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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    how about ung mga may business?

    how about si presidential adviser for entrepreneurship Joey Concepcion?

    he is speaking in behalf of the business community
    Joey told ANC’s Cathy Yang they now have about 168 companies, and around 1,016,000 kits that have been purchased. “But we already have some test kits that we’re using right now in the mass testing in Manila…

    “So what the private sector is trying to do in Project ARK is open up the economy. It is either you do lockdown or you do the test. It’s one of the two…

    “Eventually I’m seeing around 500 private companies taking part in this initiative. Testing is not just for this month, it’s forever until we find a cure for the virus…

    “Let’s look at the capacity right now. They’re supposed to hit 8,000 (tests) by April 30, they were not able to hit that…


    Close, open, close pa rin? | Philstar.com

    I' m for GCQ it's a modified ECQ naman, but only for cities that have flatten the curve and lockdown for districts that have high cases.

    What I'm worried is the govt that does not match its word “test, trace, and treat,” supposedly in that order but actually has been doing it in reverse.

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    Problema nga kung extend nanaman ng two weeks? Ano ba ma achieved? Eh wala naman ginagawa DOH. Yun target nilang testing capacity per day nagawa na ba? Wala nga plano eh...

    So pag dating ng ng 30th? Ano na kung ganito pa rin and numbers?
    i don't think doctors & other medical practitioners in the field are relying on the doh right now. it's the other way around. kaya nga sila nalalagas. sad to say they ( & we) are practically all on our own.

    i remember former digong philhealth point man dr anthony leachon stating on tv last march that the expectation is around 15,000 deaths in the country. right now it's "just" over 700 deaths here. maybe, just maybe, the local doctors are doing something right, given the ineptness of the gov't in handling this crisis, despite all the "praise release" it's been churning out. kung wala ang private sector, who knows kung saan tayo pupulitin.

    sa palagay ko, and this is my opinion only, ang rason na ang recommendatin nila for the ncr ecq kasi it all boils down to trying to buy more time until the mass testing protocols are fully set in place nationwide - w/c will in turn lead to a more intensive contact tracing (hopefully). alam natin na iyang mga iyan ang ilan lang sa mga susi sa pag tigil ng bugso ng covid 19. kaso inutil talaga ang buwakanang inang doh eh.

    bayanihan to act as one law sounds so hunky dory kaso hanggang ngayon mala tulo lang sa gripo ang lumalabas sa mga international loans na nakuha ng gobyerno. in short, the cash is there but it's also not there.
    Last edited by baludoy; May 11th, 2020 at 02:13 PM.

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    #11143
    Gamiting na kasi nila yun mga press released nilang quarantine centers.


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    #11144
    actually ung mga malaking kompanya ang mas gusto ma-lift ang ECQ (those represented by Joey Concepcion)

    coz every single day their businesses remain closed they're losing tons of money

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    smaller family-owned private businesses i know mostly wala utang

    mga property nila (office, store, warehouse etc) owned not rented

    wala obligasyon tapos liquid pa

    so kahit taon pa itagal ng ECQ kaya nila

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    thing is kawawa mga empleyado ng small businesses

    though business owners i know help their employees by giving them sacks of rice and canned goods and cash assistance hindi yan sustainable

    kailangan mag reopen
    Last edited by uls; May 11th, 2020 at 02:22 PM.

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    #11145
    ang lupet ng mga contractor iniwan nalang mga construction worker nila sa jobsite wala sweldo

    nasa news mga construction worker taga probinsya stranded sa metro manila dahil na-lockdown

    anong klase mga amo nila di man lang bigyan ng pambili pagkain
    Last edited by uls; May 11th, 2020 at 02:03 PM.

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    #11146
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang lupet ng mga contractor iniwan nalang mga contruction worker nila sa jobsite wala sweldo

    nasa news mga construction worker taga probinsya stranded sa metro manila dahil na-lockdown

    anong klase mga amo nila di man lang bigyan ng pambili pagkain
    lowest bidder.
    lowest quality.
    lowest humane-ness.

    tama kaya ba si duterte?
    i-ban na ang lowest bidder.
    Last edited by dr. d; May 11th, 2020 at 02:04 PM.

