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    #961
    dapat mapalitan mo na kung ano man ang dapat palitan bago matapos ang warranty mo.

    ganyan din yung squeaking clutch ko dati. kapag bagong start, malakas ang langitngit ng clutch. pero kapag uminit na nawawala. so from sta rosa to pagdating ng toyota alabang. hindi ko mapalabas yung sound. ang ginawa ko. iniwan ko muna kotse for mga 3 hours para lumamig ulit. then saka ko pinacheck. ayun lumabas yung problema. walang nagawa yung warranty section nila.they had to bring down the transmission and change the release bearing. since valid warranty claim ito and will need at least 3-4 days of repair, nag-request ako ng service vehicle. they gave me an innova V as service vehicle which i used/abused for a week.

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    #962
    Quote Originally Posted by Ginnova View Post
    dapat mapalitan mo na kung ano man ang dapat palitan bago matapos ang warranty mo.

    ganyan din yung squeaking clutch ko dati. kapag bagong start, malakas ang langitngit ng clutch. pero kapag uminit na nawawala. so from sta rosa to pagdating ng toyota alabang. hindi ko mapalabas yung sound. ang ginawa ko. iniwan ko muna kotse for mga 3 hours para lumamig ulit. then saka ko pinacheck. ayun lumabas yung problema. walang nagawa yung warranty section nila.they had to bring down the transmission and change the release bearing. since valid warranty claim ito and will need at least 3-4 days of repair, nag-request ako ng service vehicle. they gave me an innova V as service vehicle which i used/abused for a week.
    ~HI SIR GINNOVA GOOD DAY!
    ask ko lang what do you mean by service vehicle???panu b yun???ipapasok ko kse innova ko sa monday...ng bblack smoke kase and then my tumutulo pa na oil sa air filter/cleaner galing sa breather...ang findings sa casa e sbi sa EGR lng dw yun???after that sabi sakin 5 days nga daw iiwan sa casa...toyota balintawak ako ngppservice...konting tips naman po...and wala po ba ko babayadan s casa?under warranty pa naman innova ko.tnx.

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    #963
    nag-email ako sa toyota philippines cro. then pinacheck ko sa toyota alabang. kung valid warranty concern at matagal nila aayusin mag-request ka ng service vehicle. sabihin mo daily driven yung kotse mo at wala ka gagamitin.pero matagal ang request ng service vehicle. sa akin mga more than a month yata ako nag-antay..they give me an Innova V for the service vehicle.

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    #964
    ~ok sir GINNOVA tnx for the reply and some info. I really appreciate it.
    Drive safely!

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    #965
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackshark1999 View Post
    Bro, I am having the same problem, I'm experiencing it for over a year, on an off. I already called the attention of Toyota during one of my PMS, the Service attendant acted as if he is completely unaware of these problems, he asid he will have to do an engine diagnosis and perhaps change the fuel filter. We did just that, bdw my unit is still under warranty up to Feb 14, 2011. The diagnosis did now show anything, so Toyota concluded that there was nothing wrong with my unit. They said it could be the fuel but now we know its bull ****. Kung wala sa warranty, they are so sure in diagnosing that its a fuel pump or fuel pump component problem, tapos palit. Pag nasa warranty, walang problema, fuel lang. Nakakapikon.

    I will be having my PMS for January and again I will be complaining about this problem. This time I will insist that they change the SCV kit.

    Bad trip talaga, to think 35kms lang tinakbo ng Toyota ko for 2 years and 11 mos. lahat pa ng PMS sinusunod ko. petron macapagal lang ako nagpapakarga. Bwisit talaga. Tsambahan ang pagbili, malas mo na lang pag lemon ang natapat sayo.
    Bro, suggestion ko sa Service Manager or General Manager ng Dealer mo ielevate. Make it known to them that you know about the issues of D4D and then request them to conduct an extensive inspection particularly on the Fuel Injection Pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Bro, suggestion ko sa Service Manager or General Manager ng Dealer mo ielevate. Make it known to them that you know about the issues of D4D and then request them to conduct an extensive inspection particularly on the Fuel Injection Pump.

