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    #27861
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Huh? what do you mean? Are we supposed to live life normal again with partial protection? I'm not that suicidal, mahal magkasakit ng covid. I won't risk it

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    we can only lay the facts before you.
    far be it that we will expect you to think like us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    we can only lay the facts before you.
    far be it that we will expect you to think like us.
    Kaya nga doc I am asking you. Do you believe that those injected with sinovac can go on with their lives normally na? Eat out in a restaurant, attend mass, go to gatherings etc just like those with mRNA vaccine. Because I believe sinovac offers very little protection and I will continue to function as if I have ZERO protection

    But if all of us at home are vaccinated with mRNA, talagang magbubuhay normal na ako. I can't wait to see my friends and eat at a restaurant or go home to the province with my family again

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Kaya nga doc I am asking you. Do you believe that those injected with sinovac can go on with their lives normally na? Eat out in a restaurant, attend mass, go to gatherings etc just like those with mRNA vaccine. Because I believe sinovac offers very little protection and I will continue to function as if I have ZERO protection

    But if all of us at home are vaccinated with mRNA, talagang magbubuhay normal na ako. I can't wait to see my friends and eat at a restaurant or go home to the province with my family again
    experts do not know how pfizer will protect the vaccinateds and those around them.
    they do not know how long the protection will last.
    they do not know if the vaccine will protect the folks from getting infected, from passing on the infection to others.
    they do not know how useful it will be, when other variants start showing up.
    so, no.
    pfizer won't yet allow you to live life as you knew it before covid.
    i doubt it will even en-license you to remove that mask and face shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Kaya nga doc I am asking you. Do you believe that those injected with sinovac can go on with their lives normally na? Eat out in a restaurant, attend mass, go to gatherings etc just like those with mRNA vaccine. Because I believe sinovac offers very little protection and I will continue to function as if I have ZERO protection

    But if all of us at home are vaccinated with mRNA, talagang magbubuhay normal na ako. I can't wait to see my friends and eat at a restaurant or go home to the province with my family again
    Chill lang.[emoji4] 2 weeks after your 2nd Sinovac dose, you are protected against moderate/severe covid. You can go out but with mask and still practicing health protocols. You can meet your friends but practice social distancing. Most importantly, do this only if all of you in the house are fully vaccinated with the 2 week wait. Al fresco dining muna. Don’t live in fear. Calculated risk muna tayo. Honestly, if you’re sure your friends are negative, I think you’re all safe to dine out. When your fave mRNA vaccine becomes widely available, be free to get it rightaway. Do not regret getting Sinovac.


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    Because of the AZN manufacturing mix up...


    J&J's Covid-19 vaccine: No shipments have gone out from the government in weeks, official tells CNN - CNNPolitics


    No shipments of Johnson & Johnson's coronavirus vaccine have gone out from the federal government in several weeks, CNN has learned, because the one-shot vaccine is in short supply.

    The government has not sent any doses of the J&J vaccine to states since the first week of May, an official told CNN. That figure is in line with data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on vaccine shipments.

    The lag comes, however, as the pace of vaccination has slowed in recent weeks and nearly half of the eligible US population -- people 12 and older -- is already fully vaccinated. The J&J vaccine is authorized for use in people 18 and older.

    Nearly 11 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine -- about half of the more than 21 million doses that have been delivered to states and other jurisdictions -- have not been administered, according to CDC data.

    However, doses will go overseas, White House Covid-19 Response Coordinator Jeff Zients said. "We are shipping Johnson & Johnson doses to other countries," Zients told CNN's Jake Tapper on Thursday.

