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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    ....what’s preposterous is, a lot of people believe them! My friends in the US say, there are a lot of ignorant & stupid Americans to believe all that crap. Here in the Philippines, antivaxxers are more toned down. Its more of the rights thing & being experimented on by the profiteering big pharmas. I asked one of them, what would happen if the pharmas waited the prescribed 5 year period? 50% will either be dead, dying or poor? He said there is a more effective & proven alternative medicines. You most likely know what he’s referring to.


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    Kung galing yung resistance sa 3rd World country, baka maintindihan pa. I have this European friend who is a conspiracy-nut who goes to the point of even calling me in the middle of the night to persuade me to stop my parents from getting the vaccine. He's also a Trumpist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ... the same altrernative medicines that the indians in india are using?
    is that why they are still dying in unprecedented droves over there?
    Now they’re saying that since the Indian DOH started distributing the drug, cases have markedly declined. They even have graphs to prove it. As to the source of those infos, what I can say is, they’re from these life or health sites.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Kung galing yung resistance sa 3rd World country, baka maintindihan pa. I have this European friend who is a conspiracy-nut who goes to the point of even calling me in the middle of the night to persuade me to stop my parents from getting the vaccine. He's also a Trumpist.
    You know what, these people I know also are Trumpists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ... the same altrernative medicines that the indians in india are using?
    is that why they are still dying in unprecedented droves over there?

    when rightwing nuts say there's no need for vaccine coz there's effective and affordable treatment -- they're referring to ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    You know what, these people I know also are Trumpists.


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    pareho lang paniniwala ng mga trumpist and antivaxxers and other conspiracy theorists

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    #27446
    EMA logs more clotting cases after AstraZeneca shot, death rate lower | Reuters

    A total of 316 cases of rare blood clots with low platelets have been recorded in adults who received AstraZeneca's (AZN.L) COVID-19 vaccine in the European Economic Area, an executive of the region's drug regulator said.

    The figure as of Thursday includes 174 new reports since the European Medicines Agency (EMA) provided an update in April, Georgy Genov, the chief of the watchdog's safety monitoring operations, said during a briefing on Friday.

    The EMA has been looking into cases of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) since March and has found a possible link to the vaccine developed with Oxford University, Vaxzevria, and to Johnson & Johnson's (JNJ.N) single-dose shot. read more

    It has, however, maintained that overall benefits of both the vaccines outweigh any risks posed by them.

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    BBC radio presenter died after suffering blood clots, family says-ITV

    An award-winning BBC Radio Newcastle presenter died in hospital after suffering blood clots after she received the AstraZeneca vaccine, her family has said.

    Lisa Shaw developed "severe" headaches a week after having the jab and fell seriously ill a few days later, relatives said in a statement.

    The 44-year-old died at the Royal Victoria Infirmary on Friday afternoon (21 May) having been treated in intensive care for blood clots and bleeding.

    People under 40 in the UK are being offered an alternative to the AstraZeneca vaccine following reports of extremely rare blood clots on the brain coupled with low blood platelet count.

    The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) had said the benefits of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine continue to outweigh risks for most people. It has not proven the vaccine causes the clots but has said the link is getting firmer.
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    COVID-19 vaccination – Weighing up the potential benefits against risk of harm from COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca | Australian Government Department of Health

    FWIW there seems to be little to no clotting issue for Asians yet so maybe genetics play a factor? As suggested by a doctor whose name I can't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    ^
    COVID-19 vaccination – Weighing up the potential benefits against risk of harm from COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca | Australian Government Department of Health

    FWIW there seems to be little to no clotting issue for Asians yet so maybe genetics play a factor? As suggested by a doctor whose name I can't remember.
    the quoted literature quoted a literal one in a million mortality rate from clotting.
    that means, if we use it in 10,000,000 citizens,
    we should expect up to 10 vaccinateds to succumb...
    sounds good... unless we are among them.

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    #27450
    Vietnam detects hybrid UK/Indian variant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    the quoted literature quoted a literal one in a million mortality rate from clotting.
    that means, if we use it in 10,000,000 citizens,
    we should expect up to 10 vaccinateds to succumb...
    sounds good... unless we are among them.
    Stats seem to show that younger and young(ish) women are more susceptible doc. What I'd like to know is if there are any Asian cases. We don't seem to be getting reports of clotting in our side of the world.

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    Is the Washington Post credible? This article points to the fact that the Sars cov2 may have been deliberately unreported so as to make it a bio weapon.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...came-credible/


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    Philippines detects 242 new cases of coronavirus variants of concern | Philstar.com

    "The Department of Health announced Saturday that health authorities have detected a total of 242 new cases of various coronavirus variants classified as variants of concern.

    Of these, 137 are new cases of the variant first identified in South Africa (B.1.351), while 104 are new cases of the variant first identified in the United Kingdom (B.1.1.7), and one is a new case of the variant first identified in India (B.1.617)."

    Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS

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    #27454
    lab leak theory mas sineseryoso lately

    dati pa naman alam the US NIH funded gain-of-function research in wuhan -- to make bat coronaviruses infect humans more easily

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    #27455
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Is the Washington Post credible? This article points to the fact that the Sars cov2 may have been deliberately unreported so as to make it a bio weapon.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...came-credible/


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    The Washington Post is credible but it is owner by Amazon's Jeff Bezoz

    Its higher than CNN but lower an AP Reuters in the media bias chart


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    #27456
    January last year pa ung lab leak theory



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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    lab leak theory mas sineseryoso lately

    dati pa naman alam the US NIH funded gain-of-function research in wuhan -- to make bat coronaviruses infect humans more easily


    oo nga eh, patay si Dr. Fauci nito

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    January last year pa ung lab leak theory


    Yes, the lab leak theory has been floating around but the anti Chinese sentiment attached to it doesn’t lend much credence to the story. But, they couldn’t seem to discard the theory just yet. The more they investigate, even if they train their eyes away from the Wuhan lab, it seem like it just brings them back to it. China’s secretive nature & resistance to compliance just adds to the suspicion.


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    Dr. Fauci is now going for your kids, he says as young as 6 months old should get the needle!

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    Vietnam discovers new hybrid Covid variant, state media reports

    “After running gene sequencing on newly detected patients, we have discovered a new variant that is a mix of India and UK ones,” Nguyen Thanh Long was quoted as saying.

    “More specifically, it is an Indian variant with mutations that originally belong to the UK variant,” he said.

    “The characteristic of this strain is that it spreads quickly in the air. The concentration of virus in the throat fluid increases rapidly and spreads very strongly to the surrounding environment.”

    He did not specify the number of cases recorded with this new variant but said Vietnam would soon announce the discovery in the world’s map of genetic strains.

    There were seven known coronavirus variants in Vietnam before Long’s announcement, according to the Ministry of Health.
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