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    #27401
    May mga ofw daw na pinagbabayad sa Saudi for quarantine cost kasi hindi kasali sa western vax ang bakuna nila.

    Ang solusyon ng gobyerno, stop flights of ofws to Saudi today. As in, ura-urada na naman. Naka-check in na hindi pa pinasakay. Hay naku playing hero, palpak naman.


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    this is not even news

    we know b117 and b1351 are dominant already

    baka kumakalat na ang indian variant (b1617 and b1617.2)

    WHO sees community transmission of UK, South Africa COVID-19 variants in NCR Plus
    There is now a community transmission of the UK and South Africa variants of the COVID-19 virus in the National Capital Region Plus bubble, the top World Health Organization official in the Philippines has said.

    Dr. Rabindra Abeyasinghe, the WHO representative in the country, said that there was reason to believe that there was community transmission of the two variants of concern in the NCR Plus based on evidence and the number of cases.

    “In some locations of the Philippines, we will have to accept that there is community level transmission of these variants, the B117 and B1351,” Abeyasinghe told GMA News.

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    Lisa Shaw: Vaccine role in BBC presenter'''s death to be probed - BBC News


    Lisa Shaw: Vaccine role in BBC presenter's death to be probed

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    #27404
    Quote Originally Posted by H1Tman View Post
    May mga ofw daw na pinagbabayad sa Saudi for quarantine cost kasi hindi kasali sa western vax ang bakuna nila.

    Ang solusyon ng gobyerno, stop flights of ofws to Saudi today. As in, ura-urada na naman. Naka-check in na hindi pa pinasakay. Hay naku playing hero, palpak naman.


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    And it was expensive for PAL na lugi na nga dahil walang pasabi itong gaging dutiti govt.

    They still have to fly the plane to Saudi without passengers.


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    #27405
    Quote Originally Posted by H1Tman View Post
    May mga ofw daw na pinagbabayad sa Saudi for quarantine cost kasi hindi kasali sa western vax ang bakuna nila.

    Ang solusyon ng gobyerno, stop flights of ofws to Saudi today. As in, ura-urada na naman. Naka-check in na hindi pa pinasakay. Hay naku playing hero, palpak naman.


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    Mas maganda sana sagutin muna ng PH gov't tapos bayaran lang unti-unti ng OFW if mga low-income or first timer na bumiyahe.

    Yung medyo may magandang sahod, kaya na nila yan. Though pwede pa din hulugan para kahit papano eh nakatulong pa din gov't, if gusto nung IFW na hulugan.

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    #27406
    Kalokohan talaga. So DOH and IATF is now looking into the possibility of lifting face mask mandate sa mga complete na vaccination.

    Ayaw talaga patalo ng Pilipinas sa ibang bansa noh?

    Yun mga vacc card sobrang bilis i-fake ni walang safety features, hinde ma validate kung legit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Mas maganda sana sagutin muna ng PH gov't tapos bayaran lang unti-unti ng OFW if mga low-income or first timer na bumiyahe.

    Yung medyo may magandang sahod, kaya na nila yan. Though pwede pa din hulugan para kahit papano eh nakatulong pa din gov't, if gusto nung IFW na hulugan.
    Yun nga eh, kabuhayan nila yun. Hindi pinaalis. Hirap na hirap na nga ung mga tao na walang trabaho, nung paalis na pinigil pa. Ewan ko ba pano mag-isip mga tao sa gobyerno.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Kalokohan talaga. So DOH and IATF is now looking into the possibility of lifting face mask mandate sa mga complete na vaccination.

    Ayaw talaga patalo ng Pilipinas sa ibang bansa noh?

    Yun mga vacc card sobrang bilis i-fake ni walang safety features, hinde ma validate kung legit.


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    Bakit kaya pinag iisipan pa nila e mababa nga ang efficacy ng Coronavac.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56731801

    A study published by the University of Chile last week (in Spanish) looked at the level of protection the vaccine offered after the first and the second doses.

    It suggested CoronaVac was 56.5% effective in protecting people against infection two weeks after they had received their second dose, but the figure was only 3% in the timespan between the first and second doses.

    This may give a key clue as to why cases may still be on the rise in Chile, where more than 7.6 million people have received the first jab, but the number of those who have had both the first and second doses is much lower.
    According to the study 43.5% of fully vaccinated people can still transmit the disease. Buti sana kung 100% ng Pinoy nabakunahan na.

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    #27409
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Bakit kaya pinag iisipan pa nila e mababa nga ang efficacy ng Coronavac.

    Chile sees Covid surge despite vaccination success - BBC News



    According to the study 43.5% of fully vaccinated people can still transmit the disease. Buti sana kung 100% ng Pinoy nabakunahan na.
    Kaya nga eh. Not the right time para alisin na yun mask. Eh konti pa lang nabakunahan. Ayaw patalo. Philippines numbaone!