    The lack of shipments is directly linked to the issues related to the Emergent BioSolutions plant in Baltimore. The facility, which has struggled with contamination problems, still hasn't produced a single usable dose of J&J's vaccine as it awaits regulatory approval from the US Food and Drug Administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Kaya nga doc I am asking you. Do you believe that those injected with sinovac can go on with their lives normally na? Eat out in a restaurant, attend mass, go to gatherings etc just like those with mRNA vaccine. Because I believe sinovac offers very little protection and I will continue to function as if I have ZERO protection

    But if all of us at home are vaccinated with mRNA, talagang magbubuhay normal na ako. I can't wait to see my friends and eat at a restaurant or go home to the province with my family again
    Yes pag marami na nabakunahan dito. You're comparing other countries like America and Israel to us. Kailan ba sila nag luwag nun marami na nabakunahan..

    Hindd pa ngayon siyempre dahil konti pa lang nabakunahan kung 50-70% na nabakunahan siguro ng sinovac dito sa Pilipinas balik na rin tayo sa normal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    experts do not know how pfizer will protect the vaccinateds and those around them.
    they do not know how long the protection will last.
    they do not know if the vaccine will protect the folks from getting infected, from passing on the infection to others.
    they do not know how useful it will be, when other variants start showing up.
    so, no.
    pfizer won't yet allow you to live life as you knew it before covid.
    i doubt it will even en-license you to remove that mask and face shield.
    doc pag Pfizer dead host na daw kaya talagang pwede na mag normal life kasi hindi ka na makakahawa and even if you have it since mataas protection ng mRNA you are likely to be asymptomatic or moderate symptoms lang. Sa US halos back to normal na sila

    Quote Originally Posted by H1Tman View Post
    Chill lang.[emoji4] 2 weeks after your 2nd Sinovac dose, you are protected against moderate/severe covid. You can go out but with mask and still practicing health protocols. You can meet your friends but practice social distancing. Most importantly, do this only if all of you in the house are fully vaccinated with the 2 week wait. Al fresco dining muna. Don’t live in fear. Calculated risk muna tayo. Honestly, if you’re sure your friends are negative, I think you’re all safe to dine out. When your fave mRNA vaccine becomes widely available, be free to get it rightaway. Do not regret getting Sinovac.

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    We are all vaccinated na with sinovac at home but I am still scared to go out, I go out once a month, but if I can't help it and have other errands, dapat 1 week intervals and I NEVER EVER take off my mask when I am out, kaya if I am out 6 hrs that means no food or drinks the whole time. Sobrang hassle Lately I've been feeling bad na kasi I am getting tired of this imprisoned lifestyle I am so irritated na because I can't do normal things until now (example last haircut ko was January 2020) Nag comment pa BFF ko na I gave up fashion for health LOL (totoo naman ang manang ko na!)

    Most my friends that I meet regularly kasi not vaccinated pa kasi mga young and healthy but I think they qualify na for A4, I don't regret sinovac naman. I am thinking after the 2 week wait baka pwede hindi na kami mag mask sa loob ng bahay and I could stop disinfecting all our groceries?

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Yes pag marami na nabakunahan dito. You're comparing other countries like America and Israel to us. Kailan ba sila nag luwag nun marami na nabakunahan..

    Hindd pa ngayon siyempre dahil konti pa lang nabakunahan kung 50-70% na nabakunahan siguro ng sinovac dito sa Pilipinas balik na rin tayo sa normal.


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    kelan pa? 2023? Saka kung sinovac pa rin ang majority sa Pilipinas, kahit 80% pa yan, I will still live my quarantine life kasi pag sinovac contagious pa rin diba? Dapat talaga mRNA vaccine para maka back to normal, kasi pag mRNA dead host na
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    Just to let you know Cathy, I’ve been going to work everyday. Since the ecq was lifted. I’ve been having haircuts monthly with my trusted barber. Going to groceries at least twice a month. Buying medicines. Having car repairs. I only keep in mind social distancing + mask. Alcohol when you can, wash hands when possible, as soon as you get home. Don’t touch your face. We eat out sometimes but al fresco. We’re not back to normal, but we’re living with what we can. Surface infections are low risk. High risk is interacting with C19 positive individuals close and enclosed.


