China Corona Virus Outbreak

[boybi]

ayaw parin nila tanggapin ung mRNA vax that generates wuhan spike is no longer effective against omicron coz omicron's spike is different from wuhan spike

So should I wait for an Omicron specific vaccine for my kids' booster shots?

[uls]

Because no one wants to be Q’ed. But employers should pay them when Q’ed.


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kaya i posted the other day i think magkakaroon ng resentment mga workers sa mga employers coz so many are being told not to come to work for 5/7 days

ung iba healthy walang sakit di pwede pumasok

naturally magkakaroon ng resentment yan

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all this omicron paranoia / hysteria will have an effect on society

di lang sa health, di lang sa economy

it will become obvious later

[kagalingan]

ayaw ng authorities ung lumilihis sa official narrative

kasi ang dating niyan "ok lang mahawaan ng omicron... parang bakuna na din yan pag na-omicron ka"

reaction ng mga authorities "di mo pwede sabihin yan!"

libre kasi omicron immunity.

Pag medical community madami pa ceremonyas syempre kailangan magkapera.

[uls]

So should I wait for an Omicron specific vaccine for my kids' booster shots?

i guess...




i'm on the fence right now re boosters...

[Monseratto]

It’s not yet clear why an mRNA booster dramatically improves immune protection against Omicron, but Garcia-Beltran says one possibility is that an additional dose creates antibodies that bind more tightly to the spike protein, increasing their effectiveness. Also, a booster dose may generate antibodies that target regions of the spike protein that are common to all forms of SARS-CoV-2. Both theories may be true, says Garcia-Beltran.

Balazs notes that the three-dose mRNA vaccine regimen — that is, the traditional two doses and a booster of Pfizer or Moderna vaccines — provides somewhat lower levels of neutralizing antibodies against Omicron than it does against the COVID-19 wild type strain or Delta variant. But the study’s results strongly support the CDC’s advice that COVID-19 booster shots are appropriate for anyone 16 and older, and that mRNA vaccines are preferred.

No Omicron immunity without booster, study finds – Harvard Gazette

[dr. d]

ayaw parin nila tanggapin ung mRNA vax that generates wuhan spike is no longer effective against omicron coz omicron's spike is different from wuhan spike

reading the quoted link, this is what i understood about mRNA-1273 vaccine.

the second dose of the vaccine showed a 30% effectiveness against omicron within 90 days, and the third dose gave 62% effectiveness against omicron.
effectiveness was considerably lower, however, for immunocompromised patients.

also, none of those vaccinated three times, were hospitalized.
some of those not vaccinated thus, were hospitalized.

so, no.
the vaccine is not as useless as believed.

btw,
the research article has not yet been verified by the "readers".
"readers" are experts in the field, tasked with critiqueing the research article, to see if 'it is up to snuff'.

[boybi]

libre kasi omicron immunity.

Pag medical community madami pa ceremonyas syempre kailangan magkapera.

Puro ka satsat e, last year pa kita hinahamon magpunta sa covid wards ng mga hospitals without and PPE. Para patunayan mo kagalingan mo. Liber kita lianhua kapag nagkasakit ka sa covid. Now is the time magpa infect ka na ng omicron kung sa palagay mo eto na ang sagot sa immunity against covid.

[Yatta]

reading the quoted link, this is what i understood about mRNA-1273 vaccine.

the second dose of the vaccine showed a 30% effectiveness against omicron within 90 days, and the third dose gave 62% effectiveness against omicron.
effectiveness was considerably lower, however, for immunocompromised patients.

also, none of those vaccinated three times, were hospitalized.
some of those not vaccinated thus, were hospitalized.

so, no.
the vaccine is not as useless as believed.

btw,
the research article has not yet been verified by the "readers".
"readers" are experts in the field, tasked with critiqueing the research article, to see if 'it is up to snuff'.

That "delta-cron" in Cyprus is being questioned for likely contamination of the sample.

[thearsenal1205]

archive.is




4chan forum predicting the covid19. Conspiracy theory, prediction or leaked? Check the date...

[uls]

reading the quoted link, this is what i understood about mRNA-1273 vaccine.

the second dose of the vaccine showed a 30% effectiveness against omicron within 90 days, and the third dose gave 62% effectiveness against omicron.
effectiveness was considerably lower, however, for immunocompromised patients.

also, none of those vaccinated three times, were hospitalized.
some of those not vaccinated thus, were hospitalized.

so, no.
the vaccine is not as useless as believed.

btw,
the research article has not yet been verified by the "readers".
"readers" are experts in the field, tasked with critiqueing the research article, to see if 'it is up to snuff'.

so why wouldn't those wuhan spike mRNA boosters restore protection back to 90+ percent?

2020/early 2021:


because when studies were being done more than a year ago, there was no delta, there was no omicron

the variants present during that time were closer to the ancestor variant

now pag nag booster ka with the same vaccines, you only get a slight increase in protection which then drops quickly

[Monseratto]

What's Taiwan opinion?

