China Corona Virus Outbreak

[BratPAQ]

What is your take I read some people comments and they are saying this virus is overly hype by media, doctors, medical society etc.... with 90+% mild symptoms / asymptomatic and low death rate. But then again they understand that there is no vaccine yet and should wear mask and practice social distancing.

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I don't think agree dyan ang mga hospital na puno na ang mga ward ng Covid-19 patients at mga doktor at nurse na overworked. I don't think some health workers would resign dahil sa over work kung hype lang ito. Ang daming kahit hindi Covid-19 ang sakit hindi matanggap sa hospital, some of them namamatay sa paghahanap ng hospital na tatanggap sa kanila.

Maybe ask them again kung hype nga ito after magkasakit ng isa sa pamilya nila at mangailangan ng hospital.

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[BratPAQ]

hindi sumabay ang pagtaas ng number of deaths sa rise in number of cases

maybe the virus is more transmissible but less deadly now

If my memory serves me right you already said that. That for the virus to be successful hindi nya dapat pinapatay ang host nya to maximize ang infection.

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[uls]

What is your take I read some people comments and they are saying this virus is overly hype by media, doctors, medical society etc.... with 90+% mild symptoms / asymptomatic and low death rate. But then again they understand that there is no vaccine yet and should wear mask and practice social distancing.

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as more and more people see and experience first hand mild/asymptomatic infection, meron realization that the virus isn't as deadly as feared

and people are starting to question if the atmosphere of fear that was created (and still being maintained) was really necessary

i don't subscribe to the Gates-Fauci-Big Pharma conspiracy theory

i'm not saying this is the common cold or flu (it is deadly to the elderly and those with existing health problems)

but people are starting to entertain the thought that all this was an overreaction

[Monseratto]

as more and more people see and experience first hand mild/asymptomatic infection, meron realization that the virus isn't as deadly as feared

and people are starting to question if the atmosphere of fear that was created (and still being maintained) was really necessary

i don't subscribe to the Gates-Fauci-Big Pharma conspiracy theory

i'm not saying this is the common cold or flu (it is deadly to the elderly and those with existing health problems)

but people are starting to entertain the thought that all this was an overreaction

Age makes the difference...

Coronavirus in Spain: More cases among young people and a lower death rate: How the coronavirus epidemic has changed in Spain | Society | EL PAIS in English

Age. In the new normality, more young people are becoming infected with the coronavirus. The reports that are produced by the Carlos III institute, which include diagnoses from all methods, and not just PCR tests, confirm a significant fall in the average age of new positives. For example, the report issued on April 3 by the research institute showed the average age of those diagnosed as infected as between 50 and 59. However, the latest report, published on August 6, shows an average of 30 to 39 years old. Spanish Health Minister Salvador Illa has recently stated that the average age of new contagions is 40, whereas during the peak of the pandemic it was over 60.

Hospitalizations. In line with this fall in the severity of cases being detected in the new normality is the number of people requiring hospitalization. Since the start of the epidemic up until June 21, the average in Spain was at 50% of cases. This was very high, but is explained by the fact that during the worst part of the epidemic in Spain the majority of cases were going directly to the emergency room. Now, however, the average is at 4.5% given that many asymptomatic cases are being detected, and given the lower average age, they are less serious.

DOH: Majority of COVID-19 cases are from working age group | Inquirer News

“Ang bulk pa rin ng number ng cases natin ay nasa productive age group. Nandoon siya sa 20 years old until about 59 years old,” she told reporters in an online media forum.

(The bulk of our cases are in the productive age group, which ranges from 20 years old to 59 years old.)

“Ito ‘yung working group natin kasi sila ‘yung lumalabas, nagta-trabaho, babalik sa pamilya, magkakasakit, mai-infect ‘yung iba,” Vergeire added.

(This is the working group. They are the ones who leave their house to go to work, then go home and infect other family members.)

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What is your take I read some people comments and they are saying this virus is overly hype by media, doctors, medical society etc.... with 90+% mild symptoms / asymptomatic and low death rate. But then again they understand that there is no vaccine yet and should wear mask and practice social distancing.

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That they're ****ing stupid and should get the covid-19 and die a painful death and world will be a better place without them.


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[uls]

Age makes the difference...

Coronavirus in Spain: More cases among young people and a lower death rate: How the coronavirus epidemic has changed in Spain | Society | EL PAIS in English



DOH: Majority of COVID-19 cases are from working age group | Inquirer News

Re: Spain

yeah kaya mababa deaths ngayon coz younger people usually recover and ang mababa hospitalization rate coz fewer infected need to be confined

first paragraph:

akala mo ibang virus

If an expert was presented with data from the coronavirus epidemic in Spain in two blocks – from the start until June 21, when the lockdown ended, and from that date up until now – they would struggle to determine that they represented the same pathogen. The age of those being infected, the areas worst affected and the death rates are completely different between the two data sets.

[uls]

Age makes the difference...

