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    #27481
    Mom had her second dose on Friday, I asked her if she had any side effects and she said none whatsoever, "baka tubig ininject sa kanya" I burst out laughing kasi mag nanay nga kami I never mentioned to her my thoughts about china vaccine being saline because I did not want to discourage her from taking the vaccine. She's still blaming me for pressuring her to take the vaccine e I told her lottery naman ang vaccines, what if she gets AZ? We would rather have sinovac than AZ

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    #27482
    sorry if this was already posted before...


    Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines - YouTube

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    #27483

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    #27484
    Masyado nagmamadali ibang tao sa govt to ease restrictions sa mga vaccinated people, masyado pa maaga for that, konti pa lang nabakunahan. Ayaw kasi patalo sa ibang bansa na nag mask less na.


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    #27485
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Masyado nagmamadali ibang tao sa govt to ease restrictions sa mga vaccinated people, masyado pa maaga for that, konti pa lang nabakunahan. Ayaw kasi patalo sa ibang bansa na nag mask less na.


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    unahin muna nila tanggalin yun face shield

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    #27486
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    unahin muna nila tanggalin yun face shield
    tama. mas gusto ko pa nga na goggles na lang kesa face shield, parang mas may protection kasi ang goggles sa droplets kesa sa shield.

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    #27487
    Quote Originally Posted by tsupermario View Post
    sorry if this was already posted before...


    Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines - YouTube
    That's simplistic IMO. The different COVID vaccines may never have been in one single study that will give directly comparable numbers, but you absolutely can compare real-world results from countries with high vaccination rates using Pfizer and Sinovac.

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    #27488
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    unahin muna nila tanggalin yun face shield
    I am one of the assh0les who use the face shield as a headband. I am super paranoid pero sa face shield wala ako paniniwala. Naka double mask naman ako and I wear glasses so my eyes are somewhat protected

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    #27489
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    unahin muna nila tanggalin yun face shield
    It will be hard to remove face shield from the market as it is controlled by the wife of one of the top government official.

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    #27490
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I am one of the assh0les who use the face shield as a headband. I am super paranoid pero sa face shield wala ako paniniwala. Naka double mask naman ako and I wear glasses so my eyes are somewhat protected
    ako din inaangat ko talaga faceshield. pag pinababa ng guard, iaangat ko ulit pag lagpas haha

    wala talagang kuwenta to for display lang

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    #27491
    Quote Originally Posted by tarzegetakizerd View Post
    ako din inaangat ko talaga faceshield. pag pinababa ng guard, iaangat ko ulit pag lagpas haha

    wala talagang kuwenta to for display lang
    Exactly hahaha! May iba nga hindi na naninita

    Napansin ko pala mga establishments hindi na strict sa contact tracing form. I've been to a mercury tuloy tuloy lang ako pumasok

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    #27492
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Exactly hahaha! May iba nga hindi na naninita

    Napansin ko pala mga establishments hindi na strict sa contact tracing form. I've been to a mercury tuloy tuloy lang ako pumasok

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    yung mercury malapit sa office namin sa valero, hanggang ngayon eh sulat pa din sa papel yung contact tracing.

    buti pa sa amin sa antipolo, meron Antipolo Bantay Covid-19 QR app, na accept din sa Pasig and Valenzuela.

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    #27493
    First batch of private sector-procured AstraZeneca vaccines arriving late, says adviser | ABS-CBN News

    Delayed ulit yung AZN ng private sector.
    Paano na kaya yung mga binili ng LGU?

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    #27494
    Mamaya na yata sa comedy hour malalaman kung anong "Q" tayo until the end of June.

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    #27495
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    That's simplistic IMO. The different COVID vaccines may never have been in one single study that will give directly comparable numbers, but you absolutely can compare real-world results from countries with high vaccination rates using Pfizer and Sinovac.
    I agree. In any medicine, not just vax, results from the battle ground are the numbers that really matter. So far, the statistical results of all the vax are looking pretty good. But the next big question is, when will the boosters be given? I fear that given the positive outlook with the vax, the people & the gov’t will start to feel relaxed but vax immunity naturally goes down. When? No one knows.


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    #27496
    Mass vaccination creates healthy oasis in Brazilian city

    SAO PAULO, May 30 (Reuters) - Serrana, a city in southeastern Brazilian state of Sao Paulo, has seen a 95% drop in COVID-19 deaths after it concluded vaccination of almost all adults, TV Globo reported on Sunday.
    Serrana was the subject of a study by Instituto Butantan, which produces the Coronavac vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech in Brazil.

    When vaccination was starting, the city had an increase in COVID cases, but the spread of the virus was contained once 75% of the population was immunized, scientists found.

    Scientists divided the city in four areas to try to understand which was the threshold to contain the spread of the virus and found that it was controlled after three areas received the second dose.
    Sinovac!