    Bro, I just had my SCV kit installed, under warranty. The Service manager told me that Toyota is now producing the SCV kit. Dati hindi, you have to replace the whole pump.

    So far so good, I am keeping my fingers crossed, according to toyota there is no need to replace the whole fuel pump, only the valve that controls the fuel feed.

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    #967
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackshark1999 View Post
    Bro, I just had my SCV kit installed, under warranty. The Service manager told me that Toyota is now producing the SCV kit. Dati hindi, you have to replace the whole pump.

    So far so good, I am keeping my fingers crossed, according to toyota there is no need to replace the whole fuel pump, only the valve that controls the fuel feed.
    Bro, how much yung damage? Ilang na ang odometer reading mo? Thanks. There should be no worries now for you.
    Last edited by timo07; January 28th, 2011 at 09:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Bro, how much yung damage? Ilang na ang odometer reading mo? Thanks. There should be no worries now for you.
    Bro free and part na pinalitan, I only paid for the PMS and the decarbon. Total is 5k, decarbon is 3k. Rest covers change oil.

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    #969
    How about the current D4D? may mga problema pa ba?
    or better stay away from D4D?

    OT
    i think its about time for the congress to pass a law against company selling lemon cars.

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    #970
    Wow shocking list of problems and I've only managed to read through a few pages. I'd question if they really know what they are doing when they are 'troubleshooting' at the dealerships? I know in Australia the dealerships are pretty bad at it so would expect the same here. Whats with the 'Replace CRDI system' on the front page? Dont they look for the real problem. Thats like saying to the doctoir you have a stomach ache and he does a full organ transplant to fix the problem....extreme! Fuel issues are the number one issue anywhere so make sure you are regularly checking fuel (and air) filtration.

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    #971
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackshark1999 View Post
    Bro free and part na pinalitan, I only paid for the PMS and the decarbon. Total is 5k, decarbon is 3k. Rest covers change oil.
    Ay oo nga namanunder warranty pa nga pala. Yung sa decarbonizing, what was exactly done sa kotse mo? Based on previous posts that I read, inirerev lang ng mataas at wala namang inilalagay na chemicals or whatever. Sayang lang ang pera bro.

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    #972
    me pinapahigop sila sa chemical sa intake manifold. Halos 1 quart size non, then hi-rev. I've seen them do this at otis. Although di dapat ginagawa ito pag bago pa lang oto mo.

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    #973
    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Ay oo nga namanunder warranty pa nga pala. Yung sa decarbonizing, what was exactly done sa kotse mo? Based on previous posts that I read, inirerev lang ng mataas at wala namang inilalagay na chemicals or whatever. Sayang lang ang pera bro.

    May chemical na ginagamit, it mixes with the fuel and air mixture. I was able to observe the procedure and I'm glad I had it done. I saw the significant quantity of soot removed from the engine..I can't believe my 3 year old Innova has that much soot in the combustion chamber. Although it was revved, it did not reach the red line.

    Anyways, since it is being offered by Toyota as part of their PMS (optional) I am confident that it was throughly tested. As for performance of the unit after treatment, there is a noticeable increase in power, lower engine noise and a 10% increase in fuel economy.

    Toyota suggests this treatment for cars 3 years old and above, with subsequent yearly treatment thereafter.

    Will I do it again, yes.
    Will I recommend it, yes.
    Will I buy another Toyota, yes.

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    #974
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackshark1999 View Post
    May chemical na ginagamit, it mixes with the fuel and air mixture. I was able to observe the procedure and I'm glad I had it done. I saw the significant quantity of soot removed from the engine..I can't believe my 3 year old Innova has that much soot in the combustion chamber. Although it was revved, it did not reach the red line.

    Anyways, since it is being offered by Toyota as part of their PMS (optional) I am confident that it was throughly tested. As for performance of the unit after treatment, there is a noticeable increase in power, lower engine noise and a 10% increase in fuel economy.

    Toyota suggests this treatment for cars 3 years old and above, with subsequent yearly treatment thereafter.

    Will I do it again, yes.
    Will I recommend it, yes.
    Will I buy another Toyota, yes.
    Which dealer did you have this done? I'm also your unit is D-4D?