The opportunity of Omicron | Taiwan News | 222-1-9 11:6:

KAOHSIUNG (Taiwan News) — Perhaps Chinese dictator Xi Jinping (習近平) missed a trick when he instructed the World Health Organization to skip the Greek letter Xi from its COVID-19 variant categorizations.

It is still early, but the Omicron variant, as it was eventually monikered, looks increasingly likely to be the world’s ticket out of the pandemic that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) thrust upon it at the start of 2020.

Thank God the CCP’s propagandists are too busy making risible James Bond parodies to spot a real opportunity for positive publicity when it rears its head.

Here in Taiwan, the narrative around Omicron continues to be largely the same as with previous variants. Media hysteria is generating panic, and people who are testing positive for the new strain, such as those in the Taoyuan Airport cluster, are being attacked publicly for putting Taiwanese society at risk.

These attacks are grossly unfair. Almost everyone who has tested positive for Omicron has had mild or no symptoms, and it is quite understandable that they didn’t immediately leap to the conclusion that they were positive.

Far from being the dangerous new threat most of our media likes to portray it as, Taiwan now needs to look upon Omicron as an opportunity to move out of its self-imposed isolation, to shift away from the zero-COVID policy it has followed so far, and return life back to normal.

The evidence that this is the correct approach is already abundantly clear in the data about Omicron from other countries.

Firstly, now that Omicron is in Taiwan, it is here to stay. This is by far the most contagious COVID-19 variant we have seen so far, and nothing we do now is likely to stop its spread.

Data from rapidly increased infection rates in South Africa (where the variant first emerged), the U.K., France, and other countries show this all too clearly. It would be naïve to think that Taiwan will be any different.

Furthermore, Omicron’s incubation period appears to be shorter. One study of an outbreak following a Christmas party in Norway found the average period of incubation was just three days, compared with six to 14 for previous variants.

This shortened incubation will make it far harder for Taiwan’s impressive test and trace system and will help the variant spread.

Restrictive measures don’t appear to have a huge impact either. France has imposed stringent restrictions over the holiday period, but it was still recording more than 300,000 confirmed cases a day at the time of writing.

[uls]

so in my view (which i'm allowed to express) if you keep boosting with wuhan spike vaccines you're permanently imprinting the extinct antigen into your memory immune cells

and when you encounter future SARSCOV2 variants, your immune system only knows how the fight the old variant

you're only hoping there's some protection left... some cross reactivity... which may be 0% with future variants

[kagalingan]

Puro ka satsat e, last year pa kita hinahamon magpunta sa covid wards ng mga hospitals without and PPE. Para patunayan mo kagalingan mo. Liber kita lianhua kapag nagkasakit ka sa covid. Now is the time magpa infect ka na ng omicron kung sa palagay mo eto na ang sagot sa immunity against covid.

oo bhoybs at hangang ngayon masigla kahit ayaw ko sa tag-lamig.

iLan taon na covid, lagi ako labas ng labas kausap talsikan pa lahway.

Subukan ko makigulo sa emergency ng hospital magmimingle ako tapos post ko dito with my taeh shots.

bhoybs hindi mo matanggap meron isang nilalang napakatibay. ( taeh ko na lang wala makatapat)

unvaxx, unligo, unalcohol, unparacetamod.... walang iniinom na bolahan na gamot.

Pero ngayon hindi mainit magpapahid ako transdermal route vitamin d3.

[uls]

What's Taiwan opinion?

The opportunity of Omicron | Taiwan News | 2?22-?1-?9 11:?6:??

more countries should view omicron in the same way

pero malabo dito sa pinas

2020/21 covid mentality is alive and welll

COVID = DEATH

yan parin ang mentality ng madaming pinoy

[uls]

What's Taiwan opinion?

The opportunity of Omicron | Taiwan News | 2?22-?1-?9 11:?6:??

Mons,

send mo kay leachon

[dr. d]

so why wouldn't those wuhan spike mRNA boosters restore protection back to 90+ percent?

antigenic drift.
alas, we'll probably have to live with it for a while,
until the covid virus stabilizes its genome enough, for our scientists to come up with a worthy-enough vaccine.

to vaccine or not to vaccine?
if the omicron mortality rate is 0.6% (6 in 1000 infected),
what is the vaccine's mortality or morbid morbidity rate?
compare the two, then decide whether we want to vaccine or not.

[111prez]

Bilis ng usad ng diskusyon dito ah

Pag may surge sa labas, may surge din dito.

Demonyo talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

[Sweetlucious]

Because no one wants to be Q’ed. But employers should pay them when Q’ed.


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Hahaha sure.

Lets add to the burden of the employers.

[shadow]

I personally wouldn't think like that, na tutal mild lang naman kaya ok lang. I will still do all th steps not to be infected by Omicron or whatever variants.

Kung ordinary flu ayaw natin matamaan eh what more for covid-19?


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[uls]

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