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    #11081
    Quote Originally Posted by supercar10 View Post
    guys did you stay and binantayan innova niyo during its 1000 and 5000km pms? i just got back my innova awhile ago from its 1000km sched maintenance and it cost me a whooping P3800.

    thing is, i didn't stay and see my car being serviced, is toyota cubao a righteous (honest) casa like talagang seservisan car ko?
    i would agree if you have your car serviced maybe in provinces because fully synthetic oil is a bit expensive in some provinces, but talking about toyota cubao and its your 1k pms, expensive nga

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    #11082
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    Correction. The model I saw is 2009 model or the new facelift from late last year.

    Old or new body panel, I think it can be made to look like 2005 or 2009 because their differences only lie with the headlights, taillights, and bumpers. They can be interchanged around.
    The new rear bumper won't fit on an '05 if there's a mudguard installed. The new grille won't fit on an '05 since the shape of the front bumper is different. The panels aren't exactly the same.

    I also saw a few black '09 J-variants. Dunno about that.
    Last edited by roberto_minosa; October 9th, 2009 at 10:00 AM.

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    #11083
    Quote Originally Posted by forceG View Post
    thats what they would always say naman talaga po sa casa, but in fairness maybe its true, mine is G m/t D4D so far so good pa naman, my odo now 8k+ in 4 months period pa lang(hilig kasi roadtrip w/ family) no problem encountered so far, except sa tires na napako causing big hole.
    thanks po.. Im worried kasi, am planning to buy innova this yr end.
    worried ako baka after mga 2 or 3 yrs bglain ako ng car na masira
    yung mga maj parts like fuel pump, etc.... my officemate have innova G D4D,. kaka 3 yrs lang nitong aug.. then nagpacheck sya sa casa , kc nagcho-choke sya minsan & pinacheck lang nya.. sira na daw fuel pump & it cost 75k daw..& i order pa daw sa thailand yung parts...hehe garbe nmn. tapos ang problem is 3yrs na daw ang unit..expired na hindi na raw cover ng warranty.. nagreklamo officemates ko & filed an appeal. yun kinausap mga bossing ng toyota & tinanggap pa. Kase possible na early this year pa nasisira yun & hndi nman dapat talga masisira yung fuel pump at that early.. yun ni cover na ng warranty.. yun lang isa sya sa mga hundreds of queued customers na nasiraan ng fuel pump. imagine. sino hindi matatakot na bumili..hehe.=P share lang po

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    #11084
    The older D4D Innovas were notorious for choking due to failing fuel lines. So far, there have been no reports of '09 Innovas with problematic fuel systems. The car not being upright is a bigger issue now.

    btw, pls dnt post in txt. its rly hrd 2 read dat. n mods wil get angry.

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    #11085
    Quote Originally Posted by forceG View Post
    agree, my wife is also a govt. employee medyo mahirap nga kumaha budget para repaint,
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    There has been cases of people repainting their Innova "G" into other unavailable colors in the variant. I have seen a white "G" as well a black (back in 2005-2006 when it was not yet available). But to deliberately repaint a "J" and it being a gov't vehicle, I find this highly unlikely.
    I also saw one cruising at edsa taft and i think its a stock paint. Mukhang may contact lang sila s plant or marami lang silang kinuhang unit kaya nakakuha sila ng black. I almost got a black E, kaso hindi na namin macontact yung kakilala namin s plant. I got blaze instead.

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    #11086
    Quote Originally Posted by roberto_minosa View Post
    The car not being upright is a bigger issue now.
    .
    ano po ibig sabihin?

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    #11087
    This is off-topic. Just want to share this beautiful article from TopGear. Love your ride!

    The Real Meaning of Luxury
    by Paulo Subido October 09, 2009


    1.) You are cruising along EDSA in your 1.6-liter econo-box doing a reasonable 80kph without a care in the world, when all of a sudden a Porsche 911 comes roaring at you from behind. At first it is a speck in your rearview, and within seconds it blasts through to the horizon ahead. Wow. You then wonder what it is like to be behind the wheel of a machine that can effortlessly glide to speeds twice what your own car can achieve.

