Khaos Super Gas Saver

[Bogeyman]

Walang may gusto. Hindi naman sasagutin ni Mr. Planas yun kung may mangyaring masama sa mga makina namin eh. 'Di na lang. :lol:

[Benji_DCP]

The KTSC is characterized as an airbleed device...and is similar to the many gadgets that were made by American companies but fortunate for them, they have the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) and the FTC (Federal Trade Commision) who have tested and studied many gadgets characterized under the air-bleed category gadget.

The results: Airbleed device offers no significant fuel savings!

Which Agency or Who do you think would be more credible?


Read On....
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/04/energysurf2002.htm

Facts or Fuelishness:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm

[niky]

Nice sites... should be stickied!

[pissword]

i have read in manila bulletin yesterday, november 10 kung sino man ang may newspaper dyan... na ayun kinabit nga ni noli sa car niya... and pumasa nga sa rigid testing ng FORD MAKATI at taiwan ito.

and isa pa PINAGKAGULUHAN sa recently held motor show ata sa GERMANY... not sure eh basta pinagkaguluhan siya coz may 40+ countries na gusto mag produce ng product. oh well i guess d lang si noli de castro ang natanga...

at may nag offer daw kay mr. planas ng $10,000,000 (DUH!!!)

[vixen]

The news that you saw on tv was Inventionhaus International Corp. 1st Anniv and KSTC grand launching.

Walang binayad kay Noli NOR may percent sya sa device. I met him personally. once when he visited Mr. Acuzar's office, And I could say He's a very down to earth person. There's no reason to change your outlook when it comes to VP and please stop creating malicious thoughts about his support. that's so childish. Isn't this one type of crab mentality?

note: Mr. Acuzar is a real state magnate who finance Planas inventions. He is also the Founder and Chairman of the Board of the company Inventionhaus International Corp. Meaning, this guy wont risk shelling out millions of pesos to finance the old man's business if its a fake. coz that would make him a fool.

Anyways going back to Noli , he wont endorse the product if it would only put mud on his name. As well as those other political figures who already expresses support of the product.

Have you seen the interview lastnight at ANC's Online with Gene Orejana. He's interested in giving support to the old man's invention too.

One more thing, I agree with Hero. I think there's something about pinoys that won't just go away even for years and that is the so-called Crab Mentality.

I read here of one of the members' reaction about that matter, said that it's not crab mentality. hmmm...I beg to disagree.

Any sour-graping or malicious thoughts about something is a kind of either insecurities or that of that.

And as I have observed after reading some more here of your different reactions, sorry to say this, but you're all acting like bunch of kids. bratty little tarts.

There's also one guy who mentioned about the number of countries who are interested in the distributorship. Yup its 43 countries. But of course, I cannot tell you what countries are they. Just wait for our press release, coming out soon.

Furthermore, have you seen topgear's october issue as well as Speed mag. They featured the old man.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......Anywayz, You can say whatever you wanna say. You are entitled to use your previlege and that is, to state your opinion. But, sa totoong buhay, all your talks err rants will just stay here.

....that won't go anywhere but here.

[banana_republic]

If those inventions are really that good, we should have seen major car manufacturers scrambling to include that as original equipment, particularly in the US where EPA emission requirements are stringent.

So far all I see are scrambling for half-baked claims and insults to the intelligence of this board and the Filipino people.

Instead of dwelling on our intelligence or lack therof and our crab mentality, why not post the plans showing the principle of the device and give us the results of tests done by taiwan and the other 43 countriies.

It's easy to claim that 43 countries have approved the use of the device, in the same way that I can claim that the rest of the 150+ countries in the UN have rejected it as a scam.

[JAYarc]

their is claimed that anoyyed me alot ZERO emession..

peace!

