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    #921
    Quote Originally Posted by ghlennmc View Post
    tsk!! patay tayo jan! i told a friend na she can get the 2010 innova-D4D since i thought fixed na yung mga D4D issues.

    grabe naman tong toyota! ano bang ginagawa nyo? ini-ignore ata feedback dito sa tsikot since tingin ko at alam din nila to, na napakaliit ng population ng nagfo-forum sa total population ng innova owners...

    pano nga naman kung i-acknowledge nila yung faulty engine, e ang benta ng innova. hays...
    could be a fact that we have to face; us d4d owners
    but if am not mistaken, some forumers here in tsikot.com sent a letter regarding the d4d issue; dunno as to what happen though....

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    #922
    i believe toyota will never admit it. because if they did, they will be flooded by lawsuits. and that is why we need the lemon law.
    Last edited by dr. d; December 2nd, 2010 at 08:21 PM.

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    #923
    D4D...D 4 Denso...

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    #924
    Good day to fellow D4D owners...
    Mine is Hilux D4D 2007 model;

    Just want to know baka me nakaexperience na sa inyo

    Now in 34KMS odo
    naexperience ko tuwing umaga pag start ko ng engine ok naman pero pag arangkada na palyado... parang nagdradrag pag bibitaw ng clutch sa 1st gear....pag mga 1km na tatakbo ko ok na ala na drag.

    please help...

    di ko pa dinala sa toyota balak ko sa 35K PMS isabay checkup and also para alam ko kung ano sasabihin ko sa toyota baka mamaya kung ano lang reason sabihin.

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    #925
    Just wana shed a lil light on you guys...
    My tito had a Innova J 2006 D4D model which he sold recently... it had 304K+ Kms on the ODO plus it had the "T-Belt" and "check engine light" on... hahahahahahaha! and it was driven mostly by driver who use to be a jeepney driver so you can imagine the abuse it's been through. It had difficulty at times when starting or choking and stuff but we noticed that if you just forced it, it'l just keep on running. basta regular oil and filter changes does wonders. That car made me in Toyota's reliability talaga, but my tito had to sell it cuz he's scared that he might have a hard time selling it later on hehehe.

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    #926
    ei guys.

    i have a friend who owns a fortuner 05 model 4x4 D, had a problem last week, ayaw humatak kahit anong apak mo sa gas, though tumatakbo pero gapang. then umilaw yung check engine light sa dash. when she got home, tinignan ng driver yung engine, parang natanggal yung sa ecu nya na connector, so kinabit nya and test drove it, okay naman, pero to make sure, pinadala nya sa casa. they did a computer diagnostic lumabas she had to replace daw engine ecu; turbo charger assy; egr; at air filter! ang laki ng damage! would you guys know of a shop for me to get a second opinion kasishe asked for my help? also, if talagang kailangan palitan yung parts, may mabibilhan ba sa labas ng mas mura kaysa sa casa?

    really appreciate your help on this one guys...

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    #927
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggle71 View Post
    ei guys.

    i have a friend who owns a fortuner 05 model 4x4 D, had a problem last week, ayaw humatak kahit anong apak mo sa gas, though tumatakbo pero gapang. then umilaw yung check engine light sa dash. when she got home, tinignan ng driver yung engine, parang natanggal yung sa ecu nya na connector, so kinabit nya and test drove it, okay naman, pero to make sure, pinadala nya sa casa. they did a computer diagnostic lumabas she had to replace daw engine ecu; turbo charger assy; egr; at air filter! ang laki ng damage! would you guys know of a shop for me to get a second opinion kasishe asked for my help? also, if talagang kailangan palitan yung parts, may mabibilhan ba sa labas ng mas mura kaysa sa casa?

    really appreciate your help on this one guys...
    hehehe, buti humingi ka ng advise dito.

    anyway, my diagnosis would be that you have a faulty EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) Valve. ito lang ang palitan mo, then ECU reset.

    kung ECU ang sira, unang-una palang hindi na mag-start ang sasakyan mo. air filter, well walang kinalaman ito sigurado ako 100%. turbo? sabi mo nga gumagapang lang, meaning kahit sa simula ayaw nang humatak, wala nang kinalaman ang turbo dito.

