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    #1281
    Quote Originally Posted by act_0508 View Post
    share lng po. i own 2012 innova g mt diesel mga 3 months n sken. na experience ko n ka2iba ang tunog ng mkina ko during 1200 to 1700 rpm run prng hirap ang mkina n humatak. it started nung tumtkbo ako sa slex n loaded ang sa2kyan ko around 100 to 120 kph. pinacheck ko s casa ksbay ng 5000 pms tinest drive nila pero ok nmn ang takbo. anybody experienced the same...? salamat po.
    thats what i meant.

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    #1282
    Quote Originally Posted by act_0508 View Post
    after sir ng 100-120 kph n takbo pg bumbgal ang takbo around 20 to 40 kph w/ rpm 1200 to 1700 rpm engine runs rough. loaded sir mga bagahe gling kc ako ng airport pblik ng batangas city. sa ngaun d nmn ulit ngya2ri hopefully wag n nga lit mngyri un. salamat mga bosing s info...
    Boss, may d4d din ako (2.5) rough nga yung makina around 1500 rpm (parang truck or jeep hehe), tapos mag iiba around 1600 rpm to 2000 (where the semi-whistling sound can be heard), then iba nanaman ang tunog from 2000 to 2500 rpm (whistle), then iba nanaman pag 2500 pataas. Di naman siya mahina humatak, actually sa 1500 rpm nag uumpisa lumakas yung engine (assuming you have the right gear).

    I assume nung nasa 100 to 120 kph ka, nasa 4th or 5th gear ka (most probably 5th). nag downshift ka ba when you hit 40 kph? with that speed dapat nasa 3rd or 4th gear ka. kung hindi, if you try accelerating, mahihirapan talaga makina.
    Last edited by agentrambo007; June 30th, 2012 at 10:21 PM. Reason: 5th to 4th

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    #1283
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    I think Toyota has already solve this choking issue sa D4-D.
    Yep, solved na to, longer SCV solved it. Palit na lang ng fuel filter religiously for added peace of mind hehe.

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    #1284
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Is it true that some choking, hard starting problem occured in the 70K up odometer reading? Baka fuel issue na ito ung hindi pa nakapagpalit ng fuel filter kaya clog ang fuel injection pump at hindi na SCV issue.
    Sa company, 150k up odo. No choking. 3.0 D4D 2007 model. I inspected their SCVs, mahaba.

    By the way, they are running on very dirty fuel (galing sa petron, sa bayan ng sta cruz, zambales)for a very long time na. No prob pa naman. No tirik moments, buti na lang kase bundok yung route namin hehe.

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    #1285
    Quote Originally Posted by agentrambo007 View Post
    Boss, may d4d din ako (2.5) rough nga yung makina around 1500 rpm (parang truck or jeep hehe), tapos mag iiba around 1600 rpm to 2000 (where the semi-whistling sound can be heard), then iba nanaman ang tunog from 2000 to 2500 rpm (whistle), then iba nanaman pag 2500 pataas. Di naman siya mahina humatak, actually sa 1500 rpm nag uumpisa lumakas yung engine (assuming you have the right gear).

    I assume nung nasa 100 to 120 kph ka, nasa 4th or 5th gear ka (most probably 5th). nag downshift ka ba when you hit 40 kph? with that speed dapat nasa 3rd or 4th gear ka. kung hindi, if you try accelerating, mahihirapan talaga makina.
    parang hirap ang makina pg nsa 2nd or 3rd gear s 4th at 5th ala nmn problema. tama lng nmn ang gear ko sa takbo ng makina pero iba talaga ang tunog. na experience ko lit last june 28. pag ka start ko ng umaga mga 5 mins. ko muna pinaandar ang makina ska ko pinatakbo. ganon lit ang ngyari pgdting ng 1200-1700 rpm mga nasa 20-30 kph iba ang ingay ng makina. dpat ide2retso ko n s casa kso pg tagal tagal nagiging normal na lit ang tunog. sa2bhin lng ng tga casa n ala nmn problema.

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    #1286
    Quote Originally Posted by act_0508 View Post
    parang hirap ang makina pg nsa 2nd or 3rd gear s 4th at 5th ala nmn problema. tama lng nmn ang gear ko sa takbo ng makina pero iba talaga ang tunog. na experience ko lit last june 28. pag ka start ko ng umaga mga 5 mins. ko muna pinaandar ang makina ska ko pinatakbo. ganon lit ang ngyari pgdting ng 1200-1700 rpm mga nasa 20-30 kph iba ang ingay ng makina. dpat ide2retso ko n s casa kso pg tagal tagal nagiging normal na lit ang tunog. sa2bhin lng ng tga casa n ala nmn problema.
    pacheck mo na lang sir yan sa casa, better pagka start mo sa umaga, diretso casa. nakaka frustrate kase pag nawawala pag time for check up na.

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    #1287
    Quote Originally Posted by agentrambo007 View Post
    Sa company, 150k up odo. No choking. 3.0 D4D 2007 model. I inspected their SCVs, mahaba.

