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    #16581
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post

    Dalawang beses na kaya minamalas new zealand. Nung last last month pinuri sa social media dahil nacontain na tapos biglang may hawaan nangyari. Tapos ngayon pinuri na naman, minalas ulit.

    Yung mga pumupuri hindi nagiisip. New zealand ang land area kasing laki ng pinas and only 5million katao. Ano kapuri-puri jan ang dali controllin kung ganyan kaliit population

    Nga-nga lang talaga peeenoise pag caucasian countries.

    Nanjan ang thailand, vietnam, singapore, taiwan. Ano ba problema matumal ang puri sa fellow asian countries.

    Peeeenoise are the feeling caucasians in asia.

    #nakikibelong

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    #16582
    Diba ikaw Kags nasabi nun umpisa na model president si dutiti sa pag handle niya dito sa China virus?


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    #16584
    ^
    oo, ako. Presdu is a model president. Tingnan mo nga wala pa rin chaos sa kalsada kahit walang trabaho. May balita ba sunod-sunod na nakawan. Its a peaceful metro manila.

    - imagine 110million population.

    - 12million metro manila, no zoning, unli squatters (do i need to post the land area?)

    -calabarzon na another tapunan ng squatter. (the most populous region 14.4million)

    - edsa another no zoning lots of malls

    - unli benta ng kotse and motorcycles

    Maghanap kayo bansa na democracy rule na ganito kadami population and ganito setup ng mga bahay at businesses

    Ako kasi hinihimay-himay ko talaga. Hindi pwede magcompare lang basta basta na "wow si new zealand magaling. = oo magaling 5million katao hahahahahah

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    #16585
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Misbehaving mainlanders give Chinese Filipinos a bad name – community leaders

    The real virus in our community.....

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    Dami kasin Tdk na pumupunta dito ay patapon sa kanila.

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    #16586
    the problem kasi sa news eh mali ang description na gamit nila. Dapat pag taga china eh = chinaman. Dapat nagaadjust ang journalism para mas maganda delivery like me.

    Masyado generalized yung chinese kas madami chiinese filipino sa pinas syempre born in the philippines. Tapos halos lahat sa forbes richest dito puro filipino-chinese. So mga masang pinoy at pasosy pinoy eh nagkakaroon tuloy ng inggit.

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    #16587
    Just walk with our doctor regarding rapid test and swabtest.... only 2 out of 10 positive rapid tested positive in swabtest. Employees who tested positive in rapid and negative in swab are furious because it is waste of time and money (no salary during 14-day quarantine). Company will just finish all unused rapid testkits and will not buy rapid testkit anymore. This is what im saying rapidtest is useless with very low accuracy.

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    #16588
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    New Zealand was acclaimed a world leader in handling COVID-19. Now it's dealing with a fresh outbreak

    Sayang new Zealand, sayang pinagpaguran nila.

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    sa lagay na yan they're in the middle of nowhere with a population of less than 5M

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    #16589
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Just walk with our doctor regarding rapid test and swabtest.... only 2 out of 10 positive rapid tested positive in swabtest. Employees who tested positive in rapid and negative in swab are furious because it is waste of time and money (no salary during 14-day quarantine). Company will just finish all unused rapid testkits and will not buy rapid testkit anymore. This is what im saying rapidtest is useless with very low accuracy.

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    folks,
    google "covid antigen antibody curves" and understand (i hope!).

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    #16590
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    folks,
    google "covid antigen antibody curves" and understand (i hope!).

    it's the timing of the tests that caused the head scratching

    let's say nag positive ka sa antibodies test so next step is swab

    by the time na-swab ka your immune system has already gotten rid of the virus from your nasopharyngeal area

    so negative ka sa PCR
    Last edited by uls; August 14th, 2020 at 11:57 AM.

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    #16591
    I really don't undertand why rapid test is currently getting all the flack.

    It's better than nothing, if they will totally ban it, I believe na mas lalong walang magpaptest dahil sa mahal ng swab testing.


