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    #27661
    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    kaya hindi bumaba casew sa boracay, 10+ new cases everyday is big for a small island.

    today lang they have 18.
    Metro Manila tourists flood Boracay

    17 new cases today

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    #27662
    May J&J vaccine na pala tayo? A relative posted on FB na they got J&J sa Makati Med

    EDIT Clinical trial pala!

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    #27663
    Higit 4 kawani ng call center company sa Davao City positibo sa COVID-19 | ABS-CBN News

    Heavily infected BPO in Davao

    Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

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    #27664
    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    just ignore the news re: new cases in boracay

    diba you said there's nothing to fear it's the media that's causing fear with 24/7 coverage

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    #27665
    AstraZeneca second dose: Should I get the same vaccine or choose Pfizer or Moderna?

    Let’s begin with the evidence we have so far around mixing and matching vaccines, specifically AstraZeneca and Pfizer/BioNtech (Pfizer). On May 12, initial data on reactogenicity (the ability to produce common side-effects) data from the COM-CoV study in the United Kingdom was released. It included 830 people ages 50 and older, who were randomized into four study arms that received different combinations of AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines at four-week dosing intervals.

    Participants who received different vaccines for their first and second doses, regardless of sequence of vaccination, had more side-effects (non-serious ones that resolved on their own) than those who received the same vaccine twice. No safety concerns were noted.

    Experts theorized that the greater number of side-effects might predict a more robust immune response, but immunogenicity (the ability of the vaccine to provoke an antibody response) data is still pending and expected later this month.

    Results from the Spanish CombiVacS study were reported on May 18. The study randomized 663 people who received AstraZeneca as their first dose to either receive Pfizer as a second dose booster eight weeks later, or into a control group with no second dose at all.

    Those who received AstraZeneca followed by Pfizer developed twice as many antibodies as historically seen in people who received two doses of AstraZeneca alone. No safety concerns were identified.

    A recent study from Germany released June 1 as a non peer-reviewed preprint adds additional information around mixing and matching AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines. This preliminary data included 26 individuals, ages 25 to 46, who were administered AstraZeneca as their first dose of vaccine, followed by a second dose of Pfizer given eight weeks later.

    Neutralizing activity was 3.9 times greater against the alpha (B.1.1.7) variant and similar against the delta (B.1.617.2) variant compared to neutralizing activity seen in people who received two doses of Pfizer vaccine. No safety concerns were noted.

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    #27666
    So AZ + Pfizer is better than AZ + AZ. How about compared to Pfizer + Pfizer? I think it is mentioned in this thread na 1st dose pa lang ng Pfizer eh malaki na effectivity.


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    #27667
    Personally I'll go with another sinovac for my booster shot later this year, parang wala akong tiwala sa mixing ng vaccines.


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    #27668
    Another covid-19 surge in July or August?


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    #27669
    kung totoo ung sinasabi nila mas nakakahawa pa sa UK variant ang Indian variant

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    A schoolmate’s parent just died. Tested positive and got confined just a few days AFTER sinovac second dose. Senior. Heart attack while confined. I dont know if with comorbidity. Sad.

    Does not diminish my faith in sinovac or any other vaccine tho. Just received my second dose last week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dcph172 View Post
    A schoolmate’s parent just died. Tested positive and got confined just a few days AFTER sinovac second dose. Senior. Heart attack while confined. I dont know if with comorbidity. Sad.

    Does not diminish my faith in sinovac or any other vaccine tho. Just received my second dose last week.


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    what?!?! I hope the parent did not get the virus at the vaccination site I've been reading about those who RECOVERED from sinovac and suffer a heart attack pa. It seems like sinovac offers very little protection. I am so tired of wearing face mask at home. If only we had Pfizer

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    what?!?! I hope the parent did not get the virus at the vaccination site [emoji20] I've been reading about those who RECOVERED from sinovac and suffer a heart attack pa. It seems like sinovac offers very little protection. I am so tired of wearing face mask at home. If only we had Pfizer
    I hope not. Dead less than a week since receiving second dose.

    Hoping the data showing 96% protection 15 days after second dose is true.

    I have moderna order from private sector via a friend. I hope by the time it arrives there are guidelines if we’re able to use it as “booster” shot / third shot and “add” it with my two previous shots of sinovac.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dcph172 View Post
    I hope not. Dead less than a week since receiving second dose.

    Hoping the data showing 96% protection 15 days after second dose is true.

    I have moderna order from private sector via a friend. I hope by the time it arrives there are guidelines if we’re able to use it as “booster” shot / third shot and “add” it with my two previous shots of sinovac.


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    this is solid proof that there is practically zero protection from the first dose I haven't heard na because I signed our family up for Novavax. I hope there is also a way for me to order pfizer or moderna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    this is solid proof that there is practically zero protection from the first dose I haven't heard na because I signed our family up for Novavax. I hope there is also a way for me to order pfizer or moderna.
    Pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by dcph172 View Post
    A schoolmate’s parent just died. Tested positive and got confined just a few days AFTER sinovac second dose. Senior. Heart attack while confined. I dont know if with comorbidity. Sad.

    Does not diminish my faith in sinovac or any other vaccine tho. Just received my second dose last week.


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    folks die of heart attack all the time, even before covid and sinovac.
    is it a convenience that we have covid and sinovac and the other vaccines, to blame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    this is solid proof that there is practically zero protection from the first dose I haven't heard na because I signed our family up for Novavax. I hope there is also a way for me to order pfizer or moderna.
    ... one example is solid proof?

    the chilean experience, based on ten million folks, suggests only 16% protection after the first dose.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 8th, 2021 at 07:45 AM.

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    #27678
    Quote Originally Posted by dcph172 View Post
    Pm

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    thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ... one example is solid proof?

    the chilean experience, based on ten million folks, suggests only 16% protection after the first dose.
    16% is practically zero to me

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    #27679
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post



    16% is practically zero to me
    for a person who used to work in finance-related industry,
    this is a very strange opinion.
    but one is entitled to it.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 8th, 2021 at 09:15 AM.

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    #27680
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    for a person who used to work in finance-related industry,
    this is a very strange opinion.
    but one is entitled to it.
    But we're not talking finances here, we're talking health and IMO 16% is extremely low that I consider it as zero protection. My risk appetite is averse so I am being consistent

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