China Corona Virus Outbreak

[BratPAQ]

oh ok

akala ko magiging EECQ after April 30

Although some Congressman are suggesting extension of ECQ for 2 more weeks.

Lawmaker bats for two-week extension of ECQ after April 3

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[BratPAQ]

i guess in some cases this holds true: to have an immunity, you either have to get vaccinated or be exposed to viruses in the right amounts. The adage "What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger" holds some water i guess.

imho, while experts are still hesitant to make a statement on the matter, i really think the hot humid weather plays a factor. Yes, it's still contagious, but it may not have the same potency.

Maybe they're thinking about the psychology of affirming that hot humid weather = dead virus: people would get overconfident and poopoo this so-called pandemic even more.

Either that or we do have some sort of stronger immunity. i was expecting to see bodies stacked up in garbage trucks when i realized we had an outbreak here. To credit the low number of deaths to our "early decisive action" and "effective quarantine efforts" is an even bigger stretch than the theories put forth so far.

Meybe it's also the nature of their work and lifestyle. A lot of physical activity. Also limited access to food. There are studies that shows that people with limited caloric intake lives longer.

For squatters, daily activities/exercise and less food/diet is a must. While for rich folks diet and exercise everyday is optional and takes a lot of will power.

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[bloowolf]

Although some Congressman are suggesting extension of ECQ for 2 more weeks.

Lawmaker bats for two-week extension of ECQ after April 3

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Easy for them to say because of this

Living a life of luxury during lockdown.


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[tsupermario]

imho, while experts are still hesitant to make a statement on the matter, i really think the hot humid weather plays a factor. Yes, it's still contagious, but it may not have the same potency.

Maybe they're thinking about the psychology of affirming that hot humid weather = dead virus: people would get overconfident and poopoo this so-called pandemic even more.

Coronavirus US: Florida beaches to start reopening this evening | Daily Mail Online

sun + lockdown fatigue = beach

[shadow]

Although some Congressman are suggesting extension of ECQ for 2 more weeks.

Lawmaker bats for two-week extension of ECQ after April 3

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I'm also a proponent of 2 more weeks extension. Kailangan talaga sayang lang lahat ito. Ano ba yun 2 weeks pa? Para mabigyan ng chance mga LGUs na ma test kung sinong gusto nila dahil andyan pa mga tao. Pag lift mo then mag test ka good luck na lang.

But at the same time DOH mush get their acts together and concentrate on mass testing na.

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[uls]

i guess in some cases this holds true: to have an immunity, you either have to get vaccinated or be exposed to viruses in the right amounts. The adage "What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger" holds some water i guess.

imho, while experts are still hesitant to make a statement on the matter, i really think the hot humid weather plays a factor. Yes, it's still contagious, but it may not have the same potency.

Maybe they're thinking about the psychology of affirming that hot humid weather = dead virus: people would get overconfident and poopoo this so-called pandemic even more.

Either that or we do have some sort of stronger immunity. i was expecting to see bodies stacked up in garbage trucks when i realized we had an outbreak here. To credit the low number of deaths to our "early decisive action" and "effective quarantine efforts" is an even bigger stretch than the theories put forth so far.

ako din akala ko we're gonna be italy

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PH is undertesting

there should be a lot more cases than the official 6000

sabihin natin kulang ng isang zero -- there are 60,000 cases

using 2% case fatality rate there should be 1200 deaths

sabihin natin many deaths weren't counted as covid deaths

but you can't hide 800 pneumonia deaths that weren't included in the official count (official PH covid death count is 397)

lalabas at lalabas sa socmed yan

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conservative pa nga ung 2% case fatality rate

based on official numbers PH case fatality rate is 6.6%

[uls]

sabihin natin hindi nag pa-ospital mga slum dweller

ung mga may lagnat, ubo, hirap huminga... nandyan lang sila sa shanty nila

sooner or later they'll die

di mo matatago yan

you're gonna get reports of dozens of bodies being pulled from slum areas EVERYDAY

so far wala naman...

benefit of doubt baka kulang pa sa panahon

so give it another 2 weeks

[falken]

sabihin natin hindi nag pa-ospital mga slum dwellers

ung mga may lagnat, ubo, hirap huminga... nandyan lang sila sa shanty nila

sooner or later they'll die

di mo matatago yan

you're gonna get reports of dozens of bodies being pulled from slum areas EVERYDAY

so far wala naman...

benefit of doubt baka kulang pa sa panahon

so give it another 2 weeks

Maybe some were undocumented?

