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    #35221
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    Kaya theres a great divide between employees and employers.

    Every company's now operating on limited capacity hence the lower production, and yet labor groups and employees want the companies to pay for their quarantine leaves, eh di parang naka full capacity ang expenses.

    A friend’s company got 30 positives, from office staff to production floor. So pilay sila, then bayaran pa nya yun naka quarantine?

    And btw bakit parang pinipenalize ang mga businesses when mas strict pa sa workplace when enforcing health protocols, pero paguwi ng some employees dun naman sila nagkahawaan. (ie inuman).
    So saan napunta yung mga Bayanihan Act monies?

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    #35222
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    Kaya theres a great divide between employees and employers.

    Every company's now operating on limited capacity hence the lower production, and yet labor groups and employees want the companies to pay for their quarantine leaves, eh di parang naka full capacity ang expenses.

    A friend’s company got 30 positives, from office staff to production floor. So pilay sila, then bayaran pa nya yun naka quarantine?

    And btw bakit parang pinipenalize ang mga businesses when mas strict pa sa workplace when enforcing health protocols, pero paguwi ng some employees dun naman sila nagkahawaan. (ie inuman).
    since the start of the pandemic the admin has been passing the burden to the private sectors. As in lahat..


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    I still think na nagkakahawaan talaga sa pagkain sa labas, inaalis kasi ang mask. But it's still relatively safe na mag grocery and lumabas as long as you keep your mask and never take it down.


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    #35224
    Sa dami ng inutang...

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    omicron wave is bad for employer-employee relations

    i'm not blaming anyone

    employers want to feel safe so they're testing employees

    employees are unhappy they're sent home even if they feel fine and able to work

    i've heard workers say "syempre uso sipon/ubo malamig ang panahon eh... covid agad??"

    they don't understand the specificity of covid antigen tests

    if this keeps going... this antigen testing and sending people home...

    resentment will build... it's bad for companies, bad for the economy, bad for society

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    #35226
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    since the start of the pandemic the admin has been passing the burden to the private sectors. As in lahat..


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    And yet in views of the employees, kulang pa rin ang ginagawa ng mga businesses.

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    Mga di naniniwala sa COVID nag-rally sa Liwasang Bonifacio

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    #35228
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    And yet in views of the employees, kulang pa rin ang ginagawa ng mga businesses.
    Pero hinde sila nakukulangan sa gobyerno.

    Remember when pina advanced yun 13 month during the pandemic?

    And bida nanaman yun gobyerno but they don't understand the burden sa mga employers nila.

    Early on sa lockdown tuloy pa rin bayad kahit closed mga businesses then kanino nag advance nun naging "no wokrk, no pay" na?

    Nun nag lcokdoen ulit last year who supported them? Ngayon pag mag lockdown ulit. Sino nanaman magbigay sa sa kanila ng support? Not the govt but their employers.


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    #35229
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    omicron wave is bad for employer-employee relations

    i'm not blaming anyone

    employers want to feel safe so they're testing employees

    employees are unhappy they're sent home even if they feel fine and able to work

    i've heard workers say "syempre uso sipon/ubo malamig ang panahon eh... covid agad??"

    they don't understand the specificity of covid antigen tests

    if this keeps going... this antigen testing and sending people home...

    resentment will build... it's bad for companies, bad for the economy, bad for society
    Thet can't see the bigger picture. Kung meron ako 10 workers and 2 positive pauwiin ko ang quarantine.

    Pwede pa rin mag tuloy yun negosyo kesa sa mag positve lahat or kahit 8 lang automatic sarado dahil pilay na.

    Self-interest and selfishness kasi which is a human nature.

    Last year kahit na 3x week na lang pasok at naging shifting ok na rin. Then dahil nagkaroon lang ng konting lull sa pandemic, nagkaroon ng semblance of normalcy. Gusto normal na ulit kahit madami nag positve sa Office.


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    #35230
    it depens.

    are we talking from the business-economics aspect?

    or are we talking from the health aspect?

    unless one takes a look at what the other is seeing,
    never shall the 'twain shall meet.

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    #35231
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
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    Sana may halong veerus yung tubig hehehe..




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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Sana may halong veerus yung tubig hehehe..



    Bakit parang shower lang? Baka hinde din naliligo mga yan parang si kags nakablibre pa ng shower.

    Dapat full blast yun buga ng hose.


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    #35234
    Even in the US, Acetaminophen/Paracetmol are disappearing from the shelves in CVS Pharmacies...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post




    too much credit to vaccines

    it's already established that omicron evades immune defenses generated by gen-1 vaccines and previous infection by older variants



    kaya mostly mild coz omicron infects only the upper respiratory tract

    unlike delta gusto sa lungs


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    #35236
    RT-PCR wlll only be used to determine seriousness of infection...



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    nagkataon kumalat ang isang variant that only prefers the upper respiratory tract

    the authorities then credit the lower severity to vaccines

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    #35238
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    RT-PCR wlll only be used to determine seriousness of infection...


    tama yan

    para hindi #casedemic

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    #35239
    Adrenous vaccines not very promising...

    Eric Topol
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    Evidence for vaccine protection vs Omicron symptomatic hospital admission (For Covid) among cases tested in outpatient settings




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    That is what we are observing clinically.

    Last edited by Monseratto; January 12th, 2022 at 11:44 AM.

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    #35240
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    tama yan

    para hindi #casedemic
    Ano ibig sabihin? Hinde na need PCR test?


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