Coronavirus in Spain: More cases among young people and a lower death rate: How the coronavirus epidemic has changed in Spain | Society | EL PAIS in English



DOH: Majority of COVID-19 cases are from working age group | Inquirer News

most new PH infections are age 20 to 59 -- no mystery there coz yan ang age group na allowed lumabas ng bahay

since karamihan mild and asymptomatic mababa ang number of deaths -- no mystery there too

ito tanong ko --

karamihan ng households sa Pinas multigenerational

working age pinoys live with seniors so they infect seniors

why aren't we hearing reports of large number of deaths among seniors?

considering that there are 4000 to 5000 new cases per day in the working age group madami dapat nahahawang senior

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maybe...

madami nga nahahawang senior and they're the ones who get hospitalized and since doctors have gotten so good at treating covid konti lang namamatay

maybe...

[uls]

or maybe very thoughtful and conscientious ang working age group they do everything not to infect seniors they live with

[Monseratto]

Article interesting comparison to PH cases.


Why is Spain once again on the frontline of the pandemic?

Spanish authorities argue the rise in confirmed cases is partly because the country has ramped up testing.

Spain has tested more than 5.3 million people, or around 11.5 percent of its population, since the start of the pandemic.

But many of its main neighbours have an even higher testing rate—Germany has tested 12.2 percent of its population, Italy 12.8 percent and Britain 22.1 percent.

Some have suggested that social norms that stress physical contact and encourage families to live in larger, multi-generational households have encouraged contagion in Spain.

But these norms are also prevalent in Italy, which has a far lower virus growth rate.

So why has the pandemic worsened in Spain? Experts say a backlash against the strict lockdown which began in mid-March and was only fully lifted on June 21 is partly to blame.

At the height of the lockdown people could only go outside to buy food or medicine, seek medical care or go to work if they could not do so from home.

Exercising outdoors was not allowed until early April and for weeks children were not allowed outside at all.

This "severe" lockdown created a "desire to make up for lost time" once the measures were lifted that sparked COVID-19 outbreaks, said Salvador Macip, an expert in health sciences at Catalonia's Open University.

The authorities introduced rules on social distancing and wearing masks after the lockdown ended without stressing the need to remain "very careful", he added.

Jorge Ruiz Ruiz, a sociologist at the Institute for Advanced Social Studies, a public research institute, echoes this view.

"Months of total isolation was perhaps not the best strategy to promote social responsibility," once restrictions were lifted, he said.

[uls]

something we already talked about here



as usual this thread is ahead of the media

hehe

[shadow]

Covid-19 News: Live Updates - The New York Times

CDC were given order by the higher ups to stop testing those people without symptoms.

Mas advance tayo sa US sa protocol. [emoji23]


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[shadow]

Wow! Dami na reports about airplane transmissions.

Konting mistakes lang like binaba yun mask to exposed the nose or removing mask while using the bathroom. Kahit naka mask buong flight except those small mistakes, nahahawa na.


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[dr. d]

i gather,
the HEPA filters didn't work as expected... ?

[Monseratto]

Covid-19 News: Live Updates - The New York Times

CDC were given order by the higher ups to stop testing those people without symptoms.

Mas advance tayo sa US sa protocol. [emoji23]


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No test=no cases

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[boybi]

Wow! Dami na reports about airplane transmissions.

Konting mistakes lang like binaba yun mask to exposed the nose or removing mask while using the bathroom. Kahit naka mask buong flight except those small mistakes, nahahawa na.


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May link ka?

[shadow]

May link ka?

Early Release - Asymptomatic Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 on Evacuation Flight - Volume 26, Number 11—November 22 - Emerging Infectious Diseases journal - CDC





Ito daw yun seat plan, naka n95 buong flight except nun gumamit lang ng restroom na ginamit din ng positive.

Yun nahawa eh nag self quarantine ng 3 weeks before the flight

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[dr. d]

Early Release - Asymptomatic Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 on Evacuation Flight - Volume 26, Number 11—November 22 - Emerging Infectious Diseases journal - CDC





Ito daw yun seat plan, naka n95 buong flight except nun gumamit lang ng restroom na ginamit din ng positive.

Yun nahawa eh nag self quarantine ng 3 weeks before the flight

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just looking at it,
i fail to see a pattern.

[boybi]

Early Release - Asymptomatic Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 on Evacuation Flight - Volume 26, Number 11—November 22 - Emerging Infectious Diseases journal - CDC





Ito daw yun seat plan, naka n95 buong flight except nun gumamit lang ng restroom na ginamit din ng positive.

Yun nahawa eh nag self quarantine ng 3 weeks before the flight

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It's just the result of 1 study. I thought meron news about many infections during flights.

I have been monitoring airline news, but haven't read any news about passenger infections during flights.

[shadow]

It's just the result of 1 study. I thought meron news about many infections during flights.

I have been monitoring airline news, but haven't read any news about passenger infections during flights.

Meron ka ba scheduled travel this year? [emoji3]


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[uls]

Abbott gets emergency use authorization for their rapid antigen test



this is the test

it's lateral flow like rapid antibody test but it detects viral antigen not antibodies

it uses a swab



ok ito

you don't need a PCR lab

the test looks for SARSCOV2's nucleocapsid