Patronized local product<<hehe

[JAYarc]

parang gusto ko na rin atang mag IMvento ng mga miracle gadgetry ahhh, since may konti naman ako background sa thermo..>>hehe

[pissword]

sir vixen i guess d mo nabasa yung reply nung taiwan based na company na sinasabi nilang nagconduct ng RIGID TESTING sa KHAOS na yan... at tingnan niyo po kung anu LANG PALA ang ginawa nung company

sir glenn.. pakipost ang link po nang mabasa ni sir vixen.

baka pagnabasa niyo po iyon... maiisip niyo na exagerated lang lahat ng mga info about dyan sa product na yan

[banana_republic]

ZERO emission only occurs if your car is not running...maybe there is truth to their claims;)

[tagalnasaabroad]

aba..si kabayan noli aka vp of the republic of pi product endorser narin pala ng kahos..

masasabi kolang wala akong binoto sa bise presidente..mas lalo lang akong di bumilib sa kahos..

mr moderator sir, ala ng mangyayari sa thread nato..paulit-ulit lang naman ang topics..kindly delete na lang pls..

[niky]

vixen... shut up.

Before you go around calling us bratty little kids... listen to this.

Politicians are politicians, they will do whatever serves their own interests.

KSTC in international shows? Inventionhaus released a news item saying it was going to be in the SEMA and AAPEX in the US, and that the KSTC would be tested there... go to the official websites. Neither Inventionhaus or the KSTC are listed among the THOUSANDS of exhibitors.

Foreign investors? Are these the same who offered millions to the inventor of the Water Car? (Who was proven to be a faker)... or to the inventor of the EGO?

Do you know why the Top Gear section Planas is featured in is called "Crankcase"? Please look it up...

The staunchest critics of these fuel savers are automotive engineers and mechanics... you said you read back... and you did not see this?

And read this:

Originally posted by Benji_DCP
The KTSC is characterized as an airbleed device...and is similar to the many gadgets that were made by American companies but fortunate for them, they have the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) and the FTC (Federal Trade Commision) who have tested and studied many gadgets characterized under the air-bleed category gadget.

The results: Airbleed device offers no significant fuel savings!

Which Agency or Who do you think would be more credible?


Read On....
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/04/energysurf2002.htm

Facts or Fuelishness:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm

This is OFFICIAL, and coming straight from the US FTC and EPA. Written by engineers... who HAVE concrete numbers, and who HAVE tested these devices.

read it again, and then please shut up... Maybe I'm acting like a bratty kid, but I don't like being insulted... ...again, I restate... I don't care if it's Pinoy, Taiwanese, or American... ALL of these products are CRAP.

Our talks won't go anywhere? Our message has already reached the ears of Nissan and Mitsubishi... and it's on its way to the Government. Our rants have weight, because we're not selling anything, we are trying to protect our fellow consumers, and our country.

Go ahead, call us foolish. We will continue this fight.

[empy]

Originally posted by vixen
Walang binayad kay Noli NOR may percent sya sa device. I met him personally. once when he visited Mr. Acuzar's office, And I could say He's a very down to earth person. There's no reason to change your outlook when it comes to VP and please stop creating malicious thoughts about his support. that's so childish. Isn't this one type of crab mentality?

note: Mr. Acuzar is a real state magnate who finance Planas inventions. He is also the Founder and Chairman of the Board of the company Inventionhaus International Corp. Meaning, this guy wont risk shelling out millions of pesos to finance the old man's business if its a fake. coz that would make him a fool.

Anyways going back to Noli , he wont endorse the product if it would only put mud on his name. As well as those other political figures who already expresses support of the product.

Have you seen the interview lastnight at ANC's Online with Gene Orejana. He's interested in giving support to the old man's invention too.

One more thing, I agree with Hero. I think there's something about pinoys that won't just go away even for years and that is the so-called Crab Mentality.

I read here of one of the members' reaction about that matter, said that it's not crab mentality. hmmm...I beg to disagree.

Any sour-graping or malicious thoughts about something is a kind of either insecurities or that of that.

And as I have observed after reading some more here of your different reactions, sorry to say this, but you're all acting like bunch of kids. bratty little tarts.

