China Corona Virus Outbreak

[uls]

i can already imagine conversations at parties here months from now...


"hi! how are you? What vaccine did you take?"

"hi! i got Astrazeneca"

"that's good... from your company right?"

"yeah... how about you?"

"i got Pfizer"

"oh wow how'd you get it? i heard quantities are very limited"

"well...

[111prez]

You can't speak for my relatives. These are doctors na basta brand lang ang basis?!? HCW nga sa PGH ayaw ng sinovac e so they're not alone in this.

You're beginning to sound like another member here na mas magaling pa sa doctor at tingin sa lahat ng tao pasosy. Tapos ayaw tanggapin na hindi lahat ng tao pareho ang gusto sa kanya. I rest my case.

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Hahahaha, you took the words right out of my mouth. Res (or should I say hominis) ipsa loquitor yan.

Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS sa buhay natin.

[ale828]

Its all politically motivated.
hatred for this administration has clouded peoples judgment.
they can't seem to see the overall picture.
Basta endorsed ni du30 and galing china masama yan.

which is why i am disappointed with the opposition.
when its time to help each other to heal this country all they do is bash those in power seat even if what they are doing is for the benefit of the country.

It makes me wonder what would happen if any of the major opposition personality would suddenly make an about face and start endorsing the China vaccine?
What is the VP Robredo's stance on this?

[uls]

Hahahaha, you took the words right out of my mouth. Res (or should I say hominis) ipsa loquitor yan.

Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS sa buhay natin.

haha parang bata nakahanap ng kakampi

children's playground pala ito thread

grow up

haha

[uls]

i'm probably one of 2 or 3 people here that prevents this thread from becoming an echo chamber

is that a bad thing?

i'm sure there are people who would love to see me banned

[Ry_Tower]

Cabinet officials to get Sinovac jabs to boost public confidence, senator says | Philstar.com

Dapat naman talaga manggaling sa admin ang initiative for the people to trust sinovac. Sila nasa puwesto eh, i-reverse nila effect ng politicking nila ng dengvaxia.

[Ry_Tower]

Its all politically motivated.
hatred for this administration has clouded peoples judgment.
they can't seem to see the overall picture.
Basta endorsed ni du30 and galing china masama yan.

which is why i am disappointed with the opposition.
when its time to help each other to heal this country all they do is bash those in power seat even if what they are doing is for the benefit of the country.

It makes me wonder what would happen if any of the major opposition personality would suddenly make an about face and start endorsing the China vaccine?
What is the VP Robredo's stance on this?

Teka siya nanalo sa eleksyon diba. Si Sara number 1 sa last presidential survey. Papano mo masasabi na politically motivated.

Sinovac got a bad rap not just because it's made by China, it's primarilly because from the very beginning (again beginning of the manufacturing or creation of vaccine, wala pa mass vaccination programs from other countries ha) nakakapagduda na data nila. The add up the shockingly overpriced acquisition cost(add mo pa isssue nasmuggled and early trial bakuna kuno ng PSG, President na ayaw magpaturok, delayed processing or orders etc.), eh sino ba naman tanga bibili ng product na same price pero magkaiba efficacy (at least on reliable data)? Gov't dapat ang mag-isip para sa kapakanan ng taumbayan, last year pa lang may build-up na ng resentment sa vaccine not just because China-made, yun ang totoo. Eh ano ginawa ng gov't, puro lang assurances without result. Biruin mo ngayon lang naisip na magpaturok cbainet members in public to alleviate filipinos concern. Too late the hero if you ask me, and you have to blame the admin for this ****-up and backlash. Mali ba?

"PGH previously said a survey of hospital personnel found a 94-percent willingness to be vacicnated, but they said that they were under the impression that the vaccine to be given went through the "proper evaluation process" by all three bodies — the FDA, HTAC and NITAG." - alin ang western bias dyan?

