E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[mey0r]

Hope this helps to those asking about E10.

http://e10unleaded.blogspot.com/

[dabz tom]

tanong lang mga tsikoters.. yong petron XCS ba ay unleaded din? kasi yong tank cover ko nakasulat use unleaded fuel only.. thanx

[shadow]

tanong lang mga tsikoters.. yong petron XCS ba ay unleaded din? kasi yong tank cover ko nakasulat use unleaded fuel only.. thanx

lahat ng fuel na binebenta dito are unleaded na....

[number001]

Will they also start mixing in ethanol into XCS and Blaze?

[Zeus]

Xtra unleaded ang gamit ko, kaso phase out na, sinubukan ko P500 E10 noong isang araw, napansin ko nguminginig ang sasakyan kapag naka hinto, tinanong ko kanina sa service adviser ng Ford, sabi hindi daw pwede E10 sa Ford, kailangan rin daw low octane, Shell ba meron 93 octane na walang E10?

[claRkEnt]

Xtra unleaded ang gamit ko, kaso phase out na, sinubukan ko P500 E10 noong isang araw, napansin ko nguminginig ang sasakyan kapag naka hinto, tinanong ko kanina sa service adviser ng Ford, sabi hindi daw pwede E10 sa Ford, kailangan rin daw low octane, Shell ba meron 93 octane na walang E10?

yup.. shell has extra unleaded which is equivalent to Petron's Xtra.. FOr Caltex naman, equivalent nya is the Silver.

[Zeus]

yup.. shell has extra unleaded which is equivalent to Petron's Xtra.. FOr Caltex naman, equivalent nya is the Silver.

Thanks, lilipat na ako sa Shell Extra unleaded

[number001]

I think if one of the big three shifts its regular unleaded into e10 then I think the others will follow. s_quillicot from the other thread mentioned something about Shell velocity being 97 ron now bec. it has a 10% ethanol blend mixed in (?).

[asmdriskell]

nice info sir....thanks.

[nplazaro]

Yep. Shell will also be phasing out its Unleaded with out E10. Nauna lang Petron sumunod sa Biofuels law. Eventually all Oil companies will follow with the Ethanol mix sa unleaded gasoline.

[macgyver1432000]

Palibhasa kasi yung mga nasa itaas, eh puro de-EFIs ang mga sasakyan nila. Magpasa rin kaya sila ng resolusyon na yung may mga may-ari na sasakyan na may carb eh papalitan ng mga taga-itaas ng EFI?

[number001]

Passed by a Petron station along J. Abad Santos this morning and they had a streamer that says "Xtra Unleaded is available again" (or something to that effect). I didn't check if its really available.

[fibzzz]

Is this allowed? A few weeks back Petron Shaw blvd branch stopped selling unleaded fuel. It replaced unleaded with e10. Alot of people complained na matakaw daw yung e10. i personally saw my mileage drop.

this week however, nawala bigla yung e10 tapos bumalik yng unleaded. TURNS OUT Petron changed the name of "E10" to "Unleaded". According to the gas boy "Unldeaded parin yan...may halo lang ng e10". I asked why they changed the name he said "Hinde mabenta yung E10 marami may ayaw...pinapalit yung pangalan sa unleaded para mas malakas yung benta".

IS THIS ALLOWED? Panu kung hindi pwede sa kotse mo yung E10? sorry ka nalng? IS this an isolated case or are other Petrons out there doing the same thing?

If you look closely at the reciept, it is the only place you will see that the unleaded fuel you bought is actually "Unleaded E10". Other than that lahat ng signs sa gas station ( fuel pumps to the billboard ) puro unleaded lang nakalagay. Parang false advertisment ata to? Pwede ba i sumbong sa DTI? Kawawa naman mga masiraan ng makina bec of this.

[Chadmack]

langya! nadadaya na tayo sa presyo ng gasolina pati ba naman sa ganyan. dapat ireport sa DTI yan! kung nde lang sa Shaw yan, pwede na ipaabot sa senado yan at siguradong me aaksyon agad lalo na tungkol sa gas...

[scharnhorst]

Sneaky!

Lagot ang mga hindi naka-EFI pag ganyan

[badbadtz.carlo]

Passed by a Petron station along J. Abad Santos this morning and they had a streamer that says "Xtra Unleaded is available again" (or something to that effect). I didn't check if its really available.

mga paps, i checked this out sa area namen, Mecedes Ave, Pasig na Petron,
It is true, that Xtra Unleaded ang branding, but if you look closely at the pump, meron yellow sticker stating na 10% Ethanol na cia. I asked the Attendants dun. sabi nila, panget daw reception ng mga tao sa E10, kaya they(Petron Mgmt) took out the Green colored pumps and placed the old red ones for Xtra Unleaded. so in short, E10 pa ren cia, na branded as Xtra with 10% Ethanol... i tried it with an empty tank, E10 cia. mahina hatak...

XCS na lang ulet ako, kahit mahal...

[Galactus]

Well, technically, Petron did nothing wrong. All gasoline variants here, kesyo Premium, Blaze, Techron Gold, Ethanol-blend (E-10), V-Power ay UNLEADED.

Bawal na kasi magbenta ng leaded gasoline, per the Clean Air Act.

It's just a marketing move on their part. Hanap na lang ng ibang gas stations.

[fibzzz]

Well, technically, Petron did nothing wrong. All gasoline variants here, kesyo Premium, Blaze, Techron Gold, Ethanol-blend (E-10), V-Power ay UNLEADED.

Bawal na kasi magbenta ng leaded gasoline, per the Clean Air Act.

It's just a marketing move on their part. Hanap na lang ng ibang gas stations.

Clarify lang po. Petron Shaw Blvd falsely RENAMES "E10" to "UNLEADED" to boost E10 sales.

I have no problem with them selling UNLEADED fuel. In fact yan nga yung hinahanap ko e. My problem is with them making you believe that your buying pure "unleaded" when in fact your buying "E10" pala by changing the label. Takaw kasi ng E10 e kaya ayaw ko.

Analogy: WHAT IF "regular" Coke lang iniinom mo then one day rere label ng Coca-Cola lahat ng Coke ( Coke Zero, Diet Coke ) nila into regular Coke kasi mahina benta ng Coke Zero. Panu kung ayaw mo lasa ng Coke Zero? No way of knowing kasi pareho na lahat label nila. Unfair naman yun to the consumers.

[danesjr]

actually malapit na daw i phase out ang "unleaded". dahil kelangan na ng 10% ethanol blend ang lahat ng gasoline.
what you can do if you really want the "pure unleaded" is asks if the one labeled unleaded is pure.

[uls]

^^^

that was my point all along

it's E10

but Petron relabeled it as Xtra unleaded