No sobbing but a lot of haggling at busy funeral home | Inquirer News




"Since March 23, the mortuary has cremated 120 bodies, of which only 29 had hospital documents showing they were COVID-19 cases. The ash is sealed in double ziplock bags then placed in a cloth sack.
“How do we really know which is which?” the 55-year-old funeral home manager asked. “Many others died in their homes. When we talked to the families, they always said: ‘He was still OK last night until he couldn’t breathe anymore.’ Or the chest suddenly tightened, or the fever and then diarrhea.”
“Aren’t these the same symptoms as those of the virus?” she asked."


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[tsupermario]

The massive gaps in the national government’s response has forced local governments to organize their own testing centers.

The Makati City government is collaborating with the Philippine Red Cross to conduct mass testing of those with COVID-19 symptoms and even asymptomatic frontliners. “You have to remember, the priority of the DOH are those who have symptoms of the virus. So we will be conducting our own testing. We will test our frontliners. We need to make sure that they are not sick,” said Makati Mayor Abby Binay.

Valenzuela City, meanwhile, has been testing its residents since last week in partnership with The Medical City. What it found was alarming: Five of 40 PUMs in the city tested positive for the virus, and two in another batch of 30, leading Mayor Rex Gatchalian to appeal to the DOH to review its guidelines. “By not testing PUMs, are we not in danger of releasing potential carriers into the community that may lead to contagion?” he asked.

Marikina City’s experience is perhaps the most telling example of DOH’s bureaucratic, hidebound ways in the face of a pandemic. The city set up a testing center as early as March, but had to relocate to another location to meet DOH’s biosafety guidelines.

The laboratory was finally approved by DOH only last Thursday — a weeks-long delay that so exasperated Marikina Mayor Marcelino Teodoro that he declared he would open the facility with or without a license, given the gravity of the situation: “Namamatay ang mga tao, hindi nila nate-test. Walang kapasidad, kulang na kulang ang testing center sa bansa, malinaw ‘yan… Malaking kasalanan sa tao, tingin ko, kung wala kang gagawin.”

That’s a fair assessment. As the government’s expanded testing kicks into high gear, leading to the projected rise in the number of people identified as positive and requiring quarantine or treatment, it would need to move much more urgently than it has demonstrated so far.

In terms of technical capacity alone, the DOH needs to increase the number of institutions that can operate 24/7 and process the tests. At present, there are only 16 laboratories handling the tests, while about 50 more are still facing an accreditation bottleneck at the department. Hospital capacity is, of course, another problem altogether. Because the country’s leaders reacted slowly, now the Philippines has to play catch up, big-time.

bagal ng DOH


Expanded testing, finally | INQUIRER.net Mobile

[boybi]

Maybe some were undocumented?

No sobbing but a lot of haggling at busy funeral home | Inquirer News




"Since March 23, the mortuary has cremated 120 bodies, of which only 29 had hospital documents showing they were COVID-19 cases. The ash is sealed in double ziplock bags then placed in a cloth sack.
“How do we really know which is which?” the 55-year-old funeral home manager asked. “Many others died in their homes. When we talked to the families, they always said: ‘He was still OK last night until he couldn’t breathe anymore.’ Or the chest suddenly tightened, or the fever and then diarrhea.”
“Aren’t these the same symptoms as those of the virus?” she asked."


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Pag sobra na dami nakukuhang namamatay, lalabas yan sa socmed. So far, wala pa naman.

Almost 400 na reported covid deaths natin, so within the number of deaths pa yang 120 cremated bodies.

[uls]

Maybe some were undocumented?