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    #11147
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang lupet ng mga contractor iniwan nalang mga construction worker nila sa jobsite wala sweldo

    nasa news mga construction worker taga probinsya stranded sa metro manila dahil na-lockdown

    anong klase mga amo nila di man lang bigyan ng pambili pagkain
    Govt projects ba o mga contractors lang ng mga residential?


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    Businessmen and the rich are too busy stashing their money they don't care about how this country is being ran by a mayor. They feel insulated by the inequalities and too detached from the abuses of the government and disrespect for the rule of law. Only when the economy is threatened to crash that they begin to worry about their investments and how to settle their obligations. The poor will be left to defend for themselves and remained manipulated by the government. The gullibles and idiots will continue to be influenced by what they read from different social media platforms and various fake news peddlers. Do we want this cycle to continue forever? Purge now and go back to basic.

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    #11149
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    lowest bidder.
    lowest quality.
    lowest humane-ness.

    tama kaya ba si duterte?
    i-ban na ang lowest bidder.

    may pera mga contractor na yan

    malamang puro nakatira sa exclusive village

    pero as soon as na-implement ung lockdown tigil agad sweldo sa mga tauhan

    lupet

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Govt projects ba o mga contractors lang ng mga residential?


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    di ko alam eh pero nasa news

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    #11150
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    may pera mga contractor na yan

    malamang puro nakatira sa exclusive village

    pero as soon as na-implement ung lockdown tigil agad sweldo sa mga tauhan

    lupet

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    di ko alam eh pero nasa news
    Paano na ung mga suppliers nila ng heavy equipment? May utang pa naman ung sa mga banko.

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    shadow example





    Last edited by uls; May 11th, 2020 at 02:29 PM.

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    Paano na ung mga suppliers nila ng heavy equipment? May utang pa naman ung sa mga banko.
    ung mga contractor na bumili ng heavy equipment sila ang may utang sa bangko

    bumili sila via financing like Orix Metro Leasing (owned by Metrobank) or BDO leasing etc

    as far as we're concerned bayad na kami

    di ko alam ano style ng ibang heavy equipment supplier

    may kilala ako nag papautang sa customer in-house financing 1 year to pay

    mag bibigay ung customer ng isang dated check + 11 post dated checks

    sigurado nagsi-talbugan mga cheke

    di namin style yan conservative kami

    DREAMUR noong isang araw ka pa parang meron ka gusto sabihin

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    #11153
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang lupet ng mga contractor iniwan nalang mga construction worker nila sa jobsite wala sweldo

    nasa news mga construction worker taga probinsya stranded sa metro manila dahil na-lockdown

    anong klase mga amo nila di man lang bigyan ng pambili pagkain
    Most of these are the SubContractors of the big Gen Contrators (MDC, MEC, Megawide, EEI, DMCI, etc) doing the office and residential buildings.
    By contracts these Sub Con has to the projects walang obligation yung mga Gen Con sa tao ng SubCon.
    Ang Mahirap pa nyan are the Payments of the Gen Con are usually Delayed.
    These SubCons arn't those uber rich persons. Most are middle income persons or company with lots of Loans from the bank.
    Kawawa yung mga Workers kasi they can't go home due to the Quarantine Can't send money home din dahil wala sweldo plus kulan pa yung binibigay na pagkain sa kanila.

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    #11154
    sa ngayon tulog mga inventory sa bodega

    di naman inuupahan ang bodega

    tsaka di naman utang ang puhunan

    kahit matulog yan nang ilan taon ok lang di naman nasisira ang heavy equipment di naman pagkain yan
    Last edited by uls; May 11th, 2020 at 02:50 PM.

