China Corona Virus Outbreak

[shadow]

shadow, ung ginagawa sa manila na mass testing rapid test yan ha

sabi donated daw mga test kit

meron din swab test pero i think that's only done sa mga nag positive sa rapid test

Doesn't matter uls whether rapid or swab as along it's free. Ganyan ang kailangan para marami mag pa test.


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[uls]

Yun mga big time hardwares sa Binondo backers din ni Isko.


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sila Yale, Co Ban Kiat etc

i think it's coz big businessmen in Manila know it's in their best interest to get the epidemic in the city under control

disruptive kasi ung barangay lockdowns

[uls]

Doesn't matter uls whether rapid or swab as along it's free. Ganyan ang kailangan para marami mag pa test.


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yes same yung sa Project Ark ng business sector

rapid test better than nothing

[Ry_Tower]

Hinde ba nakakahiya ang national govt? If Manila can afford to offer free mass testing to residents and non-residents alike, hinde magawa ng national yan? Sila meron emergency power nasa kanila mga inutang na pera.


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Kapalmuks eh, puro kita habol ata. Anyway kung kulang baka sa economy nila dapat na lang ilagay. Mukhang matibay naman mga DDS eh.

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[dr. d]

Doc

sensya pero ask ko lang if you've ever seen a covid-19 igm/igg test kit cassette?

there are only 3 lines that you need to look at

control, igm, igg

when both igm and igg lines aren't present and only control line is present that means the test did not detect any antibodies

when both control line and igm line is present that means you need to get swabbed

yan ang na-experience ni Deestone

yespo.
these test kits are like the test kits used in other situations, like pregnancy test, other infectious disease test, etc.
ang nag-iiba lang, ay yung antibodies and antigens being used.
the basic mechanisms for the test are the same.

the problem is the interpretation.
the presence of that IgM line, simply means that you have detectable IgM in your blood.
consulting the antibody-antigen curves, there are two common possibilities: either you currently have the virus, or you are already rid of it.
thus the necessity for the swab. to determine which of the two, the patient is.
but to call the test "false positive" is erroneous.
to avoid this mis-understanding, enlightened medical practitioners report it simply as "reactive". it is up to the physician who ordered the test, to do the advised next step.
this is one reason why i personally find it ill-advised, to have the test kit available in mercury drug. because the danger of mis-interpretation is very real.

btw,
when both IgM and IgG are negative in the test kit, there are two common possibilities:
either the person has never had the infection,
or the person is in the early, non-detectable phase, of the infection.

[uls]

yespo.
these test kits are like the test kits used in other situations, like pregnancy test, other infectious disease test, etc.
ang nag-iiba lang, ay yung antibodies and antigens being used.
the basic mechanisms for the test are the same.

the problem is the interpretation.
the presence of that IgM line, simply means that you have detectable IgM in your blood.
consulting the antibody-antigen curves, there are two common possibilities: either you currently have the virus, or you are already rid of it.
thus the necessity for the swab. to determine which of the two, the patient is.
but to call the test "false positive" is erroneous.
to avoid this mis-understanding, enlightened medical practitioners report it simply as "reactive". it is up to the physician who ordered the test, to do the advised next step.
this is one reason why i personally find it ill-advised, to have the test kit available in mercury drug. because the danger of mis-interpretation is very real.

ok Doc got it

i shouldn't have used the term "false positive"

should have used the word "reactive"

[glenn_duke]

yespo.
these test kits are like the test kits used in other situations, like pregnancy test, other infectious disease test, etc.
ang nag-iiba lang, ay yung antibodies and antigens being used.
the basic mechanisms for the test are the same.

the problem is the interpretation.
the presence of that IgM line, simply means that you have detectable IgM in your blood.
consulting the antibody-antigen curves, there are two common possibilities: either you currently have the virus, or you are already rid of it.
thus the necessity for the swab. to determine which of the two, the patient is.
but to call the test "false positive" is erroneous.
to avoid this mis-understanding, enlightened medical practitioners report it simply as "reactive". it is up to the physician who ordered the test, to do the advised next step.
this is one reason why i personally find it ill-advised, to have the test kit available in mercury drug. because the danger of mis-interpretation is very real.

btw,
when both IgM and IgG are negative in the test kit, there are two common possibilities:
either the person has never had the infection,
or the person is in the early, non-detectable phase, of the infection.

Parang malaria test kit.

[dr. d]

ok Doc got it

i shouldn't have used the term "false positive"

should have used the word "reactive"

noted.

ang mga duktor naman,
they should sit down with the patient, and take time to explain these things to him.
tingnan mo si dee... nag-duda tuloy sa kanyang pagka-tao...