    2.) You are at a car club meet with your buddies who pamper their subcompact Japanese sedans. Each of you spent the whole day detailing your cars and are beaming with pride. A Nissan GT-R then pulls up in front of your group and parks close by. Your club's thunder is stolen and all of you can't help but drool.


    3.) You have a classy event to attend at the ballroom of Shangri-La Makati and you pull up to the lobby. Your date is absolutely lovely, but your ride looks very small (and cheap) in comparison to the big Benzes and BMWs lined up at the front. You love your ride, but at that moment you wish that you could be ferrying your date in style-particularly when she says to drop her off away from the entrance and quickly stumbles out of your car to avoid being seen.


    These three scenarios happen all the time. It can't be helped that image and presentation counts for plenty in this city. Who am I to judge how things work around here, though? What I do know is that I'm a car nut with a deep appreciation for machinery and engineering. If you surf TopGear.com and read the magazine you probably are car nuts, too. Now, here's the thing: I consider myself privileged and honored to have a job like this. I get to drive all sorts of cars, and with this ‘duty' a new way of seeing things developed for me. Never do I feel bad about not owning the awesome Subaru WRX STi, the killer BMW 7-Series, or the gangster Chrysler 300C Hemi. I've driven them and loved the experiences, but I'm always careful to keep my feet on the ground. Truth be told, I would rather drive my '97 Lancer every day. I don't envy the lucky owners of these cars, nor do I make assumptions based on somebody's wheels. Although, I do try to flex my powers of observation whenever I get the chance.


    Whenever I see a car I sometimes wonder what the owner is like (keeping in mind that I learned a very long time ago that if you judge a man by what car he drives, you still have much to learn). It shouldn't be about the car, actually. What I am observant about is if the ride-regardless of whether it is BMW M3 or Chery QQ-is in good shape. Do the wheels have sufficient tread? Are the taillights, headlights, signal lights and wipers working? Are essential bits and pieces missing from the bodywork? Does it belch smoke? Are the shock absorbers still alive? Those are the "important" things that catch my attention. When I see a car that is in good working order, it tells me all that I need to know-that the owner gives a damn about his (and his family's) safety, and of course, the safety of the countless others that share the road with him. That says plenty enough, regardless of how much the car costs. But, I am human and forget this sometimes. There are countless situations that conspire to remind me about this, though.


    I was at the neighborhood car wash one Sunday afternoon. The car I was driving was a very luxurious Mercedes-Benz C 180 lent to me by CATS Motors for the weekend. I will admit that it felt great to be behind the wheel of that thing. Really, you know upon driving it why it costs P2.58 million. While sitting and admiring the Benz's rear end, a white Kia Pride parked beside "my" Mercedes to get a wash. I hate to admit this now but for a second I felt so smug. But then I had to stop myself after this scene transpired before me: The Pride was in immaculate shape-no dents or scratches. An even bigger surprise was how the owner and his toddler son were helping the washboys clean the Pride, while the mother sat patiently and lovingly watched her two "boys." There was obvious attachment and dedication to the car there. Dare I say that the owner was real proud of his wheels, and his son was getting a kick out of helping his dad clean it. It was then that I felt like such a schmuck for looking down on that "lowly" Pride-especially as it seemed like a well-loved member of their family. Needless to say it was another one of those poignant moments for me- and I wanted to kick myself in the head.


    The lesson that I want to impart is to love the car that you are driving-whether it is an owner-type jeepney, a Japanese sedan from the early nineties, or a secondhand Tamaraw FX. Keep it in good running order at all times with proper maintenance, fixing what needs fixing as soon as possible.


    Practice driving safely a defensively, too. When you get the chance, learn techniques from the racing pros so that when you finally get your hands on that German or Japanese sports car you will know how to truly enjoy it-without causing an accident.
    Lastly, don't ever take your car for granted. When you think about it, in this third-world country of ours even just owning an automobile is a luxury in itself. It's all a matter of perspective-just like how for many using a taxi is considered ‘splurging' when one can take a jeep instead.


