Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 3]

[shibby75]

Caltex also sells longlife red coolant. Much better than the green ones which needs replacing every 2 years.

[bakaldos]

Guys, mas ok ba yung diesel engine kaysa gasoline engine? For family lang naman gagamitin ito. Pang araw araw.

subjective po kasi ang "mas ok".

Diesel:
Mas matipid sa fuel cost and consumption
Mas malakas humatak sa akyatan
Mas mabilis sa rektahan

Gas:
Mas tahimik
Mas mabilis sa arangkada
Mas mura mga pyesa
Minimal ang usok


personal observation ko lang po yan, please correct me if i'm wrong mga innova experts.

[cast_no_shadow]

Guys, mas ok ba yung diesel engine kaysa gasoline engine? For family lang naman gagamitin ito. Pang araw araw.

To cut it short.

both have its pros and cons.

[MrQ5]

other says it is advisable to change coolant every max 20k, due to the changes in chemistry of the coolant as it will become slightly acidic iirc the advise for the maintenace of cooling system.

[Retz]

Is that the pinkish one?

where can i buy?

yup, sa toyota casa mismo sir.

[cast_no_shadow]

yup, sa toyota casa mismo sir.

Bro i sent you a PM.

[homhomnova]

Guys, mas ok ba yung diesel engine kaysa gasoline engine? For family lang naman gagamitin ito. Pang araw araw.

for ride comfort and less headache.. go for VVTi..

kung tatakbo ka ng 15K km or higher per year.. go for diesel..

[Retz]

Bro i sent you a PM.

Pm read and replied sir

[Retz]

other says it is advisable to change coolant every max 20k, due to the changes in chemistry of the coolant as it will become slightly acidic iirc the advise for the maintenace of cooling system.

Sa toyota jas every 40k replace all fluids that is including coolant. Fyi

[fourtheboys96]

Guys, mas ok ba yung diesel engine kaysa gasoline engine? For family lang naman gagamitin ito. Pang araw araw.

D4D's supposedly have a lifespan but who really knows. It all boil down to proper maintenance.
I don't like diesel vehicles before especially my brother's Isuzu Fuego. I can smell the fumes in my room in the 2nd floor hahaha.
But my perspective changed because of the CRDi. So to make the long story short, we bought a diesel vehicle although it is a Toyota Innova.

First, diesel fuel is cheaper. So there is a psychological effect of having to spend less on every trip to the fuel pump. In the long run, gas and diesel vehicles probably cost the same to operate. But I like this psychological effect of cheaper fuel hehehe.

Diesel engines have more torque (hatak) but can rev less than gasoline engines. IMO, gasoline engines can reach a faster speed than diesel. Yung Innova D4d namin iyak na sa 135kph (3500rpm). I assume 3K rpm is nothing to gas engines.

Maintenance wise, I haven't experienced the higher cost for diesel since 5000km pa lang yung sasakyan.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to personal preference.

[Retz]

^

1st gear pa lang nakaka 3k rpm na gas engine. which engine last longer or has the greater life span diesel or gas assuming both have the same mileage and virtually pms was done religiously.

[siopaonatoasted]

I think the gasoline engine will outlast the diesel engine, mas mababa ang chamber pressure ng gasoline engines compared sa diesel engines.

Pero based dun sa nabasa ko, after ko sagutin ang thread, diesel will outlast the gasoline engine because of the fact that diesel engines were designed to handle the pressure of exploding fuels na mas malakas compared to gas and mas mababa ang rpm ng diesel engines.

[shibby75]

Mas matibay talaga ang diesel kesa gas engine, dahil na din sa low revving sya. Gas revs twice as fast as diesel, hence diesel more or less twice the life span.

Kaso sa diesel, maraming factor ang nagpapahaba ng lifespan, maintenance,clean fuel. Mas madami din parts that can go wrong sa diesel, 2 fuel pump,turbo electeonics.

Dati nga ang gas tatakbo kahit blowby na, ang diesel with a loss compression di na yan tatakbo kasi compression ignition ang diesel.

[siopaonatoasted]

4D56 paps, tatakbo kahit blowby na huwehehehe....

Yup sa maintenance, matindi ang diesel kaya we cannot compare rin ang maintenance ng gas at diesel, sa diesel kapag may pinalitan ka, butas ang bulsa mo.

[jrn29]

Guys, mas ok ba yung diesel engine kaysa gasoline engine? For family lang naman gagamitin ito. Pang araw araw.

go for gas kung marami kang pang gasolina ! hehe, peru mukang mas kaylangan mo ng diesel kasi pang family for sure madalas ang out of town . mas malakas kasi sa ahunan ang mga diesel engine .

ok naman ang diesel hindi naman basta basta masisira yan, dapat alaga lang talaga sa maintenance, and mas matipid kasi ang fc ng diesel kumpara sa vvt-i , ;)

[Capsaul]

maganda ba upgrade yung rear drumbreaks to discbrakes?

[shibby75]

Magpa convert din sana ako ng drum to disk brakes, Runstop sells kits that fits the innova. Sells it for 50k.

[CVT]

D4D's supposedly have a lifespan but who really knows. It all boil down to proper maintenance.
I don't like diesel vehicles before especially my brother's Isuzu Fuego. I can smell the fumes in my room in the 2nd floor hahaha.
But my perspective changed because of the CRDi. So to make the long story short, we bought a diesel vehicle although it is a Toyota Innova.

First, diesel fuel is cheaper. So there is a psychological effect of having to spend less on every trip to the fuel pump. In the long run, gas and diesel vehicles probably cost the same to operate. But I like this psychological effect of cheaper fuel hehehe.

Diesel engines have more torque (hatak) but can rev less than gasoline engines. IMO, gasoline engines can reach a faster speed than diesel. Yung Innova D4d namin iyak na sa 135kph (3500rpm). I assume 3K rpm is nothing to gas engines.

Maintenance wise, I haven't experienced the higher cost for diesel since 5000km pa lang yung sasakyan.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to personal preference.

Yes, it is "nothing" to gas engine... However, for the 4 A/T Innova configuration,- it translates only to 100KPH.

One more thing,- the price difference between the gas and diesel variants for the same transmission is roughly P65K (diesel is of course more expensive)...

Assuming 8Km/L for gas (at P50/L) and 10Km/L for diesel (at P40/L),- and same maintenance costs for both, then at 29KKm,- you paid P181,250 for gasoline and P116,000 for diesel.... And so, if you're the owner of the diesel variant, then you save P65,250.... The difference is paid for....

19.3K:chop:

[CVT]

Magpa convert din sana ako ng drum to disk brakes, Runstop sells kits that fits the innova. Sells it for 50k.

I think the braking power of the Innova (based on my limited experience with the gasoline variant), is adequate. So, I will not consider upgrading the rear to disk brakes....

19.3K:chop:

[cast_no_shadow]

maganda ba upgrade yung rear drumbreaks to discbrakes?

Magpa convert din sana ako ng drum to disk brakes, Runstop sells kits that fits the innova. Sells it for 50k.

I think the braking power of the Innova (based on my limited experience with the gasoline variant), is adequate. So, I will not consider upgrading the rear to disk brakes....

19.3K:chop:

+1

it's designed that way

and it ain't broke why fix it?