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    #2401
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Oh by the way, if they did not mention the job description, don't you think readers would conclude the journalist / news outlet is "hiding" or "protecting" something? So I say, it's good they mentioned the job description. It's just part of their job to mention it. It's being responsible, IMO.
    they all work under one roof with four walls.
    mentioning that the person was the cook doing the chicken, now makes targetting that person a bit easier.
    i'll bet that were all the workers lined up against the wall now, none of them will confess to "cooking the chicken".

    "hey son! don't you go near our neighbor. she cooks chicken in that kfc joint..."

    my point.
    Last edited by dr. d; February 27th, 2020 at 11:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    they all work under one roof with four walls.
    mentioning that the person was the cook doing the chicken, now makes targetting that person a bit easier.
    Target for what? Target for whom? Will the secret police (of China) come knocking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    South Korea updates their CoVid situation twice a day. This morning's announcement is the highest number of new cases ever reported in S Korea. There is still an afternoon news release later...



    South Korea reports 334 additional coronavirus cases, raising total to 1,595 - CNA


    thing about SK is they're testing a lot of people

    if you wanna find new infections you WILL find them

    i'm sure other countries have as many or even more cases than SK (like Iran) it's just that they're not testing as much as SK

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    #2404
    and since SK reports new cases regularly sila ung nagmumukhang madami kaso

    if other countries report like SK, baka meron mas madami pa kaso kesa sa SK (ex-China)

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    #2405
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    and since SK reports new cases regularly sila ung nagmumukhang madami kaso

    if other countries report like SK, baka meron mas madami pa kaso kesa sa SK (ex-China)
    it's the spanish flu, all over again!
    the more other countries hide the info, the better it will spread.
    information-sharing, is a vital component to controlling the pandemic.

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    #2406
    China reporting lower numbers...

    China reports 29 more COVID-19 deaths, lowest since January - CNA


    BEIJING: China on Thursday (Feb 27) reported 29 more deaths from the COVID-19 epidemic, the lowest daily figure in almost a month.

    There were 433 new cases of infections as of Wednesday, up from 406 on the previous day.

    The World Health Organization says the outbreak in China peaked around Feb 2, after measures that included isolating Hubei.

    On Wednesday, the number of new COVID-19 cases inside China was for the first time overtaken by fresh cases elsewhere, with Italy and Iran emerging as epicentres of the rapidly spreading illness.

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    #2407
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    they all work under one roof with four walls.
    mentioning that the person was the cook doing the chicken, now makes targetting that person a bit easier.
    i'll bet that were all the workers lined up against the wall now, none of them will confess to "cooking the chicken".

    "hey son! don't you go near our neighbor. she cooks chicken in that kfc joint..."

    my point.
    No names were mentioned, so no bullseye target. There's still a layer of privacy.

    But some things we just have to live with. Right now lots of people are "afraid" of going near a Chinese, or anyone who looks Chinese. Why do you think that happened? Would it have been better if news outlets blacked out from the onset that the virus originated in China? That way Chinese won't be "easy targets"? Is that your point as well, sir?

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    this virus can't be contained

    it spreads too easily

    carriers often don't have symptoms or mild symptoms that they're able to work, travel, go around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The lower the numbers of infection, the earlier their factories can start production again. China is risking new "spreads' because all they think about is the money. Money money money. Economy first before the people. People are expendable. Economy is not. That's how the system works, and not just for China. Just look at Trump's pronouncements vs USA health officials' pronouncements. My money's on the health officials. Trump can burn.

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    #2410
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    thing about SK is they're testing a lot of people

    if you wanna find new infections you WILL find them

    i'm sure other countries have as many or even more cases than SK (like Iran) it's just that they're not testing as much as SK

    S Korea was given a list and they're going through it... And I think the cult gave their wholehearted support. Kaya puro cult members mga bagong cases.


    South Korea starts COVID-19 checks on more than 200, 000 sect members - CNA
    Last edited by Monseratto; February 27th, 2020 at 11:19 AM.

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    Di ko na alam paniniwalaan ko.. Tama ba ang mga ito about sa NCOV?
    1) mahahawa ka if na expose/contact sa laway or any human by-products
    2) mahina immune system
    3) nabubuhay daw ang virus sa mga objects na na expose/contact sa human by-products for several days (e.g. 7 days or more)..
    4) the only way to survive is trust your immune system to fight back the virus. Better not to take meds in case ma hospital with the flu? Like Dengue, drink water is one para di madehydrate at para ma-excrete ang virus?
    5) surgical/N95 masks won't help. It will just minimize the possibility of contact.