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    #11155
    ^^^

    hindi nakapagtataka na nangyayayari ito sa atin.

    kahit nga sa mayayaman na bansa like switzerland ay problema din nila ang working poor dahil sa covid19 effect!

    More than 1, queue for food in rich Geneva amid virus shutdown

    GENEVA (Reuters) - More than 1,000 people queued up on Saturday to get free food parcels in Geneva, underscoring the impact of the coronavirus epidemic on the working poor and undocumented immigrants even in wealthy Switzerland.

    The line of people stretched for more than 1 km (half a mile) outside an ice rink where volunteers were handing out around 1,500 parcels to people who started queuing as early as 5 a.m.

    "At the end of the month, my pockets are empty. We have to pay the bills, the insurance, everything," said Ingrid Berala, a Geneva resident from Nicaragua who works part-time. "This is great, because there is food for a week, a week of relief...I don't know for next week."

    In a nation of nearly 8.6 million, 660,000 people in Switzerland were poor in 2018, charity Caritas says, particularly single parents and those with a low level of education unable to find work after losing a job.

    More than 1.1 million people were at risk of poverty, which means they have less than 60% of the median income, which was 6,538 Swiss francs ($6,736) for a full-time job in 2018.

    Swiss bank UBS has calculated that Geneva is the second-most expensive global city for a family of three to live in, behind only Zurich. While average incomes are also high, that helps little for people struggling to make ends meet.

    "I think a lot people are aware of this, but it is different to see this with your own eyes," said Silvana Matromatteo, head of the aid group Geneva Solidarity Caravan.

    "We had people in tears who said 'It is not possible that it is happening in my country'. But it is here and maybe the COVID-19 brought everything out and this is good, because we will be able to take measures to support all these workers, because they are workers above all."

    Patrick Wieland, chief of mission for the Doctors Without Borders group, said a survey last week showed just over half the food recipients interviewed were undocumented, while others had attained legal status, were Swiss or were seeking asylum.

    Just over 3% had been tested positive for COVID-19, three times the overall rate in Geneva, which he attributed to poor and overcrowded housing.

    "In Geneva, one of the richest cities in the world, there have always been people living precariously, especially all the people who work as housekeepers, in agriculture, on construction sites or in hotels, and they found themselves overnight without a job because of COVID-19," he said.

    One illegal immigrant who called himself Fernando said he lost his restaurant job during the crisis and had no pay.

    "I'm very grateful to receive this help and if the situation changes for me, I am committing to do the same thing that they are doing for me," he said.

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    A #COVID19 patient has escaped an isolation facility in Davao City last Saturday, Mayor Sara Duterte-Carpio confirms | via *ChrislenBulosan


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    #11157
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ung mga contractor na bumili ng heavy equipment sila ang may utang sa bangko

    bumili sila via financing like Orix Metro Leasing (owned by Metrobank) or BDO leasing etc

    as far as we're concerned bayad na kami

    di ko alam ano style ng ibang heavy equipment supplier

    may kilala ako nag papautang sa customer in-house financing 1 year to pay

    mag bibigay ung customer ng isang dated check + 11 post dated checks

    sigurado nagsi-talbugan mga cheke

    di namin style yan conservative kami

    DREAMUR noong isang araw ka pa parang meron ka gusto sabihin
    Uls, nun isang araw ko pa sinasabi na i-extend ang ECQ para magkaalaman na. You are safe pala kasi cash basis ang benta mo. Isa ka sa matitira kasi matibay ang business model mo.

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    #11158
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    sa ngayon tulog mga inventory sa bodega

    di naman inuupahan ang bodega

    tsaka di naman utang ang puhunan

    kahit matulog yan nang ilan taon ok lang di naman nasisira ang heavy equipment di naman pagkain yan
    But wear and tear sa rubber parts like gaskets, seals, and o rings. [emoji17]

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    But wear and tear sa rubber parts like gaskets, seals, and o rings. [emoji17]

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    Baka pwede nang ipapa-utang kasi defective na.

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