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    #928
    Quote Originally Posted by ben_david19 View Post
    hehehe, buti humingi ka ng advise dito.

    anyway, my diagnosis would be that you have a faulty EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) Valve. ito lang ang palitan mo, then ECU reset.

    kung ECU ang sira, unang-una palang hindi na mag-start ang sasakyan mo. air filter, well walang kinalaman ito sigurado ako 100%. turbo? sabi mo nga gumagapang lang, meaning kahit sa simula ayaw nang humatak, wala nang kinalaman ang turbo dito.
    thanks a lot bossing, sobrang laking tulong nito sa akin. if you won't mind boss, lubusin ko napaghingi ng tulong. can you recommend a shop to do this work aside from casa boss? really appreciate it...

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    #929
    got a 2010 D4D MT.. paano ko ma mamaintain nanag maayos yung engine ko? first time kasi namen mag deisel.. so far wala pa naman ako nararanasan di maganda my odo is 1.6k.. ano yung mdalas masira sa D4D engine na kailangan palitan?.. hindi pba na iimprove nang toyota yung D4D?.. napapansin ko kasi sa mga older model nang D4D daming nagiging problema..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggle71 View Post
    thanks a lot bossing, sobrang laking tulong nito sa akin. if you won't mind boss, lubusin ko napaghingi ng tulong. can you recommend a shop to do this work aside from casa boss? really appreciate it...
    as much as I would like to help, pero wala akong mare-recommend since wala akong Toyota na sasakyan, siguro kung Mitsu or Zuki meron. ask ka nalang sa grupo toyota or sa fortuner club sigurado may alam sila.

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    #931
    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted05 View Post
    got a 2010 D4D MT.. paano ko ma mamaintain nanag maayos yung engine ko? first time kasi namen mag deisel.. so far wala pa naman ako nararanasan di maganda my odo is 1.6k.. ano yung mdalas masira sa D4D engine na kailangan palitan?.. hindi pba na iimprove nang toyota yung D4D?.. napapansin ko kasi sa mga older model nang D4D daming nagiging problema..
    may nagpost dito kung mag-ba-backread ka, 2010 model may problema sa choking. sabi ng iba, mga 1-2 out 10 D4D lang naman ang nagkakaproblema, hopefully hindi ka kasama dun sa 1-2 na yun.

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    #932
    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted05 View Post
    got a 2010 D4D MT.. paano ko ma mamaintain nanag maayos yung engine ko? first time kasi namen mag deisel.. so far wala pa naman ako nararanasan di maganda my odo is 1.6k.. ano yung mdalas masira sa D4D engine na kailangan palitan?.. hindi pba na iimprove nang toyota yung D4D?.. napapansin ko kasi sa mga older model nang D4D daming nagiging problema..

    Hit or miss yan.. Better kapag may naramdam kang iba sa kotse dalhin mo na agad sa dealer mo....

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    #933
    salamat mga sir.. hayyss.. kung nalaman ko lang kagad na madami pala nagiging problema ang D4D sana nag VVTi nalang kame.. pero sa taas nang gas at lakas lumamon nang gasolina kaya nag diesel kme.... sana hindi masama yung sakin sa mga madalas magka problema...

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    #934
    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted05 View Post
    salamat mga sir.. hayyss.. kung nalaman ko lang kagad na madami pala nagiging problema ang D4D sana nag VVTi nalang kame.. pero sa taas nang gas at lakas lumamon nang gasolina kaya nag diesel kme.... sana hindi masama yung sakin sa mga madalas magka problema...
    don't worry po di naman lahat ng D4D may problema. kahit VVTI may problema din at kahit anong kotse man yan. Alagaan mo na lang kung ano man ang napili mo. Wag mag sisi.

    Drive Safely po... and enjoy your innova...

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    #935
    Quote Originally Posted by ben_david19 View Post
    as much as I would like to help, pero wala akong mare-recommend since wala akong Toyota na sasakyan, siguro kung Mitsu or Zuki meron. ask ka nalang sa grupo toyota or sa fortuner club sigurado may alam sila.
    just the same sir, thanks for the help. found a guru technician for toyota. he used to work for toyota australia kay sobrang galing. fuel filter lang and egr problem ng d4d ko...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted05 View Post
    salamat mga sir.. hayyss.. kung nalaman ko lang kagad na madami pala nagiging problema ang D4D sana nag VVTi nalang kame.. pero sa taas nang gas at lakas lumamon nang gasolina kaya nag diesel kme.... sana hindi masama yung sakin sa mga madalas magka problema...
    the proper key for a better driving for a d4d is
    - proper maintenance
    - proper performance