    Feel free po to correct and add..
    Based kasi sa experience ko sa airports I don't see the gravity of the situation.. Konti lang nagma-masks (not all, majority no masks).. Then sa Japan and Philippine airports I still see airport employees not wearing masks. Sa Philippines lang ako nakakita nung camera+monitor to check temperature but I don't know if effective sya to capture anyone with flu.

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    #2412
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    this virus can't be contained

    it spreads too easily

    carriers often don't have symptoms or mild symptoms that they're able to work, travel, go around
    That's why containment is a joke. It's like trusting the security guards at the mall can detect terrorists by frisking all the mall goers before they enter the premises. Yeah, right. It's nothing but a placebo.

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    #2413
    For those who still has a appetite for travel, or just needs to travel, PAL advisory below --



    "PAL’S HEALTH AND SAFETY MEASURES

    Philippine Airlines·Tuesday, February 25, 2020·Reading time: 3 minutes
    Travel Advisory #15

    PHL Time 25 February 2020

    Philippine Airlines always places the highest priority in protecting the health and safety of our passengers and crew, in compliance with strict international public health standards.

    We wish to share with you some of the various preventive and precautionary measures that PAL is undertaking to promote safe travel, in the light of the COVID-19 situation:

    1. Thorough cleaning of aircraft - We ensure an intensive cleaning process for our aircraft after every flight, including the use of stronger cleaning agents to wipe and clean cabin surfaces such as tray tables, windows and inflight entertainment screens. In the event that we use an aircraft to fly to an identified higher-risk area (e.g., the occasional repatriation flights to mainland China), we employ an even more rigorous cleaning process to ensure that the assigned aircraft is thoroughly disinfected after returning to home base.

    2. Refreshing and filtering of cabin air - All our aircraft are equipped with special HEPA (High Efficiency Particulate Air) filters and air circulation systems that constantly refresh the air on board and have been proven to protectively filter and protect against most coronaviruses. As a result, the cabin air environment is considered safer than other public spaces with no special filtration systems.

    3. Screening and thermal scanning of passengers – We actively coordinate with health authorities at the airports we fly in the implementation of pre-departure screening procedures, as well as in the thermal scanning of passengers to screen out those who exhibit symptoms of illness. We have temporarily suspended the issuance of digital boarding passes, so that passengers who check in online receive only confirmation documents and will thus need to secure the final boarding passes at the check-in counters where they may be subjected to further precautionary health screening.

    4. Precautions while inflight – Our cabin crew members are authorized to wear face masks on board as added protection. We also provide face masks to passengers upon request. (Please note that supplies of face masks are limited, and we recommend that our passengers bring their own supply if they wish to wear masks on board.) We are also taking other precautionary steps, including the removal of inflight reading material and changes in inflight service on certain flights. Our crew is also trained and equipped with protocols to handle cases of unwell passengers.

    5. Continued information campaign at the airports and on board our flights – We continue to circulate information and advice to promote sensible safety practices for our travelers.

    6. Cancellation of flights to areas covered by health travel restrictions – We have cancelled all our flights to mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau, in compliance with strict travel restrictions impose by the Philippine Government.

    7. Coordinated health reporting system – We cooperate fully with a robust system of reporting any medical concerns, including the distribution of health locator forms onboard our flights, in collaboration with concerned health authorities and the Philippine Bureau of Quarantine.
    In all cases, we take active guidance from the government authorities and international health experts to ensure that our prevention and mitigation measures are effective.

    Rest assured that our top priority is always your safety.

    Thank you."

    PAL’S HEALTH AND SAFETY MEASURES | Facebook

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    #2414
    Quote Originally Posted by misseksaherada View Post
    Di ko na alam paniniwalaan ko.. Tama ba ang mga ito about sa NCOV?
    1) mahahawa ka if na expose/contact sa laway or any human by-products
    2) mahina immune system
    3) nabubuhay daw ang virus sa mga objects na na expose/contact sa human by-products for several days (e.g. 7 days or more)..
    4) the only way to survive is trust your immune system to fight back the virus. Better not to take meds in case ma hospital with the flu? Like Dengue, drink water is one para di madehydrate at para ma-excrete ang virus?
    5) surgical/N95 masks won't help. It will just minimize the possibility of contact.

