China Corona Virus Outbreak

[dr. d]

Not as noisy but, there still is. They claim there are a lot of doctors who take it themselves or used it when they were sick. These are all “I just heard” but on your end, are there some you know who claim it works?


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"wala pa naman ang umamin saken."
but then, my circle of friends may not necessarily be the same circle of friends of someones else.

but hey!
yesteryear's gayuma has evolved.
they now have this shiney pendant-like gadget that generates ozone...
and i have this masque with its external filtered-air blower with connecting ribbed plastic tubing under my ace hardware black welding visor, making me look like darth vader...
where is my black graduation toga, to complete the image...?
heh heh.

[shadow]

I'm worried of surge in the next 2 months, I think the prudent thing to do is keep our quarantine as it is at least for the next 2 months until we can inoculate suffcient number of the A4 group.

For me this is the most important group if we want to move forward and get out of this pandemic.

Tutal sabi naman nila babaha na daw ng vaccines ngayon June onwards.

Pag nagka surge nanaman dahil nagmadal silang nag eased ng restriction, mahahati pa yun attention natin instead na concentrate na tayo sa pag bakuna eh kailangan nanaman yun resources and manpower mapunta sa mga ma hospital.

Tutal maluwag naman ngaykn itong classification natin. Mga gyms and indoors activities dapat bawal pa talaga. Masyado tayo nagmamadali.

Grabe kokonti pa lang nabakunahan tapos mag ease na agad ng restrictions

Bakit ba kasi natin gusto sumabay sa ibang bansa na nag eased ng restriction dahil mababa na talaga cases nila or madami na sila nabakunahan, and we're netiehe of those.

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[H1Tman]

and what did that study conclude, i wonder?
did they take into account, the indian activities?

No conclusion yet. I think the doctors doing the study said they will announce the results before the year ends.


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[bloowolf]

"wala pa naman ang umamin saken."
but then, my circle of friends may not necessarily be the same circle of friends of someones else.
kilala ko naman that bone guy, but he is not in my circle of friends.

I know someone from his batch in PGH INTARMED. Heard the are pissed at him now for maligning the other doctors. What turned me off with him was he claiming, in an interview, that he knows more than Infectious Disease docs with regards to Covid because he studied it for a few months. That isn’t even his core competency.


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[dr. d]

No conclusion yet. I think the doctors doing the study said they will announce the results before the year ends.


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tongue-in-check,
"yes, they should not rush things, lest they make rash decisions."
heh heh.

[dr. d]

I know someone from his batch in PGH INTARMED. Heard the are pissed at him now for maligning the other doctors. What turned me off with him was he claiming, in an interview, that he knows more than Infectious Disease docs with regards to Covid because he studied it for a few months. That isn’t even his core competency.


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the infectious disease experts were on it from the start. they worked glove-in-glove with the virus folks and the immune folks.
not just covid, but the infectious disease folks lived and breathed it for at least two years.
the medical profession, is just like the rest of humanity.
there are the good, and there are the good-er...

[bloowolf]

the medical profession, is just like the rest of humanity.
there are the good, and there are the good-er...

Yes, I understand that. Tao lang….


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[shadow]

UK PM voices ‘serious concern’ over Delta variant in hint at delay to lockdown end | Inquirer News


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[vinrem]

Is it true what they say that if mag positive ka sa covid ay you have 90 days immunity??? Or tsisimis lang yan.

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[dr. d]

Is it true what they say that if mag positive ka sa covid ay you have 90 days immunity??? Or tsisimis lang yan.

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hard to say, right now.
it takes many years of follow-up evaluation and testing, to come up with that kind of positive or negative conclusion.
some published shorter-term studies indicate up to 8 months of relative immunity...

my colleague got covid twice.
the second one, within 4 months of the last.

and to further the confusion,
new variants with varying immunologic markings, are cropping up...

i guess the take-home message is,
"you may be blessed, even if only temporary, but don't move about as if you are truly immune."

[Monseratto]

UK PM voices ‘serious concern’ over Delta variant in hint at delay to lockdown end | Inquirer News


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Delta Variant makes up 90% of cases in UK... including some who are fully vaccinated. Majority of those vaccinated are on AZN vaccines and Pfizer-Biotech... 42 percent of UK population are considered fully vaccinated. No explanation if cases and deaths have other comorbidities.

Delta variant causes more than 9% of new Covid cases in UK | Coronavirus | The Guardian

Dr Jenny Harries, the chief executive of the UK Health Security Agency, urged people eligible for vaccination to come forward to receive the jab.

“With numbers of Delta variant cases on the rise across the country, vaccination is our best defence,” she said, noting two doses providef significantly more protection than a single dose. “However, while vaccination reduces the risk of severe disease, it does not eliminate it,” she added.

That is backed up by the data. According to the report, since the start of February to 7 June, there were 33,206 Delta cases in England: while 19,573 were in unvaccinated individuals, 1,785 were among fully vaccinated people and 7,559 were among those who had received one jab, with the vaccination status of the remainder unclear.

Of the 42 deaths recorded in England within 28 days of a positive test involving the Delta variant, 23 were in unvaccinated people, with 12 among those who were fully vaccinated and seven among people who had had one dose.

[Monseratto]

Expect more AZN "donations" to poorer countries...