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    #937
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggle71 View Post
    just the same sir, thanks for the help. found a guru technician for toyota. he used to work for toyota australia kay sobrang galing. fuel filter lang and egr problem ng d4d ko...
    Wiggle71, pakishare naman kung ano ang nakita sa egr mo and then ano ang ginawa nung technician. Yung fuel filter element change is advisable every 5K km. I just had my 25K PMS almost two weeks ago and ramdam ko yung difference ng bago ang fuel filter. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggle71 View Post
    just the same sir, thanks for the help. found a guru technician for toyota. he used to work for toyota australia kay sobrang galing. fuel filter lang and egr problem ng d4d ko...
    told yah iyan lang prob mo. napakaraming incompetent sa casa natin so huwag masyadong aasa sa kanila.

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    #939
    I just recently ordered the 2x4 HiluxG d4d engine. I did so based on my previous experience with my surf (Excellent Performance) and reliable sources of experiences from my kins and next-of-kins, and also friends who uses Toyota D4D engines, whether it be Innova, Fortuner or Hilux. All of them are satisfied owners of such. The least is a 2-years user and have not encountered of any sort of EGR, ECU, Supply pump problems mentioned here. And my brother-in-law's Hilux is around 5-years and counting.

    Thus, I ordered one stated aboved. Hoping di ko ma-experience your sad experiences here. I concur with the last posters that proper driving and maintenance is the secret to having a reliable car. Mechanical defects even if under warranty could not be avoided coz not all engines or its parts were manufactured/assembled under exactly the same tolerances - this is obvious in assembly lines where human intervention is absolutely necessary - baka may inaantok during the assembly or whatever

    If ever there is really manufacturing defect, then why are there so many satisfied D4D engine users out there. As I have recalled, not less than a thousand units were sold every year by Toyota here in the Philippines of this D4D engine, and complaints in this forum does not even reach 10% of that volume of sales. I am after probabilities, that is why.

    With these in mind, may I opined that swertehan lang din yan as one of the forumer here says coz U really can't determine if Ur newly released D4D has really Passed a "QUALITY" Quality Control, thus the warranty

    Hope this alleviates the feelings of those who have already bought one LIKED Me

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingd View Post
    I just recently ordered the 2x4 HiluxG d4d engine. I did so based on my previous experience with my surf (Excellent Performance) and reliable sources of experiences from my kins and next-of-kins, and also friends who uses Toyota D4D engines, whether it be Innova, Fortuner or Hilux. All of them are satisfied owners of such. The least is a 2-years user and have not encountered of any sort of EGR, ECU, Supply pump problems mentioned here. And my brother-in-law's Hilux is around 5-years and counting.

    Thus, I ordered one stated aboved. Hoping di ko ma-experience your sad experiences here. I concur with the last posters that proper driving and maintenance is the secret to having a reliable car. Mechanical defects even if under warranty could not be avoided coz not all engines or its parts were manufactured/assembled under exactly the same tolerances - this is obvious in assembly lines where human intervention is absolutely necessary - baka may inaantok during the assembly or whatever

    If ever there is really manufacturing defect, then why are there so many satisfied D4D engine users out there. As I have recalled, not less than a thousand units were sold every year by Toyota here in the Philippines of this D4D engine, and complaints in this forum does not even reach 10% of that volume of sales. I am after probabilities, that is why.

    With these in mind, may I opined that swertehan lang din yan as one of the forumer here says coz U really can't determine if Ur newly released D4D has really Passed a "QUALITY" Quality Control, thus the warranty

    Hope this alleviates the feelings of those who have already bought one LIKED Me
    well may dalawa akong nakausap, isa sa mufflerland, yung isa sa servitek, tinanong ko kung nagkaproblema ba sila sa choking and yes, nagkaroon sila ng problem. tinanong ko kung alam nila ang tsikot and they said no.

    marami ring users ang hindi nakakaalam ng tsikot so iilan lang din ang nakakapagpost dito hehe.

    but like what others said, 1 out of 10 lang naman ang possibilites ng D4D issues eh. hit or miss. Russian roulette game ito hehe.

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