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    #27869
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i do not know exactly what fauci said, but
    why?
    how does one compare the opinion of a so-called expert, with the opinion of the presumed un-educated public?
    Athrunzala will never answer a rebuttal. He can never defend his comments.


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    Tsikoteers! My friends at my GC told me na if you have side effects from the vaccine it means that it is WORKING. I did not have side effects so does that mean it did not work on me? Si shadow wala din side effects diba Sabi pa sakin na confirmed daw ng isang doctor cousin na side effects means it's working! Naiinis tuloy ako Mga anti sinovac mga yan kasi

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    Quote Originally Posted by H1Tman View Post
    Just to let you know Cathy, I’ve been going to work everyday. Since the ecq was lifted. I’ve been having haircuts monthly with my trusted barber. Going to groceries at least twice a month. Buying medicines. Having car repairs. I only keep in mind social distancing + mask. Alcohol when you can, wash hands when possible, as soon as you get home. Don’t touch your face. We eat out sometimes but al fresco. We’re not back to normal, but we’re living with what we can. Surface infections are low risk. High risk is interacting with C19 positive individuals close and enclosed.


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    I am tempted na nga to have a haircut and mani pedi pero home service and I will have it done sa garden. It's so hard kasi before I used to have my nails done at least once a month, ang kati kati ng cuticle 1.5 yrs na My dentist naman walang practice since lockdown last year

    Yung Mom ko pala na suspend yung SSS pension since 2020, until now hindi ko maasikaso kasi I don't wanna go SSS Saka none of us had our check up kasi takot pumunta hospital. So many things to do hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Tsikoteers! My friends at my GC told me na if you have side effects from the vaccine it means that it is WORKING. I did not have side effects so does that mean it did not work on me? Si shadow wala din side effects diba Sabi pa sakin na confirmed daw ng isang doctor cousin na side effects means it's working! Naiinis tuloy ako Mga anti sinovac mga yan kasi
    Don’t take it literally. Vaccination is like an allergic reaction, from the viral particles, the proteins & the adjuvant, which is an additive that induces a better immune response. Like allergies, people react differently. Some worse than others. They all work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Tsikoteers! My friends at my GC told me na if you have side effects from the vaccine it means that it is WORKING. I did not have side effects so does that mean it did not work on me? Si shadow wala din side effects diba Sabi pa sakin na confirmed daw ng isang doctor cousin na side effects means it's working! Naiinis tuloy ako Mga anti sinovac mga yan kasi
    So what happened to the doctors who said their antibodies is high. Hindi totoo yang unpleasant side effects = vax working. Don’t believe that ****. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Don’t take it literally. Vaccination is like an allergic reaction, from the viral particles, the proteins & the adjuvant, which is an additive that induces a better immune response. Like allergies, people react differently. Some worse than others. They all work.

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    okay that's good to know

    Quote Originally Posted by H1Tman View Post
    So what happened to the doctors who said their antibodies is high. Hindi totoo yang unpleasant side effects = vax working. Don’t believe that ****. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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    hay naku! Kaya ako hindi bilib sa lahat ng doctors, may iba kung ano ano sinasabi Na stress tuloy ako sa it probably didn't work because I had no side effects (sa skin allergy test kasi madami akong allergies LOL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I am tempted na nga to have a haircut and mani pedi pero home service and I will have it done sa garden. It's so hard kasi before I used to have my nails done at least once a month, ang kati kati ng cuticle 1.5 yrs na My dentist naman walang practice since lockdown last year

    Yung Mom ko pala na suspend yung SSS pension since 2020, until now hindi ko maasikaso kasi I don't wanna go SSS Saka none of us had our check up kasi takot pumunta hospital. So many things to do hehehe
    Yung SSS pension annual appearance yata Pwede online. Or thru the bank lang. check with her bank for the pension. I’ve been to Makati Med at least 3 times. Hiwalay naman covid area. And the doctors meet by appointment lang so halos walang tao. Kung delikado sa hospital clinic, pano na mga secretary ng doctor na buong araw andun? Ung secretary ng ortho wife gf ko, senior citizen pa!


