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    #2601
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    in medicine,
    if there are many theories,
    it only means,
    "we don't know."
    The most logical explanation indeed.

    If the US did it, bakit hinayaan nila umabot din sa bansa nila and they are even worried about its own spread there. Of course may sasabat dyan na siyempre para hindi masabi na hindi sila naapektuhan. Hindi obvious na guilty.

    If China did it, they just shot themselves at the foot with regards to their dream of becoming a world power. The negative impact of this would outweight anything positive for them. At least with how things are shaping up to be.

    SO in the end chismis.

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    First death from CoVid 19 infection in US of A....

    Washington state man becomes first U.S. death from coronavirus

    The person who died was a man in his 50s who had underlying health conditions, and there was no evidence he contracted the virus through travel, health officials said.
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    Last edited by Monseratto; March 1st, 2020 at 07:56 AM.

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    #2604
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    if you have to clean, use ordinary rubbing alcohol (70% alcohol solution). a more concentrated formulation or a less concentrated formulation diminishes the sanitizing ability.
    that 70% is not an accident nor a business decision. it was heavily researched on!
    baby wipes and such, are only for cleaning dirt. they are not designed for sanitizing.
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    #2605
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if you have to clean, use ordinary rubbing alcohol (70% alcohol solution). a more concentrated formulation or a less concentrated formulation diminishes the sanitizing ability.
    that 70% is not an accident nor a business decision. it was heavily researched on!
    baby wipes and such, are only for cleaning dirt. they are not designed for sanitizing.
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    #2606
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    First death from CoVid 19 infection in US of A....

    Washington state man becomes first U.S. death from coronavirus



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    50 and above talaga

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    #2607
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    The most logical explanation indeed.

    If the US did it, bakit hinayaan nila umabot din sa bansa nila and they are even worried about its own spread there. Of course may sasabat dyan na siyempre para hindi masabi na hindi sila naapektuhan. Hindi obvious na guilty.

    If China did it, they just shot themselves at the foot with regards to their dream of becoming a world power. The negative impact of this would outweight anything positive for them. At least with how things are shaping up to be.

    SO in the end chismis.

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    May bagong conspiracy theory jan. Ang virus yan na kinalat ng YT Biotech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    The most logical explanation indeed.

    If the US did it, bakit hinayaan nila umabot din sa bansa nila and they are even worried about its own spread there. Of course may sasabat dyan na siyempre para hindi masabi na hindi sila naapektuhan. Hindi obvious na guilty.

    If China did it, they just shot themselves at the foot with regards to their dream of becoming a world power. The negative impact of this would outweight anything positive for them. At least with how things are shaping up to be.

    SO in the end chismis.

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    here's another

    china has aging population

    govt cannot afford to take care of retirees

    to reduce burden they wipe out their elderly population (except those in power of course)

    short term pain for long term gain

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    here's another

    china has aging population

    govt cannot afford to take care of retirees

    to reduce burden they wipe out their elderly population (except those in power of course)

    short term pain for long term gain
    tama lang pala "hindi pahabaan ng buhay kundi pasayahan".[emoji12]

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    here's another

    china has aging population

    govt cannot afford to take care of retirees

    to reduce burden they wipe out their elderly population (except those in power of course)

    short term pain for long term gain
    As usual plausible kaso bakit hindi sa lahat ng province ng China?

    Bakit hindi dun sa poor areas since target naman eh yung bursen sa economy? Mas malaki bawas sa expenses kapag poor kasi wala naman contributions yun sa exonomy unlike the old and rich populace.

    I still think this is a problem with nature colliding with exotic human consumptions coupled with evolving viruses, most probably anthropogenic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    50 and above talaga
    Makes me wonder talaga bakit wala child deaths eh may video nga na 3 bata nilalagay sa bodybag.

    Could be that China knows that if tou report child death eh maa dramatic effect at ayaw nila mas magalit mga citizens nila of course. Bad trip na dagdagan mo pa ng ganyang bad news eh baka dissapointment/resentment will shift to a more problematic higher gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    As usual plausible kaso bakit hindi sa lahat ng province ng China?

    Bakit hindi dun sa poor areas since target naman eh yung bursen sa economy? Mas malaki bawas sa expenses kapag poor kasi wala naman contributions yun sa exonomy unlike the old and rich populace.

    I still think this is a problem with nature colliding with exotic human consumptions coupled with evolving viruses, most probably anthropogenic.

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    seriously i think this is probably a Malthusian correction (nature eliminates excess population using its own ways)

    the world is overdue for a Malthusian correction -- high density, pollution

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    seriously i think this is probably a Malthusian correction (nature eliminates excess population using its own ways)

    the world is overdue for a Malthusian correction -- high density, pollution
    Yes, could be. Kaya nga sabi ko probably nature vs anthropogenic factors which is human of course kaya parang sa economic principles of correction. Although this time it might not be a minor one if no vaccine nor cure gets invented on time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Makes me wonder talaga bakit wala child deaths eh may video nga na 3 bata nilalagay sa bodybag.

    Could be that China knows that if tou report child death eh maa dramatic effect at ayaw nila mas magalit mga citizens nila of course. Bad trip na dagdagan mo pa ng ganyang bad news eh baka dissapointment/resentment will shift to a more problematic higher gear.

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    kaya pneumonia is called "old man's friend" coz it ends the suffering of old people with other illnesses


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kaya pneumonia is called "old man's friend" coz it ends the suffering of old people with other illnesses

    I get it that it is indeed deadly for older people.

    It's just that there is still no report from China of children dying from covid-19 which is perplexing nga considering na may video. Was wondering if that video is not current, a rehash or of a different situation or cause.

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    ^^^

    we will never know

    can't trust china data kaya sabi ko we should look at data from other countries like SK, Singapore, Japan etc... coz they're unlikely to manage or manipulate data

    if they also show consistent numbers where deaths are age 50&up and no child deaths then tama nga yun

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    #2617
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    seriously i think this is probably a Malthusian correction (nature eliminates excess population using its own ways)

    the world is overdue for a Malthusian correction -- high density, pollution

    that we humans are actually the virus of this planet and viruses such as this wuhan corona virus is the planet's immune system anti-bodies that kills of the human virus.

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    Feeling ko talaga super influenza itong Wuhan virus. Puro matatanda eh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Feeling ko talaga super influenza itong Wuhan virus. Puro matatanda eh.


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    parang ganun na nga

    it's the kind of flu that will send you to the hospital specially if you're older and male

    pinaka dangerous para sa mga age 80+

    btw the pope is sick and he's 83

    not saying he got infected but he's in italy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    parang ganun na nga

    it's the kind of flu that will send you to the hospital specially if you're older and male

    pinaka dangerous para sa mga age 80+

    btw the pope is sick and he's 83

    not saying he got infected but he's in italy...
    And he got only 1 lung na lang pala.


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