    You will have the car of your dreams one day. It is always good to aspire for something special and work hard to get it. And believe me, when you do have that BMW, Mercedes, or Lexus in your garage, you will look back and have fond memories of that bucket you used to drive.


    That Porsche that just flew passed you like your car was standing still? Keep in mind that it takes plenty of skill to handle a high-performance machine like that, the fundamentals of which you can learn with any car-regardless of the price. Start practicing basic car control. It won't be any less fun in your econo-box. That guy who owns the GT-R? Instead of just being awe-struck, why not approach him? He may be friendly person, and if you are lucky he may even take you around the block. Oh, and that girl who doesn't want to be seen riding your economy car? She definitely isn't worth it.

    I think a life without hang-ups will be a luxurious one. Should that be the case, let's start living it up!

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    #11088
    Quote Originally Posted by neoscript View Post
    Hi guys,

    Help me naman po.. to all 2009 model Innova owner pref. D4D, please
    info naman if meron pa problem sa engine ng toyota. One of the SA
    kase told me that for 2009 models eh fixed na daw yung mga problems
    ng D4D,.. how true. share your experiences nman po. Thanks.

    P.S.
    To all 2009 model VVTi 2.0 .Fuel consumption naman po dyan. updates
    lang about FC ng new auto nyo.Thanks much.

    so far, haven't heard of any choking, hardstarting or black smoke problems on the 2009 model.

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    #11089
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    This afternoon, parked across the Court of Appeals, is a '08 black Innova J D-4D. Yes, black in J variant trims! Red plates (gov't vehicle). AFAIk, black is not a standard for J variant. Is this a special release?

    I also noticed in one of the pictures of the Innova Club's tour of the Toyota Plant in Sta. Rosa last year ( i think?), there was a black Innova trimmed in the E variant.

    we also asked that when we had the plant tour last year... they said that you can request for a color that you want even if it is not standard on a particular variant... but the dealerships will be the one to have the unit repainted.

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    #11090
    Quote Originally Posted by Dudee View Post
    pahabol na tanong, naayos na po ba ang shock sa likod or sirain pa rin?

    ok na po yung sa shocks... in the event na masira... you can always claim it naman as long as under warranty pa ride nyo.

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    #11091
    Quote Originally Posted by Dudee View Post
    ano po ibig sabihin?
    Sometimes a defective car doesn't have the same ride height on either side.

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    #11092
    Quote Originally Posted by neoscript View Post
    thanks po.. Im worried kasi, am planning to buy innova this yr end.
    worried ako baka after mga 2 or 3 yrs bglain ako ng car na masira
    yung mga maj parts like fuel pump, etc.... my officemate have innova G D4D,. kaka 3 yrs lang nitong aug.. then nagpacheck sya sa casa , kc nagcho-choke sya minsan & pinacheck lang nya.. sira na daw fuel pump & it cost 75k daw..& i order pa daw sa thailand yung parts...hehe garbe nmn. tapos ang problem is 3yrs na daw ang unit..expired na hindi na raw cover ng warranty.. nagreklamo officemates ko & filed an appeal. yun kinausap mga bossing ng toyota & tinanggap pa. Kase possible na early this year pa nasisira yun & hndi nman dapat talga masisira yung fuel pump at that early.. yun ni cover na ng warranty.. yun lang isa sya sa mga hundreds of queued customers na nasiraan ng fuel pump. imagine. sino hindi matatakot na bumili..hehe.=P share lang po
    he he he.. same sentiments lang pala tayo. having read the thread about d4d problems further heightens my worries about d4d, but anyway im still hoping that SA's are true to their words that they already addressed the issue because if not, i'll start saving for my outlay when trouble comes. anyway I love my car still performing well, and really sreved its purpose to me.

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    #11093
    querry lang po mga ka innova, balak ko po kasing palitan ang stock headlight bulb ko ng 90/100 watts na bulb yung super white po, ang tanong ko po, kailangan pa ba na my relay yung bulb at kailangan din ba palitan ng ceramic yung holder? mahina kasi ang stock na bulb.