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    #27410
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Kalokohan talaga. So DOH and IATF is now looking into the possibility of lifting face mask mandate sa mga complete na vaccination.

    Ayaw talaga patalo ng Pilipinas sa ibang bansa noh?

    Yun mga vacc card sobrang bilis i-fake ni walang safety features, hinde ma validate kung legit.


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    Meron naman database yan pero nasa LGU ang database, at may QR code sa ID. Pero as you said madali ma fake yan. At pano na pag galing sa katabi City eh wala sa database nila. Parang staysafe app lang yan. One year na watak watak pa rin ang gamit.

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    #27411
    Hindi talaga pwede tanggalin mask dahil majority ng pinoy naka china vaccine and it's only mRNA vaccines where the person, as bloowolf has mentioned, becomes a dead host or NON contagious.

    Napaka TANGA TANGA TANGA talaga! We are NOT like the US that used mRNA exclusively! Sheesh they should NOT even think about suggesting that, so many pinoys are itching to remove their masks and this will only make things worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Hindi talaga pwede tanggalin mask dahil majority ng pinoy naka china vaccine and it's only mRNA vaccines where the person, as bloowolf has mentioned, becomes a dead host or NON contagious.

    Napaka TANGA TANGA TANGA talaga! We are NOT like the US that used mRNA exclusively! Sheesh they should NOT even think about suggesting that, so many pinoys are itching to remove their masks and this will only make things worse
    I read somewhere that the CDC considers that herd immunity has been attained if 70% of the population has been vaxxed, irregardless of the type. That is the only time masks can be shed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    I read somewhere that the CDC considers that herd immunity has been attained if 70% of the population has been vaxxed, irregardless of the type. That is the only time masks can be shed.


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    We are not even at 1% so that is a long long way to go. Too early to remove masks now.

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    #27415
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Hindi talaga pwede tanggalin mask dahil majority ng pinoy naka china vaccine and it's only mRNA vaccines where the person, as bloowolf has mentioned, becomes a dead host or NON contagious.

    Napaka TANGA TANGA TANGA talaga! We are NOT like the US that used mRNA exclusively! Sheesh they should NOT even think about suggesting that, so many pinoys are itching to remove their masks and this will only make things worse
    Kahit China vaccine basta majority nabakunahan na ok lang yun but as of now hinde pa talaga pwede.


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    #27416
    Minamadali ung pagbukas ng economy pero ayaw madaliin ang pagbabakuna. Hay naku![emoji2359]


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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Meron naman database yan pero nasa LGU ang database, at may QR code sa ID. Pero as you said madali ma fake yan. At pano na pag galing sa katabi City eh wala sa database nila. Parang staysafe app lang yan. One year na watak watak pa rin ang gamit.
    Not all Vaccination cards in the different cities have the QR code. yung iba wala and my QR from Makati only reveals the name wala yung details ng vaccine type, date and location.
    madali din talaga ma fake nung mga vaccine cards.
    Until ma centralize ng gov't yung database nila mahirap mga gusto nila gawin.
    parang mahina magisip ang DOH.

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    #27418
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    Not all Vaccination cards in the different cities have the QR code. yung iba wala and my QR from Makati only reveals the name wala yung details ng vaccine type, date and location.
    madali din talaga ma fake nung mga vaccine cards.
    Until ma centralize ng gov't yung database nila mahirap mga gusto nila gawin.
    parang mahina magisip ang DOH.
    National govt dapat maglabas ng vaccination card. Magulo kung pabayaan nila sa LGU, dapat uniform and meron safety features. Maglagay na sila ng budget for that eventuality saka kung si on mag issue ng isang uniform na vacc card.

    Maganda nga integrate na lang nila sa staysafe app eh since andyan infrastructure niya para digitalized na and you can't please everybody marami nanaman magsabi na hinde lahat meron data, hinde lahat naka smartphone, paano na mga seniors. Well mag adapt sila, the world will not stop spinning just for them.


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    Last edited by shadow; May 28th, 2021 at 09:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    National govt dapat maglabas ng vaccination card. Magulo kung pabayaan nila sa LGU, dapat uniform and meron safety features. Maglagay na sila ng budget for that eventuality saka kung si on mag issue ng isang uniform na vacc card.

    Maganda nga integrate na lang nila sa staysafe app eh since andyan infrastructure niya para digitalized na and you can't please everybody marami nanaman magsabi na hinde lahat meron data, hinde lahat naka smartphone, paano na mga seniors. Well mag adapt sila, the world will not stop spinning just for them.


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    Hindi applicable Staysafe app in all cities outside the NCR


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    Good real world results naman ang Sinovac sa Chile and Indonesia!
    Up to 94% effectiveness preventing symptomatic disease and up to 100% preventing death.


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