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    #22001
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    PH variant is a branch off from B.1.1.28 lineage but different from Brazil P.1 and P.2

    kaya P.3

    has N501Y, E484K, P681H mutations

    kumbaga sa music album greatest hits album itong PH variant

    lahat ng worrisome mutations meron

    all-in-one variant
    Ang naiisip ko nga yung virus talaga ay expected talaga magmu-mutate.. Nagkataon lang na yung variant nag match sa mutations din sa iba't ibang bansa.. Napanood ko kasi sa news na sa isang household ibat-ibang variant yung virus na kumapit sa kanila.. inisip ko nung mahawa yung isa possible na nag mutate yung virus bago nya mahawa yung isa pa..
    bakit kasi ginawang country based yung variant.. Hehehehe paano kung may sumulpot na bagong mutation same country.. "UK Variant Version 2.0"?

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    #22002
    Ang naiisip ko nga yung virus talaga ay expected talaga magmu-mutate.. Nagkataon lang na yung variant nag match sa mutations din sa iba't ibang bansa
    tawag diyan convergent evolution


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    #22003
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    tawag diyan convergent evolution

    Thank you Sir Uls for reposting the info.. di na ako nakakapag backread dito sa topic na ito.. Laging ang haba na kapag ma check ko.. May natutunan na naman ako..

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    #22004
    pero misseksaherada....

    huwag ka basta maniniwala sakin... wala ako "medical degree" and "fellowship in comparable University for molecular biology"


    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    I'll wait for your medical degree and your fellowship in a comparable University for molecular biology. Until then, I will listen to Dr. Salvana instead.

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    #22005
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pero misseksaherada....

    huwag ka basta maniniwala sakin... wala ako "medical degree" and "fellowship in comparable University for molecular biology"
    Hahahahahaha [emoji23] uu at the end of the day nasa tao na lang talaga yan.. Kung ano or sino paniniwalaan.. pero yung idea lang nung exact term laking bagay na nun para I can do my own research..

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    #22006
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pero misseksaherada....

    huwag ka basta maniniwala sakin... wala ako "medical degree" and "fellowship in comparable University for molecular biology"
    you mention Dr. Leachon from him " believe but verify"

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    #22007
    Parang sa pinas with the UK variant..but with no mass vaccination and hospitals are being overwhelmed...

    In much of the continent, the spread of the more-aggressive variant first detected in the U.K. is behind the worsening of the pandemic, undoing strenuous efforts to rein in the virus since the fall with an array of restrictions that have brought the bloc’s economic recovery to a standstill.

    Governments and public-health experts say only a combination of accelerated vaccinations and gradual reopening can defeat Covid-19’s latest rebound. But the EU’s efforts continue to suffer from its slowness in procuring and approving vaccines, production delays at vaccine makers, and bureaucratic holdups in injecting available doses.

    So far, there is nothing like the acute hospital crisis that overwhelmed healthcare systems in parts of Italy and Spain a year ago. Instead, the bloc’s public-health crisis has become chronic, with authorities struggling constantly to tamp down the flames.
    Europe Confronts a Covid-19 Rebound as Vaccine Hopes Recede - WSJ

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    personally,
    i find it difficult, determining whether it is the new, improved version of the virus, or whether it is the humens' loosened behavior vis a vis safety protocols, as the deciding factor to explain the seeming resurgence. maybe a combination of both.
    politically, it is more correct to blame the virus.
    heh heh.

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    #22010
    Japan's take on the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS country's baksin diplomacy: Olympic host Japan will not take part in China vaccine offer

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Japan's take on the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS country's baksin diplomacy: Olympic host Japan will not take part in China vaccine offer
    Because the chinese vaccines have not yet been approved for use in Japan. Pfizer palang ang approved vaccine dun.

    The china vaccines were offered to the IOC itself, so countries that already have agreements with China or have already approved the china vax can take part in this offer.
    Last edited by boybi; March 13th, 2021 at 10:51 AM.
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    #22012
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    How is this possible i mean prior to travel you need to submit negative rtpcr test result how can a ph variant go to japan undetected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    How is this possible i mean prior to travel you need to submit negative rtpcr test result how can a ph variant go to japan undetected?

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    Because it will take 3-5 days before the virus in your body will be detected by RT-PCR test.
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    #22014
    Naka reserve na ako rin boybi dito saka probinsiya sa chambers ng sinovac. Mukhang tama ka yun mga ayaw ng mga employees ngayon gusto na so mukhang walang sobra.


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    #22015
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    yep that's what i've been saying

    PH variant came from the B.1.1.28 lineage

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    #22016
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Naka reserve na ako rin boybi dito saka probinsiya sa chambers ng sinovac. Mukhang tama ka yun mga ayaw ng mga employees ngayon gusto na so mukhang walang sobra.


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    Nagpa sobra ako ng reservation. Alam ko sigurado magbabago isip nila once makita nila madami nagpapa vax ng sinovac. Kung may sosobra pa din, donate ko nalang sa ibang may gusto.

    Kwento din ng isang hospital director dito, at first nasa 4 lang nag sign-up for sinovax sa mga staff nila. Now almost 200 na daw.
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    #22017
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yes doc my point is people here don't believe it's the new variants causing the surge

    they (and the gov't) are attributing it to people's relaxed behavior

    but if it's behavior, i don't notice much change in behavior since Jan
    December holidays tingin ko talaga start nitong surge. Doon maraming lakad at social interactions eh. Carried over sa January celebrations of course kaya ito na tayo ngayon.

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    #22018
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    personally,
    i find it difficult, determining whether it is the new, improved version of the virus, or whether it is the humens' loosened behavior vis a vis safety protocols, as the deciding factor to explain the seeming resurgence. maybe a combination of both.
    politically, it is more correct to blame the virus.
    heh heh.
    Combination na rin talaga yan imho. Started Dec 2020 pa yan when the gov't relaxed curfew and allowed (nonchalantly) those minors to freely roam our streets na to revive the economy somehow.

    Kaya nasanay na tayo Jan/Feb na maraming tao sa sa labas at wala nang naninita na mga covid marshalls na parang naging pakitang-tao lang din. Relax na talaga eh.

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    #22019
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Combination na rin talaga yan imho. Started Dec 2020 pa yan when the gov't relaxed curfew and allowed (nonchalantly) those minors to freely roam our streets na to revive the economy somehow.

    Kaya nasanay na tayo Jan/Feb na maraming tao sa sa labas at wala nang naninita na mga covid marshalls na parang naging pakitang-tao lang din. Relax na talaga eh.

    it takes around a week from initial infection to showing symptoms... then (for vulnerable ones) sa 2nd week medyo serious na need na ma-ospital

    so if people were already being infected in Dec 2020 we should have seen an increase in hospitalizations in January palang

    pero kahit after pista ng nazareno wala pa reported increase in hospitalizations

    itong March lang
    Last edited by uls; March 13th, 2021 at 12:06 PM.

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    #22020
    DoLE Labor Advisory on the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS vaccination in the workplace: Labor Advisory No. 3-21 Guidelines on the Administration of COVID-19 Vaccines in the Workplaces | Department of Labor and Employment

    Para sa mga employers / employees dito.

China Corona Virus Outbreak