Italy halts AstraZeneca vaccine for under-6s | Reuters

The Italian government said on Friday it was restricting the use of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine to people over the age of 60, after a teenager who had received the shot died from a rare form of blood clotting.

Camilla Canepa died on Thursday aged 18 after being given the vaccine on May 25, triggering a media and political outcry over the Anglo-Swedish company's shot being used for adults of all ages despite previously-raised medical concerns.

"AstraZeneca will only be used for people over 60," the country's special COVID commissioner Francesco Figliuolo told reporters.

People under the age of 60 who have received a first dose of AstraZeneca should be given a different vaccine for the second dose, the government's chief medical adviser Franco Locatelli said at the same news conference.


"The risk-benefit assessment has changed," Locatelli said, without mentioning the death of Canepa, who suffered from a low platelet count, brain haemorrhage and abdominal blood clots.

AstraZeneca was not immediately available to comment.

[Monseratto]

Other symptoms of the Indian variant...

Gangrene, Hearing Loss Show Delta Variant May Be More Severe

The coronavirus variant driving India’s devastating Covid-19 second wave is the most infectious to emerge so far. Doctors now want to know if it’s also more severe.

Hearing impairment, severe gastric upsets and blood clots leading to gangrene, symptoms not typically seen in Covid patients, have been linked by doctors in India to the so-called delta variant. In England and Scotland, early evidence suggests the strain -- which is also now dominant there -- carries a higher risk of hospitalization.

Delta, also known as B.1.617.2, has spread to more than 60 countries over the past six months and triggered travel curbs from Australia to the U.S. A spike in infections, fueled by the variant, has forced U.K. to reconsider its plans for reopening later this month, with a local report saying it may be pushed back by two weeks. Singapore found that the mutation accounted for 95% of the local Covid samples linked to variants of concern. Higher rates of transmission and a reduction in the effectiveness of vaccines have made understanding the strain’s effects especially critical.

Stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, hearing loss and joint pain are among the ailments Covid patients are experiencing, according to six doctors treating patients across India. The beta and gamma variants -- first detected in South Africa and Brazil respectively -- have shown little or no evidence of triggering unusual clinical signs, according to a study by researchers from the University of New South Wales last month.

Some patients develop micro thrombi, or small blood clots, so severe that they led affected tissue to die and develop gangrene, said Ganesh Manudhane, a Mumbai cardiologist, who has treated eight patients for thrombotic complications at the Seven Hills Hospital during the past two months. Two required amputations of fingers or a foot.

“I saw three-to-four cases the whole of last year, and now it’s one patient a week,” Manudhane said.

Doctors are also finding instances of clots forming in blood vessels that supply the intestines, causing patients to experience stomach pain -- their only symptom, local media have reported.

Even as India’s outbreak begins to ease -- daily infections have slipped to less than a quarter of the May 7 peak -- the delta variant is sparking outbreaks elsewhere, including hitherto virus havens such as Taiwan, Singapore and Vietnam, bolstering calls for mass immunization.

[BratPAQ]

Meron ba mega vaccination site sa QC? Hindi ko na ma hintay itong Bacoor, a3 ako, nasa a4 na NCR, hanggang ngayon wala pa ko schedule.

Pwede naman ako sa QC dahil dun work ko?

[Dr.Kamiya]

i think it was personal gain masquerading as public service.
they should have done pre-registration, and only those who made it to the cut-off be allowed to fall in line.
huwag nang pa-asahin at pagurin yung wala naman talagang pag-asa.

but that's just me.

Which is why I said they should have been more transparent. Something like "we are vaccinating our workers, but if there are shots left after the public is welcome to them".

IMO tama lang and this follows the schedule. We are supposed to be vaccinating A4 now, which the mall workers legitimately fall under.

The walk-ins will be in class B or C at best if they didn't qualify for A1/A2/A3 before, so there is valid justification in giving it to the mall employees before them.


Vaccination at Eastwood:

[ale828]

Meron ba mega vaccination site sa QC? Hindi ko na ma hintay itong Bacoor, a3 ako, nasa a4 na NCR, hanggang ngayon wala pa ko schedule.

Pwede naman ako sa QC dahil dun work ko?

Araneta coliseum. Plus i think a lot of the malls are also being used by QC as vac sites.

[Monseratto]

In the US, Private Hospitals can suspend and fire Health workers who refuse to be vaccinated...for now.

In first federal ruling on vaccine mandates, judge sides with Houston hospital, dismissing claims from staff resisters

HOUSTON – In the first federal ruling on vaccine mandates, a Houston judge Saturday dismissed a lawsuit by hospital employees who declined the COVID-19 shot – a decision that could have a ripple effect across the nation.

The case involved Houston Methodist, which was the first hospital system in the country to require that all its employees get vaccinated. U.S. District Judge Lynn N. Hughes said federal law does not prevent employers from issuing that mandate.

[bloowolf]

In the US, Private Hospitals can suspend and fire Health workers who refuse to be vaccinated...for now.

In first federal ruling on vaccine mandates, judge sides with Houston hospital, dismissing claims from staff resisters

I agree with that though I’m not too sure how it’ll work out here. The unvaxxed are the vulnerable ones & it will not be economical for companies to pay for treatment of a peventable disease, right?


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[dr. d]

it may make a difference,
if the institution that requires it,
also handles the financial and logistical requirements.

[Athrunzala]

Exercise Caution