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    #1781
    Wala na Kags, exposed ka na, matagal na [emoji40][emoji630]


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    #1782
    Shaider ang key eh back read ka sa mismo post.

    Wag mo kakalimutan yung flag ng china at smiley. hahahaha

    Ano nga response ng mundo sa china? Yun ang gusto ko malaman.

    BAkit may iilan bansa tuloy pag pasok ng chinaman. Bakti bakit bakit?

    And bakit ganun lang sagot ni trumpo kay president xi. Ang soft.

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    #1783
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Shaider paalala lang ng post ABOVE.

    Harsh ba trato ng mundo sa china?

    Ano response ni trumpo sa china?

    Hello scoobydoo?? Where are you???
    Sinophobia - Wikipedia

    Most have economic ties with them, but politically they don't bow down to China and their antics. Unlike this admin of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    IIRC, that was in Thailand, sir. This is here in our soil -- thus the difference. I wonder what local doctors, did, if any, to "treat" this woman.
    probably, nothing. there is a medical term for this. "supportive care."
    it's a virus!
    most viruses come and go as they please.
    all we can hope for, is they go, before the patient succumbs.
    don't we remember, in our childhood, na-trangkaso tayo, and in a few days, we just got... better. biogesic (it's paracetamol. definitely no anti-bacterial or anti-viral effects!) and fluids lang.

    besides, it's literally a one, solitary case, that one in thailand.
    for all we know, she got better despite the alleged treatment, or lack thereof.
    a lot more study is needed to even suggest... anything.

    the current belief, is a 2-3% fatality rate.
    that means, 97 out of 100 victims are expected to recover.
    researchers' translation: if they recover, that's no big deal, because that's expected. but if they die... that's what we have to research on: why did they die, and what can we do to prevent it!
    Last edited by dr. d; February 10th, 2020 at 11:58 PM.

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    #1785
    Please stay on topic. I’m specifically referring to kagalingan and shadow. This is a warning.
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    #1786
    Na-virus ang thread. Hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Na-virus ang thread. Hehe

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    gamitan ng zoviracks!
    or mr. kaufmann!
    or lola remedios...
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    gamitan ng zoviracks!
    or mr. kaufmann!
    or lola remedios...
    heh heh.
    Better yet. Pamalo sa pwet.

    OT na naman.

    BTT: wife and mom just went to Manila. Mukhang hindi pa naman daw gaano ka-paranoid mga tao sa airport re n-cov. Tapos sa flight nila pauwi may mga Chinese na ang iingay daw while the plane was taking off and landing. Mukhang healthy at masigla. Nainis lang sila at parang first timers. hahaha

    Hindi daw sinita ng crew. Sabi ko baka natakot na ha-chingan.

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    I don't know if this interview / article was posted before, but here are some interesting insights from Dr. Peng Zhiyong, one of the doctors in the front lines, fighting the coronavirus directly at ground zero -- Wuhan.

    1) "the doctor observed that three weeks seemed to determine the difference between life and death. Patients with stronger immune systems would start to recover in a couple of weeks, but in the second week, some cases would take a turn for the worse.

    In the third week, keeping some of these acute patients alive might require extraordinary intervention. "

    2) "The doctors and nurses at his hospital are overwhelmed with patients. Once they don protective hazmat suits, they go without food, drink and bathroom breaks for their entire shifts. That's because there aren't enough of the suits for a mid-shift change, he said."

    (Ahem, Philippines, I'm looking at you here)

    3) "I've observed that the breakout period of the novel coronavirus tends to be three weeks, from the onset of symptoms to developing difficulties breathing. Basically going from mild to severe symptoms takes about a week. There are all sorts of mild symptoms: feebleness, shortness of breath, some people have fevers, some don't. Based on studies of our 138 cases, the most common symptoms in the first stage are fever (98.6 per cent of cases), feebleness (69.6 per cent), cough (59.4 per cent), muscle pains (34.8 per cent), difficulties breathing (31.2%), while less common symptoms include headaches, dizziness, stomach pain, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting.

    4) "But some patients who enter the second week will suddenly get worse. At this stage, people should go to the hospital. The elderly with underlying conditions may develop complications; some may need machine-assisted respiration. When the body's other organs start to fail, that's when it becomes severe, while those with strong immune systems see their symptoms decrease in severity at this stage and gradually recover. So the second week is what determines whether the illness becomes critical."

    5) "The third week determines whether critical illness leads to death. Some in critical condition who receive treatment can raise their level of lymphocytes, a type of white blood cell, and see an improvement in their immune systems, and have been brought back, so to speak. But those whose lymphocyte numbers continue to decline, those whose immune systems are destroyed in the end, experience multiple organ failure and die.