Mga tao dito sa tsikot may kakayahan maghintay at bumili ng as mahal na vaccine, ano aasahan niyo dito sa board. Pucha, sasakyan nga ilan nabiili, vaccine pa. Hindi pagiging choosy if you can afford it. That's your right and it's not illegal as well. Ano problema dun?

[Ry_Tower]

I got this last year. Ayaw ko sa diskarte ng China when it comes to their treatment of the country. Pero tinapon ko ba ito? Hindi ah, libre eh, tsaka wala pa vaccine, mabuti na may back-up plan kung magkaroon. At gagamitin mo lang naman if magkaroon ka ng covid19 at symptomatic ka.

Western bias pa rin ba ganung diskarte?

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[uls]

Teka siya nanalo sa eleksyon diba. Si Sara number 1 sa last presidential survey. Papano mo masasabi na politically motivated.

politically motivated ung pagbabatikos sa china vaccine

yan ang ibig niya sabihin

dahil galit mga tao sa gobyerno galit sa china galit sa gobyerno-loves-china

[uls]

I got this last year. Ayaw ko sa diskarte ng China when it comes to their treatment of the country. Pero tinapon ko ba ito? Hindi ah, libre eh, tsaka wala pa vaccine, mabuti na may back-up plan kung magkaroon. At gagamitin mo lang naman if magkaroon ka ng covid19 at symptomatic ka.

Western bias pa rin ba ganung diskarte?

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di mo ba nababasa mga posts ng ibang members that they will not take (internally) anything made in china

food, drinks, meds

ok lang daw mga gamit wag lang isusubo

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your willingness to take lianhua in case you get covid...

i don't think other members have the same willingness as you Sir

[Ry_Tower]

politically motivated ung pagbabatikos sa china vaccine

yan ang ibig niya sabihin

dahil galit mga tao sa gobyerno galit sa china galit sa gobyerno-loves-china

Normal sa opposition na sakyan ang isyu. expected yun kasi ng palpak eh. Kung maayos ba trbaho kahit siraan mo may mangyayari? Wala naman diba. Bida pa rin sila in the end, lame move ang policticking if tama ginagawa at may results.

RE: "dahil galit mga tao sa gobyerno galit sa china galit sa gobyerno-loves-china"
Eh sino ba nanalo nga? Sino ba mabango pangalan na susunod na president? Eh hindi ba sa admin pa din. So sila pa din bida. Hindi mo pwede sabihin na in general galit tao sa gobyerno kasi gov't loves Chian because the surveys says otherwise. Labs na labs pa nga ng mga DDS eh. Biruin mo #1 pa sa survey si Sara D-C.

Anyway, some good news. Sana.
Local firm eyes first COVID-19 vaccine plant in Philippines | Philstar.com

Makapag-lunch nga muna at baka mawalan lang ako gana.

[Ry_Tower]

di mo ba nababasa mga posts ng ibang members that they will not take (internally) anything made in china

food, drinks, meds

ok lang daw mga gamit wag lang isusubo

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your willingness to take lianhua in case you get covid...

i don't think other members have the same willingness as you Sir

Then don't generalize. Posts mo kasi puro generalization. Pinoys hate sinovac not just because of it's made in China, this admin made so many wrong moves that public sentiments eroded trust even for the vaccine. Tsikot is but a grain in the ocean. And people here have the right and the capacity to be choosy. Uulitin ko, hindi naman illegal, immoral or unethical diba.

