China Corona Virus Outbreak

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Even the preferred mRNA vaccines are less effective in S. A. variant.

A new lab study shows troubling signs that Pfizer's and Moderna's COVID-19 shots could be far less effective against the variant first found in South Africa

[dr. d]

Safe ba mag walk ng dog kung marami ng cases sa area?

if the nearest source of the virus is at least xx meters away from your walk,
and you are appropriately dressed naman,
and there is no one within many meters away from you...
do it in broad daylight.

personally, however, if i had a choice, i wouldn't tempt fate.

but how do we know "there are many cases in the area" ?
normally kasi, these things are kept secret by the afflicted from the afflictable..

[ale828]

Wala naman other people on the road since I walk her when it's still sunny hehe. My problem is I am scared kasi the viurs stays on the air for hours? I do wear a surgical mask though

Sunlight and UV rays kills the virus whether its the UK variant or the south african strain or the original china strain. Plus the wind outside dissipates the virus particles.Try to walk tangahaling tapat para mas malakas sikat ng araw. don't forget to put sunblock lang. hehe

[dr. d]

Even the preferred mRNA vaccines are less effective in S. A. variant.

A new lab study shows troubling signs that Pfizer's and Moderna's COVID-19 shots could be far less effective against the variant first found in South Africa

sabi ng pilosopo kong cow-league,
"magpabakuna na kayo ngayon. who knows, it might just save your life against the classic variant, so's you can worry about the S.A. variant later on."
i agree.

[Flipo]

Even the preferred mRNA vaccines are less effective in S. A. variant.

A new lab study shows troubling signs that Pfizer's and Moderna's COVID-19 shots could be far less effective against the variant first found in South Africa

In previously published studies, Pfizer had found that its vaccine neutralized other more contagious variants first identified in the United Kingdom and South Africa, although the South African variant may reduce protective antibodies elicited by the vaccine.


Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine neutralizes Brazil variant in lab study | Reuters

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Yun sinovac ba effective sa lahat ng mutations?

Baka wala nanaman may alam dahil walang study, walang data. Basta maniwala na lang tayo kung ano sabihin nila.

In sinovac we trust!


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Philippines, Novavax to sign deal for 3 million COVID-19 shots mid-week: Palace | ABS-CBN News

Yan dami na options! Pag dumating na talaga lahat ng ibang vaccines, sana sinovac pa rin piliin ng mga DDS,


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[uls]

as far as i'm concerned i never said sinovac's vaccine was very good

it cannot compete with mRNA vaccines

it's not even as effective as adenoviral vector vaccines (Astra, J&J)

but at least introducing your immune system to inactivated SARSCOV2 makes your body better prepared to fight when you meet the live virus

kaysa first encounter live virus agad

i mean habang wala pa ung preferred vaccine mo

tulad ngayon kumakalat uli ang virus

asan ung pfizer and moderna niyo?

[dr. d]

Philippines, Novavax to sign deal for 3? million COVID-19 shots mid-week: Palace | ABS-CBN News

Yan dami na options! Pag dumating na talaga lahat ng ibang vaccines, sana sinovac pa rin piliin ng mga DDS,


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baka pag dating en force ang SA, UK, and Brazil variants, yung mga sinino-vac lang ang matirang buhay...
heh heh.

[uls]

by the end of March i think naka 2 dose na mga nag sinovac

so at least they are better protected already than those who got ZERO vaccine

that's not to say they'll be walking around without protection

syempre 1st line defense parin PPE

pero kung may virus nakalusot, meron sila 2nd line defense -- antibodies generated by the vaccine

[shadow]

as far as i'm concerned i never said sinovac's vaccine was very good

it cannot compete with mRNA vaccines

it's not even as effective as adenoviral vector vaccines (Astra, J&J)

but at least introducing your immune system to inactivated SARSCOV2 makes your body better prepared to fight when you meet the live virus

kaysa first encounter live virus agad

i mean habang wala pa ung preferred vaccine mo

tulad ngayon kumakalat uli ang virus

asan ung pfizer and moderna niyo?

Wala din ako issue sa sinovac, Any vaccines that's available and kahit 50% lang effect niya is better than nothing.

Issue ko is bakit ibang pharma nilabas nila data nila and transparent sila bakit itong sinovac eh napaka secretive? Ano ba talagang meron sa data na yan?

Let the experts review yun data then if ok.naman then wala.ng issue whether it's made by China.

In fact nag sign up na ako sa 3 MM cities kung sino maganda implementation ng vaccine roll out doon ako papabakuna.

Meron question doon kung ano preferred brand and lagi ko sagot either of the above then meron why sagot ko some protection is better than nothing.


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[dr. d]

syempre 1st line defense parin PPE

pero kung may virus nakalusot, meron sila 2nd line defense -- antibodies generated by the vaccine

PPE is last line of defense. it is also the least effective.
the earlier line of defense, and also more effective than PPE, is avoiding the virus source and/or its vectors/carriers.

[shadow]

baka pag dating en force ang SA, UK, and Brazil variants, yung mga sinino-vac lang ang matirang buhay...
heh heh.

Mabuti para sila na lang ang sa mabuhay sa God forsaken na Pilipinas at mag tiis sa walang kwentang dutiti admin


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[uls]

so kung HCW ka and di ka nagpaturok ng sinovac for whatever reason...

now the hospital you're working at is seeing a surge of covid patients

di ko alam ano iniisip mo

are you thinking "i wish i got the vaccine like my coworkers did"?

i dunno

"ok lang... i'll wait for pfizer"

[dr. d]

so kung HCW ka and di ka nagpaturok ng sinovac for whatever reason...

now the hospital you're working at is seeing a surge of covid patients

di ko alam ano iniisip mo

are you thinking "i wish i got the vaccine like my coworkers did"?

i dunno

"ok lang... i'll wait for pfizer"

"the warnings always come last." - wong.

[tarzegetakizerd]

"the warnings always come last." - wong.

is that a dr strange reference?

[uls]

PPE is last line of defense. it is also the least effective.
the earlier line of defense, and also more effective than PPE, is avoiding the virus source and/or its vectors/carriers.

yes doc

pero HCWs cannot avoid

[dr. d]

is that a dr strange reference?

i knew there was a fan out there!

[jigeloh]

If available moderna at pfizer, syempre yun pipiliin ko. Pero kelan pa darating? Hanggang order nalang.

Nagpajnject na ako ng sinovac. At least may proteksyon kesa wala. Lahat naman vaccine protects you from severe covid.

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[shadow]

so kung HCW ka and di ka nagpaturok ng sinovac for whatever reason...

now the hospital you're working at is seeing a surge of covid patients

di ko alam ano iniisip mo

are you thinking "i wish i got the vaccine like my coworkers did"?

i dunno

"ok lang... i'll wait for pfizer"

Siyempre na factor-in na nila yun risk and if the HCW ang mismong nasa front and center in the fight against covid, I'll never question their choice.

Kung meron na kasing data yun FDA like sabi ni dr. d sila na lang maglabas nun data. Sabi nila napag-aralan daw nila yun published and unpublished data kuno ng sinovac.

Para hinde na matakot mga HCW sa sinovac.

Hinde naman kasing obvious na pressure yun domingo ng FDA sa malacanang kaya agad na approved EAU ng sinovac.

Pinakamabilis dapat para hinde natakot mga tao sa sinovac eh si dutiti, Bong Go, saka lahat ng senior cabinet secs naunang nagpa saksak. Eh kaso olats eh. Ano ba dahilan ni Bong Go?


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