E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

**glenngj** · May 5th, 2008 04:23 PM

hindi lahat ng shell station may e10, kaya hindi ko pa nasusubukan, may pagbabago ba sa takbo? malakas ba hatak at tumaas ang FC?

**Mile2** · May 5th, 2008 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by sirmykel

pag naging P50+ na ang E10 were doomed!!!!

May VTEC pa naman

....................VTECleta

**1D4LV** · May 5th, 2008 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by sirmykel

pag naging P50+ na ang E10 were doomed!!!!

dyan nga tayo paktay. pero siguro ang isang litro ng regular unleaded nun is mga 52-53 pesos na, since E10 is 2 pesos cheaper.

pero this is reality, pwedeng umabot dyan ang price ng E10.

**ghosthunter** · May 5th, 2008 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by sirmykel

pag naging P50+ na ang E10 were doomed!!!!

We aren't too far from that. Before the P2.50 increase in gasoline prices, it was said that the total price increase was around P5/L to P6/L ... so I expect E10 prices hitting P51/L before the end of month (and unleaded to be at P53/L).

**1D4LV** · May 5th, 2008 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by glenngj

hindi lahat ng shell station may e10, kaya hindi ko pa nasusubukan, may pagbabago ba sa takbo? malakas ba hatak at tumaas ang FC?

im using E10 for the past four months. wala namang pagbabago sa hatak, although may minimal increase in FC (increase of around 10%).

**alwayz_yummy** · May 5th, 2008 04:46 PM

last night: topped up with 300 pesos of e10 * 47.xx/L shell visayas avenue, 7pm, 6.xxL all in all.

car: 1989 nissan maxima with CA20 2.0 carb engine.

fuel left in the tank: 1/4 tank = 50L/4 = approx. 12.5L left.

no immediate effects on engine perfomance, but on initial test, same consumption as when i used ordinary unleaded - mas matakaw over when im using super prenium/vpower/blaze ( old school engines

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**1D4LV** · May 5th, 2008 04:54 PM

http://www.doe.gov.ph/FAQ'S/ethanol.htm

just some information i got from the internet about E10.

**ghosthunter** · May 5th, 2008 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by 1D4LV

im using E10 for the past four months. wala namang pagbabago sa hatak, although may minimal increase in FC (increase of around 10%).

so in the end, you are actually spending MORE money than if you were using unleaded gasoline.

If your FC has increased by 10% and saving around 5% on the cost, your car's 5% more expensive on E10 gasoline.

**1D4LV** · May 5th, 2008 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

so in the end, you are actually spending MORE money than if you were using unleaded gasoline.

If your FC has increased by 10% and saving around 5% on the cost, your car's 5% more expensive on E10 gasoline.

yup. that's also the information available in the Internet.
but again, the reckoning point here is the cash on hand when filling up...

and besides, i really fill-up at the 1/4 level.

**jinrai** · May 5th, 2008 05:50 PM

Taken from http://www.doe.gov.ph/FAQ'S/ethanol.htm

"Can E10 unleaded be used in older cars?
The formulation of gasoline has changed dramatically over the past few years without affecting the performance of old cars. As the engine gets older, the octane requirements of the engine increase due to carbon formation in the pistons and combustion chambers. The bioethanol in E10 raises octane rating in gasoline and it does so using a natural, renewable additive that works well in older engines."

mukhang older cars would benefit more with this. i'll empty my tank first then try to fillup a quarter of a tank of e10. let's see kung magrereklamo oto ko.