[uls]

btw,
when both IgM and IgG are negative in the test kit, there are two common possibilities:
either the person has never had the infection,
or the person is in the early, non-detectable phase, of the infection.

[dr. d]

Parang malaria test kit.

yan!

kapag reactive yung pregnancy test...
maraming na-gagalak,
at may nahihimatay o lumalambot ang tuhod.

[dr. d]

OK na ba yan,
o may required 14 day quarantine + re-test ulit?
heh heh.

[uls]

^^^

Like you said Doc, either haven't been exposed to SARSCOV2 or exposed but the body hasn't made detectable antibodies yet

so after 2 weeks uli

this is routine na for the foreseeable future

#newnormal

[dr. d]

^^^

Like you said Doc, either haven't been exposed to SARSCOV2 or exposed but the body hasn't made detectable antibodies yet

so after 2 weeks uli

this is routine na for the foreseeable future

#newnormal

honga.
let's see...
kung magtayo ako ng covid testing facility...?

but kapag may lumabas na vaccine next week...

hmmmm...

[uls]

honga.
let's see...
kung magtayo ako ng covid testing facility...?

but kapag may lumabas na vaccine next week...

hmmmm...

haha

i think labs are doing good these days

tuwing dumaan ako sa d tuazon dami tao sa isang lab doon (New World)

[cast_no_shadow]

Doesn't matter uls whether rapid or swab as along it's free. Ganyan ang kailangan para marami mag pa test.


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Hindi ko alam ano ba kasi talaga strategy ng National Government.

Philippine Red Cross is doing the PCR test already for free!

Technically hindi yan free, Philhealth ang magbabayad from the contribution ng members.

What Red cross is doing is establishing labs certified ni DOH / RITM and they are doing well! (Pogi nanaman si Gordon!)

Nakakatulong ba itong kanya kanya approach ng LGU?

Mas dodoble pa nga ang gastos ng tao at ng gobyerno, imagine ikaw nagpa rapid test ka (out of of pocket) then na nabalitaan mo yang “free testing” na yan uulit ka ng test. Open to all naman kahit for peace of mind lang daw.

I got tested by Red Cross in 1 day tapos na nila i-process yung specimen, yung pag notify talaga sa tinest ang backlog (got notified after 3 days pa isama mo pa na yung office eh sumama sa pangungulit for the release nung result)


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[shadow]

Wala talagang ano itong hayop na govt natin.


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[greenlyt]

Wala talagang ano itong hayop na govt natin.


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well according to malacanang, hindi daw

‘It’s working:' Palace defends virus response as cases hit 63K | Inquirer News

Malacañang on Friday defended the government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, as cases breached an earlier projection of 60,000 by the end of July.

Presidential spokesperson Harry Roque said the government’s response was still “effective,” since millions have been spared from contracting the illness.

[glenn_duke]

Hindi ko alam ano ba kasi talaga strategy ng National Government.

Philippine Red Cross is doing the PCR test already for free!

Technically hindi yan free, Philhealth ang magbabayad from the contribution ng members.

What Red cross is doing is establishing labs certified ni DOH / RITM and they are doing well! (Pogi nanaman si Gordon!)

Nakakatulong ba itong kanya kanya approach ng LGU?

Mas dodoble pa nga ang gastos ng tao at ng gobyerno, imagine ikaw nagpa rapid test ka (out of of pocket) then na nabalitaan mo yang “free testing” na yan uulit ka ng test. Open to all naman kahit for peace of mind lang daw.

I got tested by Red Cross in 1 day tapos na nila i-process yung specimen, yung pag notify talaga sa tinest ang backlog (got notified after 3 days pa isama mo pa na yung office eh sumama sa pangungulit for the release nung result)


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San ba ang magandang testing center (PcR)sa NCR na pwede walk-in na mabilis ang result at mura?

[cast_no_shadow]

San ba ang magandang testing center (PcR)sa NCR na pwede walk-in na mabilis ang result at mura?

Any big tertiary hospitals offers it shempre mas mahal

Try Red Cross, got tested dun sa EDSA Mandaluyong bago mag guadalupe.

Yung mabilis na result? Hmm cannot answer that since yung sa aken 3 days pa ako informed kahit in 1 day tapos na nila processing.


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[dr. d]

San ba ang magandang testing center (PcR)sa NCR na pwede walk-in na mabilis ang result at mura?

try the big hospitals.
at hindi po napapabilis yan.
hindi puedeng bilisin ang process. "masisira lang."

but there are these new, allegely faster, more expensive machines...
that every other country in the world wants their hands on...