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    #27497
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    I agree. In any medicine, not just vax, results from the battle ground are the numbers that really matter. So far, the statistical results of all the vax are looking pretty good. But the next big question is, when will the boosters be given? I fear that given the positive outlook with the vax, the people & the gov’t will start to feel relaxed but vax immunity naturally goes down. When? No one knows.


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    As long as payagan na nilang ibenta then we don't need to wait for this inutile govt for our booster shots.


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    #27498
    Study on Face Shields as used by health workers going to houses of known positive cases in India:

    SARS-CoV-2 Infection Among Community Health Workers in India Before and After Use of Face Shields | Global Health | JAMA | JAMA Network

    IMO this was one of those accidentally good things our gov't did because we went into it blind, and later on studies confirmed it was effective.

    Methods

    Beginning May 3, 2020, community health workers from a research network in Chennai, India, were assigned to counsel asymptomatic family contacts of patients who had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 at their residence. The workers were housed in separate rooms of hostels and provided food; they did not visit their homes or public places outside work. Prework training was done with no more than 3 persons attending any session. Workers communicated with each other by phone. All workers’ nasopharyngeal swabs taken on May 1, 2020, tested negative for SARS-CoV-2 by reverse transcriptase–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR).

    Each worker traveled in a small van with a steel partition to prevent air exchange between the driver and back cabin where the worker sat. Workers maintained constant masking and social distancing when interacting with the driver. Personal protective equipment included alcohol hand rub, 3-layered surgical masks, gloves, and shoe covers. Family members assembled in the front room of each house, and the worker, standing 6 ft away, explained the principles of quarantine, mask use, social distancing, handwashing, and symptoms of SARS-CoV-2 illness. Family members were asked to wear face masks during the conversation, although workers reported that some did not.

    On May 16, 2 workers developed symptoms. The remaining 60 workers were monitored, and all workers were tested for SARS-CoV-2 by RT-PCR between May 16 and May 19, and home visits suspended. Contact tracing was conducted. On May 20, face shields made of polyethylene terephthalate (250-μm thickness) were added to the equipment provided. After each visit, the shield was decontaminated using alcohol-based solution, and at the end of the day, soaked in detergent mixed with water. After the introduction of face shields, workers were screened for symptoms and had RT-PCR tests performed weekly.

    Family members in the visited homes were followed up for symptoms by daily phone contact with the worker. For symptomatic members, the need for testing was conveyed to local public health officials who subsequently shared the test results with workers. We obtained the number of positive test results in visited households to assess worker exposure.

    We compared the number of positive test results before (May 3-15) and after (May 20-June 30) the introduction of face shields. The ethics committee of the community research network exempted the study from review and waived the need for informed consent.

    Results

    Before face shields, 62 workers (40 women) visited 5880 homes with 31 164 persons. From the 5880 homes visited, 222 persons tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, between May 4 to May 13. Twelve workers (19%) were infected during this period. Eight developed symptoms (fever, cough, sore throat, myalgia, and anosmia) and 4 were asymptomatic. The 12 infected workers were moved to care centers. Four developed desaturation and mild breathing difficulty and were treated with oral hydroxychloroquine and oxygen therapy; all 4 recovered. Contact tracing of the workers who tested positive identified 14 van drivers, who were monitored. All were asymptomatic and tested negative between days 7 and 10 after contact with the workers.

    After face shield introduction, 50 workers (previously uninfected) continued to provide counseling, visiting 18 228 homes. Among the counseled 118 428 persons, 2682 subsequently tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. No worker developed asymptomatic or symptomatic infection.
    From 19% of workers getting infected after visiting 5,228 homes w/o face shield, to zero workers getting infected after visiting 18,228 homes w/ face shield.

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    This second study from the USA tested face shields vs simulated cough, measuring the number of particles coming into contact with the respirator (face mask).

    Efficacy of face shields against cough aerosol droplets from a cough simulator - PubMed

    During testing of an influenza-laden cough aerosol with a volume median diameter (VMD) of 8.5 μm, wearing a face shield reduced the inhalational exposure of the worker by 96% in the period immediately after a cough. The face shield also reduced the surface contamination of a respirator by 97%. When a smaller cough aerosol was used (VMD = 3.4 μm), the face shield was less effective, blocking only 68% of the cough and 76% of the surface contamination. In the period from 1 to 30 minutes after a cough, during which the aerosol had dispersed throughout the room and larger particles had settled, the face shield reduced aerosol inhalation by only 23%.

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    #27499
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    IMO this was one of those accidentally good things our gov't did because we went into it blind, and later on studies confirmed it was effective.

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    hindi naman.
    government was advised by expert witness.

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    #27500
    In hindsight, if COVID virus is airborne then faceshield can definitely prevent droplets and aerosols from travelling farther.

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