E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[uls]

Clarify lang po. Petron Shaw Blvd falsely RENAMES "E10" to "UNLEADED" to boost E10 sales.

I have no problem with them selling UNLEADED fuel. In fact yan nga yung hinahanap ko e. My problem is with them making you believe that your buying pure "unleaded" when in fact your buying "E10" pala by changing the label. Takaw kasi ng E10 e kaya ayaw ko.

Analogy: WHAT IF "regular" Coke lang iniinom mo then one day rere label ng Coca-Cola lahat ng Coke ( Coke Zero, Diet Coke ) nila into regular Coke kasi mahina benta ng Coke Zero. Panu kung ayaw mo lasa ng Coke Zero? No way of knowing kasi pareho na lahat label nila. Unfair naman yun to the consumers.

good analogy

it's like Coke relabels Coke Light as just Coke and you have to read the fine print to find out that it is really Coke with no sugar but with artificial sweetener

[Lucius]

good analogy

it's like Coke relabels Coke Light as just Coke and you have to read the fine print to find out that it is really Coke with no sugar but with artificial sweetener

Mind conditioning

[fibzzz]

actually malapit na daw i phase out ang "unleaded". dahil kelangan na ng 10% ethanol blend ang lahat ng gasoline.
what you can do if you really want the "pure unleaded" is asks if the one labeled unleaded is pure.

Yeah malapit na nga. ok lang naman i phase out nila e. Forced to buy XCS nalang i guess.

Yung MAIN POINT ko lang naman is Wag lang sana lolokohin mga tao sa mga labels nila. Hindi naman lahat ng tao kasing updated natin sa mga issues about E10 e. Kung malinaw sa labels nila edi may choice na bumili ng fuel na walang halo E10 para d ma apekto ang kotse na di bagay sa fuel na ito. Ako nga alam ko na phaphase out naloko pako e. Napansin ko nalang parang hirap bigla yung kotse tapos pagtingin ko sa resibo "unleaded E10" pala.

[alwayz_yummy]

only CALTEX nalang ata(as i know) sells REAL, non-10% ethanol unleaded.

shell unleaded, e10 na din, petron ganun na din.. ang v-power may ethanol na din..

XCS+, blaze, shell super prenium, caltex gold and silver nalang ang non-10% ethanol blended..

gulo-gulo na gasoline... buti pa diesel.. diesel lang....unless maglabas sila ng "diesel-prenium" na mas ok for crdi...

[alwayz_yummy]

*double post

[uls]

Seaoil din may halo ethanol

Cityoil dito sa Araneta ave QC wala daw halo ethanol

[CVT]

only CALTEX nalang ata(as i know) sells REAL, non-10% ethanol unleaded.

shell unleaded, e10 na din, petron ganun na din.. ang v-power may ethanol na din..

XCS+, blaze, shell super prenium, caltex gold and silver nalang ang non-10% ethanol blended..

gulo-gulo na gasoline... buti pa diesel.. diesel lang....unless maglabas sila ng "diesel-prenium" na mas ok for crdi...

For Shell,- is this true? When did the change take place?

8000:borg1:

[uls]

according to Shell Araneta ave cor Maria Clara QC

shell super unleaded wala ethanol

V power meron ethanol

[alwayz_yummy]

dito sa visayas avenue, unleaded dito is marketed as e10..kaya pareho lang sila ng price..37.15/l

[uls]

the Shell station here still sells super unleaded and E10 separately

[Zeus]

Dapat pag may E10, sabihin nila may E10 na halo, misleading yun binalik ang xtra unleaded ng Petron tapos may halong E10 pala

[impulzz]

yung shell sa blumentrit san juan separate pump pa din an shell unleaded at e10. so far constant ang milage ko. at tama ang hatak ng makina.

yung shell dun sa edsa after congresional towards balintawak... yun may halo kasi humina hatak ng vitara at lumaks consumo ng oto.

[ans_lim168]

That is not allowed, e-10 and unleaded gasoline should not be mixed.

[danesjr]

Yeah malapit na nga. ok lang naman i phase out nila e. Forced to buy XCS nalang i guess.

Yung MAIN POINT ko lang naman is Wag lang sana lolokohin mga tao sa mga labels nila. Hindi naman lahat ng tao kasing updated natin sa mga issues about E10 e. Kung malinaw sa labels nila edi may choice na bumili ng fuel na walang halo E10 para d ma apekto ang kotse na di bagay sa fuel na ito. Ako nga alam ko na phaphase out naloko pako e. Napansin ko nalang parang hirap bigla yung kotse tapos pagtingin ko sa resibo "unleaded E10" pala.

yeah i guess you're right. if it's E10 blend it should be labeled as such. they are misleading the people. maybe their sales went down because a lot people doesn't want an e10 blend.

[uls]

all they have is a small sticker on the pump that says it has ethanol

[Autobeat]

ang v-power may ethanol na din..

Yup, recently as I ran out of fuel, I went to the nearest gas station which happened to be Shell, to load up a few 95 octane fuel, until I get to my usual gas station. To my surprise, their V-Power was labeled with E10. I asked the attendant na E10 na ba yung velocity nila. Sabi niya sticker lang daw iyon, at pareho pa rin daw yung velocity kagaya ng dati. Did not risk it anymore, and went to the next gas station instead. Buti na lang umabot.

[Galactus]

Petron does label its products properly. May prominent sticker just above the Unleaded pump, clearly stating na may halong Ethanol yung unleaded nila, and recommended for EFI engines. I should know, naka-Petron Fleetcard kami for almost 2 years na (dati kasi Shell), and I'm quite particular about the fuel I load in my cars.

Going by the thread title kasi, Petron did nothing wrong. There was no false advertisement.

[swordsman]

Petron Shaw Blvd...is this the one sa may Wack-Wack? Not sure kung meron pa sa may bandang Kapitolyo which is Shaw Blvd pa rin yata.

[glntVR]

The Petron in EDSA Greenhills also confused me. Initially when they phased out all the regular unleaded, there were green colored e10 stickers beside the label "xtra".

Last week when I gassed up, those green colored stickers were not present anymore but I looked around and there was a yellow sticker on top explaining that their unleaded fuel has ethanol blablabla.

I guess not a lot of people want e10.

[beereo]

makakamura ka nga pero bababa naman mileage mo.