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    #321
    Originally posted by ghosthunter
    Here's some info:

    IF you have bought the khaos device and for some reason you want to get the refund guarantee ... you'll need to have your vehicle tested by the people from khaos. They said the vehicle will be pumped full of gasoline then driven around for 15 kilometers. If and when they have verified that you didn't save any gas, they will refund your money.
    Eh, paano kung nagkaroon ng discrepancy? Kunyari para sa iyo, talagang sure ka na hindi ka nakatipid sa gas. Pero sasabihin ng mga taga-Khaos, tipid naman daw. Dapat may third party na magse-settle in the event of a dispute.

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    #322
    OT: gawa nga ako ng "Super Duper Max Fuel saver - Now enriched with micro nano particulates and carbon deposit enhibitors with molecular reconstruction properties"
    ... saves up to 60% on gasoline costs!

    hehehe, kelangan ko lang good marketing....

    btw, any updates on fuel usage for those who purchased these devices?

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    #323
    My brother's Chevy Venture and Ford Expedition both did NOT have any fuel savings for the month they had them. In fact, both vehicles had HP power loss and sluggish performance on the road.

    He had both vehicle's Khaos devices removed this week.

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    #324
    they're not just some people. they're automechanics.

    hmmm... just wanna ask where'd your brothers had it installed? I mean, san installation site or rather `sang branch?

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    #325
    its true that u can have your moneyback if somehow its not working.
    eitherway, the device can be replace prior to its factory defect.

    it is also true that, the expert mechanic will ask you to full your gas tank and subject you to have a drive test. while doing so, he will explain how does it saves gas.

    on your brother's case ghosthunter, it depends where they have it installed. one of our branches ba or sa main..?

    usually kase, pag may problem na ganyan, we advice them to go to the main...

    yun lang...
    Last edited by vixen; December 17th, 2004 at 10:20 PM.

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    #326
    Originally posted by vixen

    they're not just some people. they're automechanics.

    ===========

    usually kase, pag may problem na ganyan, ang cause, mechanics ng mga ibang branch. I mean palyado yung pagkakatrabaho. so they're advice to go to the main...

    vixen, you seem to contradicting yourself.

    So what you are saying is that the Inventionhaus trained automechanics are the root cause of the khaos problem.

    :freak:

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    #327
    Originally posted by vixen

    it is also true that, the expert mechanic will ask you to full your gas tank and subject you to have a drive test. while doing so, he will explain how does it saves gas.
    great!... more brainwashing and sales talk. :freak:

    So who pays for the gas? :whoa:

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    #328
    yes and no.

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    #329
    So what happened to Khaos' claim of more power and more gasoline milage?

    These are TWO typical vehicles :
    -Chevy Venture
    -Ford Expedition

    These aren't high performance machines. These are the kind used to go grocery shopping, fetching the kids from school, out of town trips, family outings, etc. Both are maitained by the respective casa on schedule. My brother might not know much of cars but in the very least he keeps a good maintenace sked on ALL of his vehicles.

    The sales brochure claim:
    SAVE GAS UP TO 50%
    SAVE MONEY
    MORE POWER
    ZERO POLLUTION


    The reality is:
    - no difference in gas milage what-so-ever
    - less overall engine power
    - sluggish performance
    - still more pollution than the claimed ZERO POLLUTION.
    - he wasted P13,000 for TWO Khaos thingies that does NOT do ANY of the dealers'/inventor's claims.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; December 17th, 2004 at 12:10 AM.

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    #330
    Originally posted by vixen
    yes and no.
    another contradiction? :freak:

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    #331
    BTW, the sales brochure also mentions this:

    Free Cleaning every 5,000 kms ...

    So whatever gas we might save, we waste it driving back and forth to your service center for cleaning...

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    #332
    where they have it installed? sa main ba or sa ibang branch?

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    #333
    Originally posted by vixen
    where they have it installed? sa main ba or sa ibang branch?
    Should it even matter?

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    #334
    anyweiz, I can't do anything about it. if they already have it removed .right?

    for now, let me shut my mouth and organized my thoughts and I'll get back to you..

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    #335
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmm........
    Last edited by vixen; December 17th, 2004 at 01:21 AM.

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    #336
    So it's either palpak yung produkto o palpak yung mekaniko. :whoa:

    Mga fellow consumers, ano naman ang laban natin dun? It's a lose-lose situation.

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    #337
    So remember..have your KSTC installed at the main branch only.

    Para di sayang ang pera.. Right?

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    #338
    Originally posted by kiper
    So remember..have your KSTC installed at the main branch only.

    Para di sayang ang pera.. Right?
    Palpak lang talaga yung device. Two vehicles installed with the same device. Both showed only less engine power as the result of the installation.

    And then here comes Vixen who's standard line is, "maybe it wasn't setup correctly by the people who installed it."

    I say the device never worked with EFI engines.

    Also, so what if the device was installed by Mr. Planas himself or some other mechanic trained by Inventionhaus.

    So what happened to those 30 YEARS of so-called product development? Ah yes, its because 30 years ago all gasoline engines had carburators and today its fuel injection and complex closed loop engine management systems.

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    #339
    [message deleted by ghosthunter]

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    Last edited by ghosthunter; December 17th, 2004 at 09:01 AM.

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    #340
    Ghosthunter, have you spoken with Black Sentra regarding the Khaos thang... I asked him how the TG interview went and think you'll agree to his observations. ;)

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