    6) "For most, the illness is over in two weeks, whereas for those for whom the illness becomes severe, if they can survive three weeks, they're good. Those that can't will die in three weeks."

    7) "Peng: The biggest assault the virus launches is on a patient's immune system. It causes a fall in the count of lymphocytes, the damage in the lungs and shortness of breath. Many serious patients died of choking. Others died of the failure of multiple organs following complications in their organs resulting from a collapse of the immune system."

    8) "Peng: Based on my observations, a third of patients exhibited inflammation in their whole body. It was not necessarily limited to young adults. The mechanism of a cytokine storm is about whole-body inflammation, which leads to a failure of multiple organs and quickly evolves into the terminal stage. In some fast-progressing cases, it took two to three days to progress from whole-body inflammation to the life-threatening stage."

    9) "Peng: For serious and life-threatening cases, our main approach is to provide oxygen, high-volume oxygen. At first noninvasive machine-pumped oxygen, followed by intubated oxygen if conditions worsen. For life-threatening cases, we use Ecmo (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation, or pumping the patient's blood through an artificial lung machine). In four cases, we applied Ecmo to rescue patients from the verge of death.

    10) "Currently there are no special drugs for the coronavirus. The primary purpose of the ICU is to help patients sustain the functions of their body. Different patients have different symptoms. In case of shortness of breath, we provided oxygen; in case of a kidney failure, we gave dialysis; in case of a coma, we deployed Ecmo. We provide support wherever a patient needs it to sustain his life. Once the count of lymphocytes goes up and the immune system improves, the virus will be cleared. However, if the count of lymphocytes continues to fall, it is dangerous because the virus continues to replicate. Once a patient's immune system is demolished, it is hard to save a patient."

    Reporter's Notebook: Life and death in a Wuhan coronavirus ICU, East Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

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    #1790
    China is using this "emergency" as a cover for hunting down "enemies"



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    #1791
    tama talaga gut feel ko na hindi enough alcohol hand sanitizer. Sayang lang pag hoard nyo.

    The best talaga hand washing watering.

    #relationalmind




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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    tama talaga gut feel ko na hindi enough alcohol hand sanitizer. Sayang lang pag hoard nyo.

    The best talaga hand washing watering.

    #relationalmind



    experts have known for decades, that a properly-done hand washing is the best among the choices.
    but the hand sanitizer or alcohol is popular, because it is more convenient than washing with soap and water.
    "compromises."

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Trying hard to be intsik ka kasi.


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    Hahaha natawa ako dito.

    Ako nga almost pure (87.5%) inchik, sinusuka ko ugali ng china. 🤣

    Btt: changi airport halos walang tao.

    I asked around if it has always been like this.

    The youngsters say no.

    But the old timers say yes - befpre the boom of the chinese economy.

    Meaning, almost 80% ng in-transit sa Changi ay mainlanders.

    I did my math, umikot ako sa mga restos and popular hangout places sa changi. And 20% occupied lang mga tables and chairs unlike the pre-wuhan outbreak.

    I also spoke to some doctors regarding the spread of the virus, if you have no direct contact with someone who came from wuhan, your chance of catching the virus is really really low.

    Also, every store has alcohol/sanitiser dispensers which is a win for us!

    Yey!

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    #1794
    Record 103 deaths in a day...

    Next record 1,000 death toll.

    Coronavirus: Hubei province reports 2,097 new cases and 103 new deaths | South China Morning Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Record 103 deaths in a day...

    Next record 1,000 death toll.

    Coronavirus: Hubei province reports 2,097 new cases and 103 new deaths | South China Morning Post

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    I wouldn't be surprised if it infects 50% of Hubei.

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    #1796
    If numbers of infected would be contained in China ok lang. Basta huwag na lumabas. It came from them so dapat sila rin lang ang ma perwisyo.


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    Lumelevel up na siya, hindi niya iihian yung virus, sasampalin lang.

    Duterte says Philippines can defeat threat of ‘p— inang nCoV’ | News | GMA News Online

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    Lampas na pala yung 1,000...

    China coronavirus death toll passes 1,000 - CNA

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    I don't know if this has already been posted or if this belongs here, but here's an article from CNN.

    The coronavirus crisis could shut auto plants around the world

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    Singapore lah retail businesses starting to fell the pinch... Paano pa yung mga food centers na tambayan ng mga ethnic Chinese dun?

    OG cuts shopping hours, Honestbee temporarily closes grocery store over coronavirus fears - CNA

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China Corona Virus Outbreak