[uls]

RE: "dahil galit mga tao sa gobyerno galit sa china galit sa gobyerno-loves-china"
Eh sino ba nanalo nga? Sino ba mabango pangalan na susunod na president? Eh hindi ba sa admin pa din. So sila pa din bida. Hindi mo pwede sabihin na in general galit tao sa gobyerno kasi gov't loves Chian because the surveys says otherwise. Labs na labs pa nga ng mga DDS eh. Biruin mo #1 pa sa survey si Sara D-C.

well i guess coz ung batikos is all over socmed and mainstream media so it may seem madami bumabatikos

a larger number of people may not care about the issues we don't hear anything from them

[111prez]

haha parang bata nakahanap ng kakampi

children's playground pala ito thread

grow up

haha

Can the personal attacks. You should be the one to grow up

OT: Pasensya ulit mga mods dito at alam mo na

[uls]

re my western centric comment

Yes i stand by that generalization

Filipinos are western centric... America-centric

pag dating sa favorable view towards the US, few countries beat PH






pinoys love uncle sam

kaya dami galit kay du30 sa pag kontra sa US / paglapit sa china

anything American is good

anything China is bad

hindi kathang isip ang generalization ko

it's palpable

it's observable

[111prez]

On the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS story: China’s truthtellers: The people who shared details of the Covid-19 pandemic that Beijing left out

Friends at the AIIB and Philippine Embassy in Beijing say that VPN is necessary and essential but very slow. They also use Yahoo emails because Google, or any Google related account/app, is banned.

[ale828]

We all know the government failed big time in getting the vaccine.
No one is arguing against that. they failed to get a western vaccine because they were waiting for their buddy buddy china to provide us with one.
if the Opposition starts to endorse the use of Sinovac then it isn't a political issue anymore.
Not sure if anyone in the opposition is endorsing the Sinovac vaccine. that is why i am asking the question.

So the philippines is better off without the Sinovac vaccine?
Won't that vaccine help pinoys not get hospitalized when they get infected with Covid?
Won't we achieve Herd immunity faster with the Sinovac vaccine?
Won't that be better for our country?

if the Du30 gov't was pushing for Gamelya/Sputnik V or maybe the Indian Vaccine Covaxin i am guessing there would still be a big backlash against it.
maybe a lot less considering its not china made.

What if the Du30 gov't was pushing for SinoPharm instead? its efficiency is greater than those of both astrzeneca and J&J.

[shadow]

We all know the government failed big time in getting the vaccine.
No one is arguing against that. they failed to get a western vaccine because they were waiting for their buddy buddy china to provide us with one.
if the Opposition starts to endorse the use of Sinovac then it isn't a political issue anymore.
Not sure if anyone in the opposition is endorsing the Sinovac vaccine. that is why i am asking the question.

So the philippines is better off without the Sinovac vaccine?
Won't that vaccine help pinoys not get hospitalized when they get infected with Covid?
Won't we achieve Herd immunity faster with the Sinovac vaccine?
Won't that be better for our country?

if the Du30 gov't was pushing for Gamelya/Sputnik V or maybe the Indian Vaccine Covaxin i am guessing there would still be a big backlash against it.
maybe a lot less considering its not china made.

What if the Du30 gov't was pushing for SinoPharm instead? its efficiency is greater than those of both astrzeneca and J&J.

Why do you keep on insisting the narrative na opposition is playing politics.

Bakit opposition mag endorse? Ang taas taas ng approval ratings ni dutiti diba, isang sabi lang niya dapat sumunod na lahat.

They need volunteers from their ranks or siya mauna

Hinde pa ba malinaw sayo bakit ayaw sa sinovac? Ilabas na nila yun data ng trials para matapos na ito.

What's so special about sinovac? Bakit sila pwede isaksak na sa mga Pilipino kahit walang complete date sa trials, bakit ibang vaccines hinde pwede ang tagal tagal i-review and dapat complete papers para gumalaw application sa FDA?


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[ray_noel]

Late na nga govt kumilos, late pa dumating ang vaccine, ayaw pa ng pinas sa sinovac or any vac ng china and dapat efficacy is 95%... tapos ang availsble is sinovac at astra....

Inang Bayan.... pano na toh...


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[Monseratto]

600,000 doses of Sinovac’s Covid-19 vaccine, which were donated by China, are set to arrive in the Philippines this afternoon. | Christia Ramos, INQUIRER.net