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Tsikoteers! My friends at my GC told me na if you have side effects from the vaccine it means that it is WORKING. I did not have side effects so does that mean it did not work on me? Si shadow wala din side effects diba Sabi pa sakin na confirmed daw ng isang doctor cousin na side effects means it's working! Naiinis tuloy ako Mga anti sinovac mga yan kasi
    GC is like cesspool. Filter the information.


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    Quote Originally Posted by H1Tman View Post
    Yung SSS pension annual appearance yata Pwede online. Or thru the bank lang. check with her bank for the pension. I’ve been to Makati Med at least 3 times. Hiwalay naman covid area. And the doctors meet by appointment lang so halos walang tao. Kung delikado sa hospital clinic, pano na mga secretary ng doctor na buong araw andun? Ung secretary ng ortho wife gf ko, senior citizen pa!


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    I did go to the bank several time na and I also called and emailed SSS pero pinagpapasa pasahan ako! How frustrating this government. What is funny if she did her annual appearance BEFORE the lockdown pero na suspend pa rin. My last resort is to go to an SSS office na talaga kasi almost one year na ko pinagpapasa pasahan. That's Philippine public service and efficiency

    Wow pwede pala mag work mga seniors? Naiinis na nga Mom ko sakin kasi I am controlling her too much daw, she has literally been out TWICE since the lockdown in March 2020 and that was to have her covid shots. Pinagsabihan ko pa kasi nakakita ng mga kakilala sa site I told her not to chit chat anymore LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    GC is like cesspool. Filter the information.


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    puro mga galing top schools pa yan, matutuwa si kags pag nabasa niya eto HAHAHA

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    CDC To Hold "Emergency Meeting" After 100s Suffer Heart Inflammation Following COVID Vaccines


    CDC To Hold "Emergency Meeting" After 100s Suffer Heart Inflammation Following COVID Vaccines


    Update (2000ET): The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Thursday that it will convene an "emergency meeting" of its advisers on June 18th to discuss rare but higher-than-expected reports of heart inflammation following doses of the mRNA-based Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.

    The new details about myocarditis and pericarditis emerged first in presentations to a panel of independent advisers for the Food and Drug Administration, who are meeting Thursday to discuss how the regulator should approach emergency use authorization for using COVID-19 vaccines in younger children.

    As CBS reports, the CDC previously disclosed that reports of heart inflammation were detected mostly in younger men and teenage boys following their second dose, and that there was a "higher number of observed than expected" cases in 16- to 24-year-olds. Last month, the CDC urged providers to "ask about prior COVID-19 vaccination" in patients with symptoms of heart inflammation.

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    True to your motto : We Misinform


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    Quote Originally Posted by Papajamba View Post

    True to your motto : We Misinform


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    This is from CNBC.COM

    Covid vaccine: CDC says heart inflammation in 16- to 24-year-olds higher than expected after second shot

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    The number of cases of a heart inflammation condition in 16- to 24-year-olds was higher than expected after they received their second dose of Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccines, the CDC said.
    There have been 275 reported cases of myocarditis or pericarditis, which are inflammation conditions involving the heart, in people ages 16 to 24 as of May 31, according to a CDC presentation.


    There have been a higher-than-expected number of cases of heart inflammation in 16- to 24-year-olds after receiving their second dose of Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccines, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday, citing preliminary data from its vaccine safety monitor system.

    The CDC has received reports of 275 cases in that age group as of May 31, the agency said in a presentation prepared for a Food and Drug Administration advisory panel meeting Thursday. Scientists expected between 10 and 102 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis — where the heart muscle or the lining surrounding it become inflamed, according to the CDC.


    and that is from CNBC.COM

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