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    #16592
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    it's the timing of the tests that caused the head scratching

    let's say nag positive ka sa antibodies test so dapat so next step is swab

    by the time na-swab ka your immune system has already gotten rid of the virus from your nasopharyngeal area

    so negative ka sa PCR
    It is just hard to synchronize everything from rapid to swabtest with thousand of employees to get a more accurate result. So bottomline we will just do it traditional way if you feel sick then take a rest and leave dont go to work take rapid or swabtest. If you dont feel sick by all means report to work.

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    #16593
    Rapidtest is useless because of its inaccuracy but should it be the other way around let say 8 out of 10 rapid positive and swabtest positive then im okay with rapidtest.

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    #16594
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    It is just hard to synchronize everything from rapid to swabtest with thousand of employees to get a more accurate result. So bottomline we will just do it traditional way if you feel sick then take a rest and leave dont go to work take rapid or swabtest. If you dont feel sick by all means report to work.

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    Paano kung asymptomatic? And with no work no pay, compromise ang honesty dyan.

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    #16595
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    it's the timing of the tests that caused the head scratching

    let's say nag positive ka sa antibodies test so dapat so next step is swab

    by the time na-swab ka your immune system has already gotten rid of the virus from your nasopharyngeal area

    so negative ka sa PCR
    alas!
    that is what the man on the street does not comprehend.

    these rapid tests are also known as screening tests. their main advantage is that they are cheap and rapid.
    but their results have a limitation that has to be addressed via more exacting test aka confirmatory test, i.e., the expensive PCR.

    would you guys prefer the more painful and more expensive PCR, instead?
    Last edited by dr. d; August 14th, 2020 at 11:48 AM.

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    #16596
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Rapidtest is useless because of its inaccuracy but should it be the other way around let say 8 out of 10 rapid positive and swabtest positive then im okay with rapidtest.

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    what if you had tested non-reactive to the rapid test?
    would you still be talking negatively of the rapid test?

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    #16597
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    It is just hard to synchronize everything from rapid to swabtest with thousand of employees to get a more accurate result. So bottomline we will just do it traditional way if you feel sick then take a rest and leave dont go to work take rapid or swabtest. If you dont feel sick by all means report to work.

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    Isn't it too late if we'll wait for symptoms onset? Baka nakahawa na yun pre-symptoms?


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    #16598
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Paano kung asymptomatic? And with no work no pay, compromise ang honesty dyan.
    We already done rapid with thousand of employees since June and only 2 out of 10 is confirmed covid positive. So how can you use something inaccurate as a gauge? So if there will be a much better way or testing let us know but as far as we are concern rapidtest has very poor accuracy employees are furious and want to report to dole because they are not sick and yet they are forced to take unpaid leave.

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    #16599
    Beware of imported frozen food...


    Coronavirus-infected frozen chicken wing could keep New Zealand in lockdown until OCTOBER | Daily Mail Online

    There was early speculation the virus arrived on the packaging of frozen-food shipments before infecting a family member - a worker at Americold - who unpacked them.

    The unexpected outbreak plunged New Zealand back into lockdown after 102 days without recording a locally transmitted case of the virus.

    Chinese health authorities have now revealed that traces of coronavirus have been found in frozen chicken wings and on food packaging.

    A sample taken from frozen chicken wings that had arrived in Shenzhen from Brazil were reportedly contaminated with COVID-19, with an epidemiologist now warning the public to take precautions around frozen food.

    Frozen shrimp from Ecuador sold in Xian also tested positive for coronavirus, according to local authorities, with the virus able to survive cold temperatures.

    This means that an infected worker at a frozen food storage facility could transmit the virus to unknowing shoppers, as the food is dished out to supermarkets across the country.

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    #16600
    So it was from imported frozen food. This will have implications on policy re:food security. Developed countries will have to go local a lot more. In countries like ours it's probably gonna be business as usual.
    Last edited by Wh1stl3r; August 14th, 2020 at 12:02 PM.

China Corona Virus Outbreak