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    #11094
    Quote Originally Posted by liv View Post
    we also asked that when we had the plant tour last year... they said that you can request for a color that you want even if it is not standard on a particular variant... but the dealerships will be the one to have the unit repainted.
    That wouldn't be factory paint anymore and not to mention the added cost of a "hilamos" on top of the vehicle purchase price.

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    #11095
    Quote Originally Posted by matrixxx_90210 View Post
    good day to my fellow innova owners.
    patulong naman po ask ko lang po kung san po pwede makabili or magpa fabricate ng pangsungkit duon sa may reserva ng gulong natin nawawala kasi and mahirap pagbumabyahe ng malayo. thanks very much for your early reply.
    Nagpagawa ako sa Banados sa Evangelista (Php500), stainless steel ang ginamit nila...

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    #11096
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    That wouldn't be factory paint anymore and not to mention the added cost of a "hilamos" on top of the vehicle purchase price.

    correctemundo!

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    #11097
    Quote Originally Posted by forceG View Post
    i would agree if you have your car serviced maybe in provinces because fully synthetic oil is a bit expensive in some provinces, but talking about toyota cubao and its your 1k pms, expensive nga
    I got our Innova PMS (5k) at TQA. I followed everyone's advice to have our Innova serviced to authorized Toyota service center.

    I paid 1.5k all in all. They use mineral oil, changed oil filter, added coolant, check other fluids.

    Un lang ba tlga ang ginagawa sa PMS?

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    #11098
    Quote Originally Posted by fritzdm View Post
    I got our Innova PMS (5k) at TQA. I followed everyone's advice to have our Innova serviced to authorized Toyota service center.

    I paid 1.5k all in all. They use mineral oil, changed oil filter, added coolant, check other fluids.

    Un lang ba tlga ang ginagawa sa PMS?
    yes sir afaik, nasa 5k odo pa lang po kaya mostly small maintenance check pa lang yan sir, unless you encountered unexpected trouble sa ride nyo(knock on wood) wag naman sana. yung mechnic nga ng toyota na nag check ng ride ko at my last PMS even told me na sana daw ganun pa rin gagawin nya come 10k odo.

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    #11099
    Quote Originally Posted by forceG View Post
    yes sir afaik, nasa 5k odo pa lang po kaya mostly small maintenance check pa lang yan sir, unless you encountered unexpected trouble sa ride nyo(knock on wood) wag naman sana. yung mechnic nga ng toyota na nag check ng ride ko at my last PMS even told me na sana daw ganun pa rin gagawin nya come 10k odo.
    well sana nga.. thanks!

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    #11100
    Quote Originally Posted by matrixxx_90210 View Post
    good day to my fellow innova owners.
    patulong naman po ask ko lang po kung san po pwede makabili or magpa fabricate ng pangsungkit duon sa may reserva ng gulong natin nawawala kasi and mahirap pagbumabyahe ng malayo. thanks very much for your early reply.
    Quote Originally Posted by Robenson View Post
    This is off-topic. Just want to share this beautiful article from TopGear. Love your ride!

    The Real Meaning of Luxury
    by Paulo Subido October 09, 2009


    1.) You are cruising along EDSA in your 1.6-liter econo-box doing a reasonable 80kph without a care in the world, when all of a sudden a Porsche 911 comes roaring at you from behind. At first it is a speck in your rearview, and within seconds it blasts through to the horizon ahead. Wow. You then wonder what it is like to be behind the wheel of a machine that can effortlessly glide to speeds twice what your own car can achieve.

    2.) You are at a car club meet with your buddies who pamper their subcompact Japanese sedans. Each of you spent the whole day detailing your cars and are beaming with pride. A Nissan GT-R then pulls up in front of your group and parks close by. Your club's thunder is stolen and all of you can't help but drool.


    3.) You have a classy event to attend at the ballroom of Shangri-La Makati and you pull up to the lobby. Your date is absolutely lovely, but your ride looks very small (and cheap) in comparison to the big Benzes and BMWs lined up at the front. You love your ride, but at that moment you wish that you could be ferrying your date in style-particularly when she says to drop her off away from the entrance and quickly stumbles out of your car to avoid being seen.