No sobbing but a lot of haggling at busy funeral home | Inquirer News




"Since March 23, the mortuary has cremated 120 bodies, of which only 29 had hospital documents showing they were COVID-19 cases. The ash is sealed in double ziplock bags then placed in a cloth sack.
“How do we really know which is which?” the 55-year-old funeral home manager asked. “Many others died in their homes. When we talked to the families, they always said: ‘He was still OK last night until he couldn’t breathe anymore.’ Or the chest suddenly tightened, or the fever and then diarrhea.”
“Aren’t these the same symptoms as those of the virus?” she asked."


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if things are really really bad here nobody can hide it

Ecuador:

(i'm using Ecuador as an example coz their official death count is similar to ours and we both have large slum population)

Coronavirus: Ecuador sees massive surge in deaths in April - BBC News

Ecuador's official coronavirus death toll is 403, but new figures from one province suggest thousands have died.

The government said 6,700 people died in Guayas province in the first two weeks of April, far more than the usual 1,000 deaths there in the same period.

Guayas is home to Guayaquil - the nation's largest city and the part of the country worst-hit by Covid-19.

Footage obtained by the BBC showed residents forced to store bodies in their homes for up to five days.

They said authorities had been unable to keep up with the huge rise in deaths, leaving corpses wrapped in sheets in family homes and even in the streets.

Authorities last week began distributing thousands of cardboard coffins in Guayaquil. A dedicated helpline was also set up for families that needed a corpse removed from their home.

Jorge Wated, the head of a police unit created to tackle the problem, said earlier this week that 771 bodies had been removed from houses in the city.

According to the government's figures, 14,561 people have died in Guayas province since the beginning of March from all causes. The province normally sees 2,000 deaths a month on average.

Ecuador as a whole has had 8,225 confirmed cases of coronavirus to date, according to Johns Hopkins University, though a lack of widespread testing means this is likely a significant undercount.

parang NCR

Guayaquil is densely populated and has high levels of poverty, with many residents living in close proximity.

[donbuggy]

my opinion.
the askals are a product of natural selection.
since no one takes care of them as much as the so-called more desire-able purebreeds, the weak ones die.
what remains, are the strong askals. these are the ones that multiply. the offspring get to inherit the strong traits.

Or maybe it was divine creation. God loves them so much He/She made them stronger.

[uls]

so if our official death count is severely off by several thousands you cannot hide it

you cannot hide news of thousands of bodies pulled from slum areas in NCR

lalabas sa socmed and legit media yan

so far wala pa

[dr. d]

Or maybe it was divine creation. God loves them so much He/She made them stronger.

"God moves in mysterious ways."

[XTO]

need i autopsy kung gusto malaman cause of death. sa panahon ng covid meron ba mag autopsy? kaya kung sumundo ng body mga funeraria naka full protection ang tao nila. kahit sabihin ng relatives na non-covid related cause of death maniniwala ba sila agad? sunog agad!

[Monseratto]

Regarding the PAF memo that got out on Soc Med...

LOOK: AFP spox Brigadier General Edgard Arevalo confirms internal memo of PH Air Force on "martial law-type role" of AFP, PNP, says document was issued to provide "advance information to give guidance to personnel" should President Duterte give final order for deployment. | via Mara Cepeda, Rappler.

[Monseratto]

S Korea joins HK and Taiwan in the single digit new cases list.

Early adoption of mandatory mask use proved better than physical distancing and mass testing... A covered infected mouth is better that standing 6 feet away from it.

South Korea reports single digit new coronavirus cases for the first time in two months - Reuters

[Monseratto]

Trump is already wondering why China's numbers are so low vs US. Obviously a total lockdown in just one province never crossed his mind. That stopping the spread is a concept he can't grasp.

Now his deplorables will make those already bad numbers even worst.

Hundreds Defy Common Sense, Safety At Infowars Rally To Reopen Businesses | HuffPost Australia

State Rep. to Join Anti-Lockdown Protest In Front of Maine Governor Mansion

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Plus they under report numbers of their deaths. [emoji40][emoji630]


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[Athrunzala]

Trump is already wondering why China's numbers are so low vs US. Obviously a total lockdown in just one province never crossed his mind. That stopping the spread is a concept he can't grasp.

Now his deplorables will make those already bad numbers even worst.

Nobody believes in China's doctored numbers anyway, even if there was a lockdown in one province