There's also one guy who mentioned about the number of countries who are interested in the distributorship. Yup its 43 countries. But of course, I cannot tell you what countries are they. Just wait for our press release, coming out soon.

bwahaha...this is funny. by the way, from your post and use of the phrase "our press release", i assume you are affiliated with KTSC. thank you for coming out to represent the other side.

i have two observations about your post:

1. Noli de Castro built his entire journalistic career on attacking and slandering individuals in public office. sure, many people deserved it, but how many decent public servants were destroyed by the innuendos and half-truths that this man served? and now he's the second-highest public official in the land? this sickens me.

i know that you're affiliating yourself with him because it helps your business, and i respect that, but please don't paint him to be a good, down-to-earth guy because that's bullshit.


2. i love how the pot is calling the kettle black here. we're bratty little kids with a bad case of crab mentality. however, please try to understand why our negativity: first, this scam of a product has been around for decades. second, despite repeated requests to publish independent, scientific proof that it does what it claims, no one anywhere has been able to do so. all we hear are testimonials, which is not enough.

so no offense, but we think you are a bunch of scammers. i hope your press release shows that scientific data we've been clamoring for, because that's the only way that you'll shut us up. if you can somehow prove that you've solved a problem that thousands of PhD's and billions of dollars of R&D haven't been able to for 50 years, then i will personally apologize to you.

[ghosthunter]

btw, a company who i used to work for, has had a first hand experience with Noli de CASH-tro. Typical "pay-us-or-we-will-air-a-bad-report-on-you" kind of thingie.

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by vixen
..... Just wait for our press release, coming out soon.

I guess Odee got replaced.... and guess by who. ;)

[EC248M]

Here we go again....

He endorsed maybe because of money. A lot of products endored by well known celebreties because of endosement fees or professional fees but not believing the product themselves.

[EC248M]

Originally posted by ghosthunter
I guess Odee got replaced.... and guess by who. ;)

Your guess is good as mine.;)

[bardigones]

sir ghost, sirit na po.... lol

[iq0]

Nagpa-install ako ng Khaos sa sedona v6 ko kahapon. Ok naman ah. Very obvious yung increase sa power sa arangkada. Torque ba ang tawag dun? 1 day ko pa lang ginagamit so di ko alam kung makakatipid. Pero kahit hindi, masaya na ako sa naging resulta kasi nga di na ako nahihirapan umalalay sa clutch kasi mas ok na ang arangkada nya.

Nagkukwento lang po. Wag nyo po akong tatawagin na sucker o scammer. Wag din nyo po akong aatakihin ng personal. Pakiusap lang po. Nung pumunta po ako sa pa-installan, ang nasa isip ko "masubukan nga". Kaya yun.... so far satisfied ako. Ang gus2 ko naman malaman ngayon eh kung saan makakapagpatest ng sinasabi na NOX emission. Kung meron po nakakaalam, I would be happy to subject my car for that test.

Thanks.

[mazdamazda]

Originally posted by vixen

One more thing, I agree with Hero. I think there's something about pinoys that won't just go away even for years and that is the so-called Crab Mentality.

I read here of one of the members' reaction about that matter, said that it's not crab mentality. hmmm...I beg to disagree.

Any sour-graping or malicious thoughts about something is a kind of either insecurities or that of that.

Does criticizing automatically mean that you are afflicted with Crab Mentality?

Heck, if you are so sensitive then let's see you reaction when you submit your device to the EPA for testing.

Originally posted by vixen


And as I have observed after reading some more here of your different reactions, sorry to say this, but you're all acting like bunch of kids. bratty little tarts....

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......Anywayz, You can say whatever you wanna say. You are entitled to use your previlege and that is, to state your opinion. But, sa totoong buhay, all your talks err rants will just stay here.

....that won't go anywhere but here.

it seems that your last comment is makes you more qualified than us for being bratty little tarts...

totoong buhay ba? how come NMPI responded to niky's letter?