    Feel free po to correct and add..
    Based kasi sa experience ko sa airports I don't see the gravity of the situation.. Konti lang nagma-masks (not all, majority no masks).. Then sa Japan and Philippine airports I still see airport employees not wearing masks. Sa Philippines lang ako nakakita nung camera+monitor to check temperature but I don't know if effective sya to capture anyone with flu.

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    There's still a lot even experts don't know about this virus, so we're mostly left off to our own instincts and what we believe in or not regarding this situation, ma'am. Like the masks, some are saying it will help, while others debunk it altogehter. Sometimes it all comes down to one's personal choice. Some people are still even saying this is just like the flu -- no biggie.

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    #2415
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    The lower the numbers of infection, the earlier their factories can start production again. China is risking new "spreads' because all they think about is the money. Money money money. Economy first before the people. People are expendable. Economy is not. That's how the system works, and not just for China. Just look at Trump's pronouncements vs USA health officials' pronouncements.
    China communist party #1 priority is preservation of power

    #1 fear is mass uprising gov't overthrow

    they need to restart the economy (put people to work) otherwise their economy will implode and people will go to the streets

    they can't have a billion hungry & angry people protesting

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    First case outside of China...

    Woman treated for coronavirus again tests positive | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

    Officials of Osaka Prefecture, western Japan, say a woman in her 40s, who had been treated for symptoms of the new coronavirus and left hospital early this month, has again tested positive.

    The woman is a tour guide living in the city of Osaka.
    She was on a bus carrying tourists from Wuhan, China, in mid-January, and tested positive on January 29.

    The woman was discharged from a local medical institution on February 1, and was confirmed as virus-free on February 6.

    But on February 19, she felt throat and chest pain. After several visits to the doctor, she was tested a week later and tested positive again.
    Last edited by Monseratto; February 27th, 2020 at 01:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misseksaherada View Post
    Di ko na alam paniniwalaan ko.. Tama ba ang mga ito about sa NCOV?
    1) mahahawa ka if na expose/contact sa laway or any human by-products
    2) mahina immune system
    3) nabubuhay daw ang virus sa mga objects na na expose/contact sa human by-products for several days (e.g. 7 days or more)..
    4) the only way to survive is trust your immune system to fight back the virus. Better not to take meds in case ma hospital with the flu? Like Dengue, drink water is one para di madehydrate at para ma-excrete ang virus?
    5) surgical/N95 masks won't help. It will just minimize the possibility of contact.

    Feel free po to correct and add..
    Based kasi sa experience ko sa airports I don't see the gravity of the situation.. Konti lang nagma-masks (not all, majority no masks).. Then sa Japan and Philippine airports I still see airport employees not wearing masks. Sa Philippines lang ako nakakita nung camera+monitor to check temperature but I don't know if effective sya to capture anyone with flu.

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    It is confusing, with all the different opinions. Dinadalasan ko nalang pag hugas ng kamay, the way surgeons do. I carry a tiny bottle of rubbing alcohol in my pocket. And all my cars have ionizers, which, according to studies. Inactivates viruses. And hope what I'm doing is enough.

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    Yun mga personal air purifier kaya? Effective? Yun sinusuot


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    Quote Originally Posted by misseksaherada View Post
    Di ko na alam paniniwalaan ko.. Tama ba ang mga ito about sa NCOV?
    1) mahahawa ka if na expose/contact sa laway or any human by-products
    2) mahina immune system
    3) nabubuhay daw ang virus sa mga objects na na expose/contact sa human by-products for several days (e.g. 7 days or more)..
    4) the only way to survive is trust your immune system to fight back the virus. Better not to take meds in case ma hospital with the flu? Like Dengue, drink water is one para di madehydrate at para ma-excrete ang virus?
    5) surgical/N95 masks won't help. It will just minimize the possibility of contact.

    Feel free po to correct and add..
    Based kasi sa experience ko sa airports I don't see the gravity of the situation.. Konti lang nagma-masks (not all, majority no masks).. Then sa Japan and Philippine airports I still see airport employees not wearing masks. Sa Philippines lang ako nakakita nung camera+monitor to check temperature but I don't know if effective sya to capture anyone with flu.

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    just think of this virus like cold and flu viruses

    kung paano ka mag iwas magka sipon at trangkaso ganyan din gawin mo

    after all, the common cold is also caused by other coronaviruses

    mas matapang nga lang ito

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Yun mga personal air purifier kaya? Effective? Yun sinusuot


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    Mukhang hindi.

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