    These three scenarios happen all the time. It can't be helped that image and presentation counts for plenty in this city. Who am I to judge how things work around here, though? What I do know is that I'm a car nut with a deep appreciation for machinery and engineering. If you surf TopGear.com and read the magazine you probably are car nuts, too. Now, here's the thing: I consider myself privileged and honored to have a job like this. I get to drive all sorts of cars, and with this ‘duty' a new way of seeing things developed for me. Never do I feel bad about not owning the awesome Subaru WRX STi, the killer BMW 7-Series, or the gangster Chrysler 300C Hemi. I've driven them and loved the experiences, but I'm always careful to keep my feet on the ground. Truth be told, I would rather drive my '97 Lancer every day. I don't envy the lucky owners of these cars, nor do I make assumptions based on somebody's wheels. Although, I do try to flex my powers of observation whenever I get the chance.


    Whenever I see a car I sometimes wonder what the owner is like (keeping in mind that I learned a very long time ago that if you judge a man by what car he drives, you still have much to learn). It shouldn't be about the car, actually. What I am observant about is if the ride-regardless of whether it is BMW M3 or Chery QQ-is in good shape. Do the wheels have sufficient tread? Are the taillights, headlights, signal lights and wipers working? Are essential bits and pieces missing from the bodywork? Does it belch smoke? Are the shock absorbers still alive? Those are the "important" things that catch my attention. When I see a car that is in good working order, it tells me all that I need to know-that the owner gives a damn about his (and his family's) safety, and of course, the safety of the countless others that share the road with him. That says plenty enough, regardless of how much the car costs. But, I am human and forget this sometimes. There are countless situations that conspire to remind me about this, though.


    I was at the neighborhood car wash one Sunday afternoon. The car I was driving was a very luxurious Mercedes-Benz C 180 lent to me by CATS Motors for the weekend. I will admit that it felt great to be behind the wheel of that thing. Really, you know upon driving it why it costs P2.58 million. While sitting and admiring the Benz's rear end, a white Kia Pride parked beside "my" Mercedes to get a wash. I hate to admit this now but for a second I felt so smug. But then I had to stop myself after this scene transpired before me: The Pride was in immaculate shape-no dents or scratches. An even bigger surprise was how the owner and his toddler son were helping the washboys clean the Pride, while the mother sat patiently and lovingly watched her two "boys." There was obvious attachment and dedication to the car there. Dare I say that the owner was real proud of his wheels, and his son was getting a kick out of helping his dad clean it. It was then that I felt like such a schmuck for looking down on that "lowly" Pride-especially as it seemed like a well-loved member of their family. Needless to say it was another one of those poignant moments for me- and I wanted to kick myself in the head.


    The lesson that I want to impart is to love the car that you are driving-whether it is an owner-type jeepney, a Japanese sedan from the early nineties, or a secondhand Tamaraw FX. Keep it in good running order at all times with proper maintenance, fixing what needs fixing as soon as possible.


    Practice driving safely a defensively, too. When you get the chance, learn techniques from the racing pros so that when you finally get your hands on that German or Japanese sports car you will know how to truly enjoy it-without causing an accident.
    Lastly, don't ever take your car for granted. When you think about it, in this third-world country of ours even just owning an automobile is a luxury in itself. It's all a matter of perspective-just like how for many using a taxi is considered ‘splurging' when one can take a jeep instead.


    You will have the car of your dreams one day. It is always good to aspire for something special and work hard to get it. And believe me, when you do have that BMW, Mercedes, or Lexus in your garage, you will look back and have fond memories of that bucket you used to drive.


    That Porsche that just flew passed you like your car was standing still? Keep in mind that it takes plenty of skill to handle a high-performance machine like that, the fundamentals of which you can learn with any car-regardless of the price. Start practicing basic car control. It won't be any less fun in your econo-box. That guy who owns the GT-R? Instead of just being awe-struck, why not approach him? He may be friendly person, and if you are lucky he may even take you around the block. Oh, and that girl who doesn't want to be seen riding your economy car? She definitely isn't worth it.

    I think a life without hang-ups will be a luxurious one. Should that be the case, let's start living it up!
    VERY NICE!!!I have to admit medyo sapul ako...thnks

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