview with Planas. I've meet him (Mike) before though. I could almost guess his impressions though from the TG interview.

Hehe, i'm sure you do know his reaction to that. (what kind of guy would say that a catalytic converter is bad for the car? )...

[ghosthunter]

Hehe, i'm sure you do know his reaction to that. (what kind of guy would say that a catalytic converter is bad for the car? )...

given that the article was titled "Crankcase" ... hehehe

[kiper]

Panay ang advertisement nito sa radyo ha kasabay ng traffic report..pero wala akong naririnig na comment from the DJ's..

[vixen]

One moment you were asking the zero pollution thang . now here you are being exaggerated.

You said it yourself that your brother doesn't know anything about cars. I just hope they were listening while the automechanic explains the whole deal, why do they have to testdrive it and you know stuff like computations on your savings

hmmm.. I smell something....musty

[QOUTE=ghosthunter]should it matter[/QOUTE]

I guess, for verification ?

great!... more brainwashing and sales talk. :freak:

So who pays for the gas? :whoa:

Brainwashing...?? hmmm thats quite a heavy accusation.

and correction the inventor is not against catalytic converter. what he actually said was, that the catalytic converter is a post combustion device. I just don't know where'd you get that.

Did he actually say: "galit ako sa catalytic converter" ?

well, if he did, I guess I have to spank him

[ghosthunter]

One moment you were asking the zero pollution thang . now here you are being exaggerated.

uh-huh? Why are you complaining? Doesn't the consumer public have the right to ask questions about certain UNREALISTIC CLAIMS about products for sale?

BTW, are you saying that there isn't a Khaos brochure out there that has the words "zero pollution" claim on it?

You said it yourself that your brother doesn't know anything about cars. I just hope they were listening while the automechanic explains the whole deal, why do they have to testdrive it and you know stuff like computations on your savings

I said, my brother doesn't know much about cars... he knows enough, just that its not to the level of what I know. He may not have gone thru mechanical engineering in college but he did take commerce.

BTW, he knows enough to compute for the gas milage. Given he does run a medium size business, I think simple division is not out of his grasp.

Vixen, you already doubt the skills of the dealers/installers/automechanic to install your "device". You mentioned this already over and over again. If so, re-educate them IMMEDIATELY. Otherwise you own us a MONEYBACK guarantee of satisfaction for your product.

hmmm.. I smell something....musty

That might be the smell of your products rotting away in your storage room.

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should it matter

I guess, for verification ?

Then verify your own dealers/automechanics/etc, girl!

That is because it is the LEAST you owe your customers and potential customers, making sure that the devices are installed & working CORRECTLY and not needing another visit at the main office of inventionhaus.

Think of it this way. My brother knows at least 10 people interested in your product. They waited for my brother's comment if he says the device works. And since he didn't see any savings and worst, his vehicles' performance suffered, those 10 people will NEVER be buying your product. And each of those 10 people also knows 10 more people. And these are people of very good public reputation in their respective communities.

[GlennSter]

vixen, to spare you of more humiliation here in the board, i suggest that you stop commenting na about this here.SUGGESTION lang.walang mangyayari sa product niyo dito...

try mo nalang sa other boards..but i doubt kasi mga ayaw din nun sa khaos and they find this product stupid.

this thread will go on and on, but in the end, kita mo naman kung saan pupunta.

dalawa nalang kayo ni ghost nagtatalo eh.and i dont think you will win when what you are debating is about cars.kung about make ups and clothes, baka matalo mo pa siya.

im not biased, pero i find this thread very...errrmmm...pathetic na for the KHAOS.

so bago pa mahukay ng mas malalim, better stop na.

isang advice lang from a mod of this board.walang halong biased (never knew ghost personally...)

salamat!!!

[ghosthunter]

and correction the inventor is not against catalytic converter. what he actually said was, that the catalytic converter is a post combustion device. I just don't know where'd you get that.

Did he actually say: "galit ako sa catalytic converter" ?

well, if he did, I guess I have to spank him

Start spanking baby...

from TOP GEAR Philippines magazine (November 2004 issue) Page 32 :kodak:

Interviewer: How about those catalytic converters?

Pablo Planas: Catalytic converter is bad for the engine. It is placed before the muffler. It blocks pollution, thus, it affects the power of engine.

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Personally, since it blocks pollution, that should mean the exhaust gasses should be cleaner than without the catalytic converter, right?

[ghosthunter]

from TOP GEAR Philippines magazine (November 2004 issue) Page 32

interviewer: How many calls a day did you get after people got your number?

Pablo Planas: In three days, I got 2000 calls.

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Let me see... 3 days would mean 72 hours in a day.

2000 calls in 72 hours.

27.78 calls per hour average if Pablo Planas didn't sleep in three days.

Summary: Pablo talked about 2 minutes to each customer call. :debate:

[Walter]

Maybe he's also not very good with math?

[vixen]

My brother knows at least 10 people interested in your product. They waited for my brother's comment if he says the device works. And since he didn't see any savings and worst, his vehicles' performance suffered, those 10 people will NEVER be buying your product. And each of those 10 people also knows 10 more people. And these are people of very good public reputation in their respective communities.

that's frightening. :yawn:

well, sana nasira na din yung mga sasakyan [like your borther's] nung nagpakabit since nov of 2003.

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Thanks for the concern glenn....really. but but but

Humiliation..? I don't see any reason to feel humiliated, in the first place i don't know anybody here personally and I didn't brought this topic up nor started it.

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case close :threadmil:

[ghosthunter]

that's frightening. :yawn:

well, sana nasira na din yung mga sasakyan [like your borther's] nung nagpakabit since nov of 2003.

think of this... my brother never bothered telling you guys his results after having your device installed.

How many else out there has the same reaction/results?

Your indifference to your customer's satisfaction is very predictable. :down:

[kiper]

Should we just close this thread?

It seems to be just always getting off-the-topic.

[vixen]

I dont want to think ghosthunter because it's useless but let me tell you this... the device is earning millions already.It is not being ruthless or something.

And this reflect into one thing, Not all has the same result like your brother's, maybe it's not working for him but it is for others. Look, if your sibling weren't satisfied, so be it.

And about that interview, I chose not to further comment on that matter .

That's all. thank you

[Walter]

I dont want to think ghosthunter because it's useless but let me tell you this... the device is earning millions already.It is not being ruthless or something.

There's one born every minute ... so they say.

And this reflect into one thing, Not all has the same result like your brother's, maybe it's not working for him but it is for others. Look, if your sibling weren't satisfied, so be it.

The point here is ... Where is the refund???

[vixen]

The point here is ... Where is the refund???

naknampooh the bear...

claim it on the place kung saang lupalop sila nagpa install. sus.

anong klaseng tanong yan.

[Bogeyman]

That goes for you too, vixen: Anong klaseng sagot 'yan?

Refund? Uh-huh, sure. Yun eh kung malalampasan mo yung mga delaying tactics na siguradong gagawin ng Inventionhaus. Kesyo mali daw yung installation, with matching brainwash, este explanation on how Khaos "really does save you money on gas". You know, trying way too hard to convince you that your 6,500 hard-earned pesos didn't go to waste.

Dodging responsibility, I call it, hehe.