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    #975
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackshark1999 View Post
    May chemical na ginagamit, it mixes with the fuel and air mixture. I was able to observe the procedure and I'm glad I had it done. I saw the significant quantity of soot removed from the engine..I can't believe my 3 year old Innova has that much soot in the combustion chamber. Although it was revved, it did not reach the red line.

    Anyways, since it is being offered by Toyota as part of their PMS (optional) I am confident that it was throughly tested. As for performance of the unit after treatment, there is a noticeable increase in power, lower engine noise and a 10% increase in fuel economy.

    Toyota suggests this treatment for cars 3 years old and above, with subsequent yearly treatment thereafter.

    Will I do it again, yes.
    Will I recommend it, yes.
    Will I buy another Toyota, yes.
    Hindi siguro sa combustion chamber lahat galing yon, ang surface na maeexpose lang ay yung ibabaw ng piston at cylinder head, kasama na yung mga valves. Most likely ang soot ay nag accumulate sa exhaust manifold, catalytic converter and exhaust pipes kasama na muffler. I need to check yung details ng chemicals siguro before I try it out. Hindi kasi nakalagay sa manual ang decarbonizing.

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    #976
    Hi Guys,

    Is the Fortuner 4x2 Manual 2.5 Diesel also affected by the D4D choking and hard start problems?

    How about the 4x4 3.0 Diel Fortuner? Is it also affected by the D4d choking and hard start problem?

    Thanks

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    #977
    grabe ang toyota up to now denial stage pa din sila.. kawawa yung may mga innova na bumigay ang engine out of warranty.

    yung boss ko ganyan din eh may innova sya 2007 model nung december 2010 nag out of warranty tapos eto na sunod sunod na ang problema.. una nag jejerk daw.. so etong si toyota manila bay nag advise na palitan ang clutch disc at diaphragm for a whooping 17k!! o eh di kumita sila.. tapos a few days ayun namatay na yung engine while driving... so eto si toyota manila bay.. advise ulet reset ecu at replace filter.. so ok na ulet kumita na naman sila... so after a few days ayun namatay nang tuluyan.. so eto si toyota manila bay nag advise ulet.. palitan daw yung SCV... kumita na naman for the 3rd time.. galing talaga!!!

    ngayon yung aircon naman ang sira...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    grabe ang toyota up to now denial stage pa din sila.. kawawa yung may mga innova na bumigay ang engine out of warranty.

    yung boss ko ganyan din eh may innova sya 2007 model nung december 2010 nag out of warranty tapos eto na sunod sunod na ang problema.. una nag jejerk daw.. so etong si toyota manila bay nag advise na palitan ang clutch disc at diaphragm for a whooping 17k!! o eh di kumita sila.. tapos a few days ayun namatay na yung engine while driving... so eto si toyota manila bay.. advise ulet reset ecu at replace filter.. so ok na ulet kumita na naman sila... so after a few days ayun namatay nang tuluyan.. so eto si toyota manila bay nag advise ulet.. palitan daw yung SCV... kumita na naman for the 3rd time.. galing talaga!!!

    ngayon yung aircon naman ang sira...
    Awww My sympathy goes with your boss

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    #979
    My brandnew 2010 HiAce Commuter has White Smoke Problems! If you are planning to use this as a commercial or For-Hire vehicle, I would dissuade buyers from doing so. In my experience, Toyota's D4D engines may not be robust enough to adopt to the various diesel fuel condition available in the local market. I was expecting that this problem should not occur at least during the first 3-years of operation since it was a brand new vehicle. Unfortunately, less than a year and just 11t+ Kms on the odometer, this problem has occurred.

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    #980
    i am an OFW and very much sure to get a 4x2 A/T dsl FORTUNER when i come home next month. i have read most of the threads here at lumalabas na yun models 2005-2008 ang may prob sa D4Ds. na fix na ba kaya nila yun problem sa mga models 2009 onwards? how would i know the manufacturing year of the unit ? makikita ba eto sa paperworks or naka stamp eto sa nameplate ng unit?

    please reply naman po just to make sure i can get worth of my hard earned money sa bibilhin kung sasakyan..

    salamat po

List of Toyota D4D Probems (Choking, Hard Starting, etc.)