    By the way, they are running on very dirty fuel (galing sa petron, sa bayan ng sta cruz, zambales)for a very long time na. No prob pa naman. No tirik moments, buti na lang kase bundok yung route namin hehe.

    Fortuner naman yan sir. I think sa Innova lang ung lumabas ung ganiting choking issue sa D4-D.

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    #1288
    Quote Originally Posted by agentrambo007 View Post
    pacheck mo na lang sir yan sa casa, better pagka start mo sa umaga, diretso casa. nakaka frustrate kase pag nawawala pag time for check up na.
    sa ngayon sir ginagawa ko pagka start sa umaga tinatapakan ko muna ang gas pedal up to 2000+ rpm (mga 3 beses) habang naka neutral ganun din bago ko patayin ang makina. plano ko din palitan ang kurudo na gamit ko from Shell V Power Nitro+ to Fuel Save. baka lang may epekto rin ang krudo na gamit ko. pag umulit ang kakaibang tunog, ii insist ko na sa taga casa na i check nila ang makina kahit magtagal dun ng ilang araw. salamat po ng marami sa mga advice...

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    #1289
    ^mali naman yang ginagawa niyo sir. When you start the engine, just leave it at the engines normal idle speed.

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    #1290
    Quote Originally Posted by SiRbossR View Post
    ^mali naman yang ginagawa niyo sir. When you start the engine, just leave it at the engines normal idle speed.
    Agree. Even the practice of revving the engine bago patayin, it's unnecessary and will just waste fuel. Pang jeepney lang yung style na yon.

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    #1291
    It is good that this issue is already a none issue. New Innova owners will now have a peace of mind.

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    #1292
    Quote Originally Posted by SiRbossR View Post
    ^mali naman yang ginagawa niyo sir. When you start the engine, just leave it at the engines normal idle speed.
    may epekto ba sir un sa makina pag inaapakan ang gas pedal nang naka idle pa lang bukod sa takaw-kurudo? pansin ko sir sa casa pag nagpapa pms ako ganun ginagawa nila bago patakbuhin ang sasakyan. sa ngayon sir di ko pa lit na eexperience ung kakaibang tunog ng makina.

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    #1293
    Quote Originally Posted by act_0508 View Post
    may epekto ba sir un sa makina pag inaapakan ang gas pedal nang naka idle pa lang bukod sa takaw-kurudo? pansin ko sir sa casa pag nagpapa pms ako ganun ginagawa nila bago patakbuhin ang sasakyan. sa ngayon sir di ko pa lit na eexperience ung kakaibang tunog ng makina.
    Just let it run on idle for a few minutes then drive slowly for the first few meters. Significant wear and tear happen on initial start when the engine is still cold and when the oil has not yet circulated properly. Most technicians don't know any better as they don't own cars. They were just trained specifically to do the necessary maintenance and repair procedure.
    Last edited by timo07; July 5th, 2012 at 12:05 AM.

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    #1294
    salamat sir sa info...

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    #1295
    sa racing lang usually ginagawa revving of engine.

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    #1296
    Quote Originally Posted by act_0508 View Post
    sa ngayon sir ginagawa ko pagka start sa umaga tinatapakan ko muna ang gas pedal up to 2000+ rpm (mga 3 beses) habang naka neutral ganun din bago ko patayin ang makina. plano ko din palitan ang kurudo na gamit ko from Shell V Power Nitro+ to Fuel Save. baka lang may epekto rin ang krudo na gamit ko. pag umulit ang kakaibang tunog, ii insist ko na sa taga casa na i check nila ang makina kahit magtagal dun ng ilang araw. salamat po ng marami sa mga advice...
    Sir, bakit kelangan mo mag 2000+ rpm pagka start? Even though pwede mo na siya patakbuhin after cold start after a couple of minutes, better not to rev the engine aggressively, kelangan mo muna ma attain yung proper temp before you could do high revs.

    Personally I do not rev the engine pag idle, bukod sa aksaya krudo, unnecessary strain lang yan sa engine on cold start, even bago patayin engine, idle ko muna for about 2 minutes. When you drive after the cold start, be sure to keep the revs very low like <1500 rpm. Sigurado namang aandar vehicle mo kahit mababa rev mo. Ganun din pag malapit na sa destination, di na ako nag rerev past 1500 rpm.

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    #1297
    ^

    naging habit na kasi ng ibang drivers yan.

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    #1298
    tinetesting ko lng sir kung matatanggal ung unusual engine noise pag natakbo sa range na 1200 to 1700 rpm lalo na pag nagtse change gear ako from 2nd to 3rd gear pagka release ng clutch mas pakinig yung kakaibang ingay nang makina. paminsan minsan lang nangyayari kaya di ko mapacheck sa casa. baka may alam sa inyo mga sir kung ano pede sabihin sa service advisor na dapat macheck o suggestions po para mawala yung kakaibang ingay. salamat po.

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    #1299
    Try mong itaas ng konti yung rpm mo before you change your gear, gawin mong 2000 then observe the engine noise kung ganon pa rin.

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    kanina nung paandarin ko ok naman sir ang takbo. minsan nga lang talaga nangyayari. sige sir try ko yung suggestion nyo pag nag ingay ulit ang makina. salamat po...

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